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    Dear Doctor Seow

    some ID i require confirmation!

    1 - Caltoris Cormasa
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/134144464
    caltoris 1.1.jpgcaltoris 1.2.jpg

    2 - Pontanthus serina?
    inat - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/134144482
    potanthus1.1.jpgpotanthus1.2.jpg

    Regards!
    Skipping
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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    Post 78.
    Both are correct.

    1. Caltoris cormasa. Reddish colouration & small spots.
    2. Potanthus serina FW spot 5smaller than spot 4.



    TL Seow:Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    Post 78.
    Both are correct.

    1. Caltoris cormasa. Reddish colouration & small spots.
    2. Potanthus serina FW spot 5smaller than spot 4.



    TL Seow:Cheers.
    Thank You Doctor Seow!

    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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    Hi Doctor Seow,

    Today's outing brought me low skippers but high number of lascars, pantoporia specifically. I attach inat links once again to ensure quality and clarity.

    1 - P.sandaka? i note the submarginal grey band isnt very thick
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/134397320
    p.sandaka1.1.jpgp.sandaka1.2.jpg

    2 - P.sandaka also?
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/134398046
    p.sandaka2.1.jpgp.sandaka2.2.jpg

    3 - P.sandaka also? The wings are folded and ive only got this shot
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/134397335
    p.sandaka3.1.jpg

    4 - P.hordonia? The submarginal line is much thicker in this one compare to the above two. Inat link has more photo than the ones here, which after downsizing is somewhat blurry on computer end
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/134397329
    p.hordonia1.1.jpgp.hordonia1.2.jpg

    5 - borbo cinnara, no hindwing cellspot
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/134397353
    borbocinnara.jpg

    6 - p.lubricans? i notice yellow forewing spots but seems a bit wear and tear
    inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/134397318
    polytremis1.1.jpgpolytremis1.2.jpg

    With regards
    Zicky
    Zick Soh

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    Post 81.

    5 Borbo cinnara. Note also thick antennal club.

    6. Polytremis lubricans male .Note also rough scalings & antenna.

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    Pantoporia in Singapore.

    All five species were recorded in the past in Singapore.
    Two, P. aurelia & dindinga are likely extinct.

    P. paraka have grey -orange FW submarginal bands .

    The other two P. hordonia & sandaka have been widely confused throughout their range.
    Both have an orange FW submarginal band and a grey one inner to it.
    The FW postdiscal spot in space 2 is large with a 'foot' along the lower margin )dorsum)
    The foot is exceptionally latge & long in the male P. sandaka.
    Females of both species do not have an extended foot.
    PANTO5.PNG

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    Pantoporia hordonia hordonia.

    The status of P. hordonia is uncertain in Singapore.
    Possibly it has become extinct, its genes mixed into some population of P. sandaka.

    P. hordonia hordonia.
    FW grey submarginal band wider thanthe orange band typically 2X wider, unbroken & continuous.
    FW orange submarginal band tend to fade at the apex, particularly in the female.Often the orange band is broken or near obsolete.
    Male foot of the postdiscal band small.

    Typical males. P. Malaysia.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6TIVtGI_ok...0/DSC_0229.JPG
    https://alchetron.com/cdn/pantoporia...esize-750.jpeg
    https://a4.pbase.com/g4/25/686825/2/...1.bMw5eaEm.jpg

    Females.
    P. Malaysia.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UsULpFSI_...0/DSC_2572.JPG

    Female P. Malaysia from C&P4.
    PANTO3.PNG

    Thailand.
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0a/f2...fd389661b5.jpg
    Cambodia.
    https://www.funet.fi/pub/sci/bio/lif...rdonia-1xu.jpg
    Java.
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/media.jungl...llOUX2YXdTg%3D
    Last edited by Psyche; 12-Sep-2022 at 01:31 AM.

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