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    Hi Dr. Seow,

    Could the following be Telicota augias or is it Telicota besta?

    Not sure if the veins are raised but overall shape is a little sharper (could be due to the skipper 'jumping' due to the flash), veins are not significantly dark dusted. The general appearance is pretty orange overall as well.

    Thank you!

    DSC_0231.jpg

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    Post 87.

    This is fairly consistent with a male Telicota besta.
    The HW veins across the band are lightly speckled in black.

    Admittedly the Telicota species are very difficult despite only a few species.
    Colour rendition in photos is very misleading.
    Only Telicota colon male is readily identifiable.


    Telicota augias.Generally a deeper uniform orange than others.
    Head & thoracic hairs of similar orange colour.
    HW veins not dark-dusted.
    Abdominal end orange without blackish shading.
    Male brand large straight in the black space; base of space 2orange.
    Typical males.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Hp7OPF_eJ6...as-augias).jpg
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6riT3uzrel...ias_male_1.jpg
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-y3LkExqbZs...ias_male_2.jpg
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5336/9...ff7fdc56_b.jpg
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f8o_ke_F-V...alm%2BDart.jpg
    Others.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...5337/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...685/large.jpeg
    *https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...103/large.jpeg Correction: Probably hybrid or T. besta .Have some lightly dusted veins.
    *https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...527/large.jpeg Possibly T. besta. Note strong raised veins with shadowlines; More yellow.
    Females with HW veins lightly dark across the band; band more orangey than other females.
    .https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...3715/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...788/large.jpeg


    Telicota besta is often confused with T. augias.
    Male brand is against the inner margin ,
    Head & thorax are somewhat darker than the wings.
    HW veins are lightly dark, more often raised veins with shadow lines .Abdominal end with a light darkish patch.
    Face lighter.
    Males.
    https://thamfatt.files.wordpress.com...ota-augias.jpg
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1rRXJdPYo...ed_male_01.jpg
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UaQyq4Qv0D...B_adult_01.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9479/large.jpg
    Females with dull colour & lightly darkish veins.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...1006/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...5635/large.jpg


    Telicota linna.
    Male brand narrow & in the middle of the black space; base of space 2 black.
    UnH veins across the band not dark-dusted ; ground dusky.
    Face & lower abdomen paler.
    Males.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qDEk4MIq_...TL_male_05.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...251/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...260/large.jpeg
    Females.Veins not darken.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V0JtdnjTg..._female_02.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...629/large.jpeg


    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 04-Jan-2023 at 05:23 PM.

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    Hi Dr Seow,

    Seeking your assistance to ID the follow butterflies.

    Thank you!

    1) Similar to the skipper that Zick shot, but on a different day.

    Could this be Pemara pugnans? Antennae wholly black below and looked to have course scaling?
    DSC_0885.jpg

    2) Baoris sp.?
    DSC_0175.jpg

    3) Lasippa heliodore?
    DSC_0290.jpg

    4) Pelopidas mathias?
    DSC_0098.jpg

    5) Pelopidas mathias?

    DSC_0603.jpg

    6) Telicota besta?
    DSC_0273.jpg

    7) Telicota besta as well?
    DSC_0048.jpg

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    Post 89.
    1. Permara pugnans.
    Note abial palp have a black line.

    2. Baoris probably oceia.
    Black antennal club.reduced spot.
    B. farri female is said always to have a full complement of spots
    male. Yunnan
    https://live.staticflickr.com/8293/7...d63b4cb4_b.jpg
    Female Singapore probable.
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EtcxesbOy...eclosed_01.jpg

    3. Lasippa tiga.
    Submarginal spot 3 is twice the width as spot 4 above it. (Always described in the set position)

    4 & 5 male & female P. mathias.
    UnH with sullied ground colour & dark shading.

    6. Male Telicota linna.
    Veins are marked in yellow with barely any dark scaling
    Face & underpart whitish.

    7. Male Telicota besta.
    Veins are raised & with dots of brown running along them.
    Only face whitish.


    TL Seow:Cheers.

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    Hi Dr Seow,

    Would like to check if the following skipper is Caltoris bromus?

    DSC_0448.jpgDSC_0451.jpg
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/149217007 (link here for higher res photos)

    Thank you!

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    Post 91.

    Yes. This is a fine example of a male Caltoris bromus.

    Caltoris bromus.
    Antenna with prominent pale area.
    FW subapical spots typically two.
    FW cellspot two.Very rarely the upper cellspot may be reduced or absent.
    UnH uniformly brown with ochreous overlay.
    The female is the only species here that may have HW spots in space 2 & 3.


    Examples of males in Singapore.
    https://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a...psd5aebfd1.png
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/131436413
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/38212403
    Female.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/13664032


    Caltoris cahira is similar but the UnH is uniformly dark chocolate.

    It is much rarer in Singapore.

    Male in Singapore.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/97774898

    Females Singapore.
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7l1dr3n_g...ris+bromus.jpg

    The 2nd pic here is that of Caltoris malaya.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/125617950


    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 21-Feb-2023 at 11:48 PM.

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    Hi Dr. Seow,

    Seeking your assistance to verify the IDs of the following skippers. Thank you!

    1. Could this finally be Pelopidas conjunctus?

    Almost as large as my thumb; HW cell spot present; HW spots white & FW spots appear yellow.

    Attachment 28198

    2. Baoris sp.? Maybe B. farri?

    Attachment 28199

    3. Caltoris cormasa?

    Attachment 28200

    4. Caltoris malaya?

    No pale regions on antenna, no FW cell spot and appear yellowish.

    Attachment 28201

    5. Could this be Caltoris bromus?

    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/150484243

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