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    Post 60.

    It is definitely Baoris male, likely Baoris oceia.

    The separation of B. oceia & farri is etremely difficult.
    It is simply assumed in the past the dark ones are oceia & the lighter brown ones are farri.
    B. oceia also tend to have reduced spots but all Singaporean examples of males have reduced spots.
    these presumptions are unscientific.

    B. oceia does not occur further north in Indochina or India.
    Thus examples there can be certain to be B. farri.

    B. farri males
    India.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...ed7d39-1_0.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...f7fe2f-1_0.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...e5b64c-1_0.jpg
    Yunnan.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/itchyd...n/photostream/

    B. farri females.
    India.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...08f04e43-1.jpg
    Vietnam.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sYt6GjV-T...s%2Bfarri1.jpg

    From the observations, B. farri have the HW cilia always pale, the FW cilia may be darkish.


    Probable examples from Singapore.
    ? B. farri
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...hee%20Ming.jpg
    ? females.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-x-06hY8OE...er_Hern_01.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...2932/large.jpg

    Probable B. oceia from Singapore.
    FW cilia always darkish.
    HW cilia darkish.
    Males.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...ift---Khew.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...-Simon-Sng.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...554/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...6362/large.jpg
    ? Doubtful.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jE5CT4nr9...i_adult_03.jpg
    Females.
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zofygsdg7...oris+oceia.jpg
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0rwJjrQ_JS...oris+oceia.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9442/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...364/large.jpeg
    https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...611/large.jpeg


    It seem easier to separate the females.
    It may be all current photos of males are of B. oceia.


    TL Seow: Cheers.
    PS. It is possible there are no valid shots of B. farri, male or female from Singapore.
    Last edited by Psyche; 15-Nov-2022 at 08:32 PM.

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