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    Let me reupload! Sorry for the inconvenience
    1 - Skipper 1.jpg
    Is this a lesser dart? Pothantus Omaha

    2 - Skipper 3.jpg
    Detached dart?

    3-Skipper 4.jpg
    Contigious swift?

    4 - Skipper 5.jpg
    I suppose this is small branded swift, pelopidus mathias?

    -This skipper is very big in size, about one and a half section of a thumb
    5-Skipper 6.jpg
    I thought this is a conjoined swift but i am not sure

    6 - Skipper 7.jpg
    Also not sure about this fella

    Appreciate all the help i can get!

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    Post 22.

    1. Potanthus omaha.male.
    Veins all darken, dull colour.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...838/large.jpeg

    Unusually the abdominal end appear to have a black band, but it will not match any of the black-banded species.
    P. mingo, P. trachala, & P. serina.
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f3wB2A2ujB...0/_MG_1531.jpg
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kvlAhJLLsd...la-tytleri.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...ult_male_c.jpg

    2. Potanthus trachala.
    FW spots well separated; HW band upper spot projected out; heavy black spots.


    3. Caltoris cormasa male.
    Typical spots.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HYiGh0gEIE...0/DSC_0126.JPG


    4.Pelopidas mathias male.

    P. mathias dirty ,grey shaded.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NQjrfm7_w...enedict_01.jpg

    P. agna; clean brownish.
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Hw681ALm5F...ded+Swift+.jpg


    5. Pelopidas conjunctus female.
    Large; FW spots yellowish; HW spots whitish.
    Females.
    https://www.jamiun.com/wp-content/up...rksmallWEB.jpg
    https://www.thaibutterflies.com/wp-c...s-1080x675.jpg


    6. Taractrocera archias.male.
    Antennal club rounded; HW band joined by a combined spots 6 & 7.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Vy41EYp6Y...sDart-KSK2.jpg


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    Thank you Doctor Seow!

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    Hi doctor Seow,

    Another skipper trend as again! Here are some shot at upper seletar today

    1 - skipper 1.jpg
    i believe this is a Taractrocera archias?

    2 - skipper 2.jpg
    Also another Taractrocera archias?

    3 - skipper 3.jpg
    Telicota species?

    4 - skipper 4.jpgskipper 4.jpg
    A open wing shot, is it possible to ID?

    5 - skipper 5.jpg
    Another telicota species?

    Thanks in advance!

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    1 & 2 Taractroceras archias. males.
    Note rounded antennal clubs & HW band.

    3. Female Telicota besta.
    HW veins across band darken; dull colour.
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OEM0FaXJU..._female_01.jpg

    4. Female Potanthus omaha.
    Veins are strongly dark; dull ochreous.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...231/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...433/large.jpeg

    Compare P. ganda females; veins are not or barely darken.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...083/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...069/large.jpeg


    5. Female Potanthus serina.
    Note HW large spot 7 (Telicota have no HW spot 7.)

    P. serina; Veins not darken; FW spot 5 smaller than spot 4; Abdominal end with black band. Correction: P. mingo.
    Females.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9410/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...4101/large.jpg



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    Last edited by Psyche; 07-Aug-2022 at 08:19 AM.

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    Hi Doctor Seow,

    A quick follow up on skipper 5, the Potanthus serina. I didnt expect the Potanthus serina to be this small, for a size comparision, the flower it is feeding on in the picture is a single flower of a leea indica. Are their size variable? Was expecting it to be much bigger for it to be name the large dart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zicky View Post
    Hi Doctor Seow,

    A quick follow up on skipper 5, the Potanthus serina. I didnt expect the Potanthus serina to be this small, for a size comparision, the flower it is feeding on in the picture is a single flower of a leea indica. Are their size variable? Was expecting it to be much bigger for it to be name the large dart.

    Regards
    Zick
    It is possible for an individual to be larger or smaller than the norm for the species.

    For this individual, the shape suggest a small species.

    There is a prominent black band at the abdominal end.
    There are 3 full subapical spots.
    FW spot 5 is smaller than spot 4.

    Only 4 species in Singapore have a black banded abdominal end.

    1. Potanthus trachala. FW 14 - 15 mm.
    FW spots widely separated ,spiky.
    Male & female.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kvlAhJLLsd...la-tytleri.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._female_01.jpg


    2. Potanthus serina. FW 16 -17 mm.
    FW with spot 5 smaller than spot 4.
    Male & female.
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8lpB_kJwF0...tanthus-sp.jpg
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rzo8wjfyC...t_female_c.jpg


    3. Potanthus juno. FW 13 -14 mm.
    FW spot 5 smaller than spot 4.
    FW subapical spots only two, ie spot 6 & 7, spot 8 absent or vestigial.
    Female.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WroJpPq0U...Dart-KohCH.jpg


    4. Potanthus mingo. FW 12- 13 mm.
    FW with 3 subapical spots.
    FW spot 4 & 5 about equal.
    Female on the left.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tFtROXZYi...us%2Bmingo.JPG


    It is probably Potanthus mingo female.

    I suggest for Potanthus, show at least two images as small details matter.



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