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    Hi Dr Seow,

    It's been awhile, and i'm back to seek your assistance to ID and confirm the following species.


    1) Could this be Lasippa heliodore?

    DSC_5774.jpg
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/162280010


    2) I believe this is Lasippa tiga? Just that spot 3 does not really look to be twice of spot 2 and 4; though the tongue is not well defined.

    DSC_9274.jpg
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/176612144

    3) Could this be Telicota augias?

    No dark scaling on HW so I rule out T.besta. No staggered arrangement on FW so I rule out T.colon. Face and body doesn't look to be as pale as a typical T. linna. This individual looked to be a little more orange than yellow without flash.

    Looking forward to hear your opinions!

    DSC_9281.jpgDSC_9290.jpgDSC_9293.jpg

    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/176612143

    Thank you!

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    Post 101.

    LASSIPCOM.png

    1. Female Lasippa heliodore.

    2. Female Lasippa tiga.

    Lasippa heliodore.
    FW submarginal spot 3 spot 3 as wide as spot 4 ,& both twice as wide as spot 2.
    Tongue spot at cellend often better delineated in black
    Males.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/102081774
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/144489127
    Females
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/143711454
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/159796253
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/162280010


    Lasippa tiga
    FW cellend tongue spot often less defined.
    FW submarginal spot 3 twice as wide as spot 2 & 4.
    Male.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174888488
    Female.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/173761163

    Lasippa tiga is very common while L. heliodore is rather rare.


    The spots are described in the set position, ie a set specimen.
    The numbering of the spot are as for the species.

    It is tempting to describe spot 3 as taller than spot 2 or 4.
    Describing as you like soon leads to complications.
    I have read some descriptions of species in Wikipedia by citizen scientists & find them incomprehensible.

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    3. Male Telicota besta bina.
    The upperside pic . with space 2 base orange & the slightly curved brand (nearer inner border of black space)is undoubtably that of T. besta.

    Despite there being 4 (possibly 5) species in Singapore the Telicota species prove very difficult to ID in field shots.


    TELICOTD.png
    Telicota colon.
    This is easily IDed because FW spots 4 & 5 are staggered out from spot 3.
    Spots 4 & 5 are often distorted.
    The female have more regular spots 4 & 5 & is harder to ID.
    Male
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/16412344
    Female.
    Female have the upper FW cellend bar 2X longer than the lower one.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/6234960
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/19466893


    Telicota besta. Colour in fieldshots very variable.
    This is closely related to T. colon
    FW with an orange patch at the base of space 2 (visible also on the underside. Females of all species lack this patch.
    Male brand set near to the inner border of the black space so there is an area of black adjacent to it.
    Female with upper FW cellend bar loner (as in T. colon female).
    Underside with veins lightly dark-dusted, usually with raised veins & shadowlines.
    Males.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/17850769
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NbpYa8Xex...0/DSC_0294.JPG
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6-BjVfqOI...male_up_01.jpg
    Females.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P5w37zUj7...male_up_01.jpg
    https://butterflycircle.blogspot.com...palm-dart.html


    Telicota augias. Very bright orangey usually.
    Male FW with an orange patch at the base of space 2 as in T. colon & besta.
    More uniform deep orange ,veins not dark dusted.
    Male brand large filling the black space. Abdominal end orange, only lightly shaded.
    Female with upper cellend bar longer as in the other two species.
    Female more orange than other, HW band deeper orange & contrasted (like Cephrene trichopepla.)

    Males.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-y3LkExqbZ...ias_male_2.jpg
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Hp7OPF_eJ...as-augias).jpg
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/92869158
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/96594881
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/30099087

    Note UnH veins not dark-dusted; UpF with space 2 base orange & large brand filling the black space.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/104101569

    Females.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/20417040
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/29427418
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/20417040



    Telicota linna.
    Male& female UnH veins not dark-dusted,
    Male base of space 2 black. Abdominal end shaded darker.Underside ground colour tend to be duskier.
    Female with both FW cellend bars short.
    Underparts often paler.

    Males.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-79Gj7N-1G...TL_male_01.jpg
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qDEk4MIq_...TL_male_05.jpg
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/148087973
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/145415503


    Females.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GfwkAkMIT...male_up_01.jpg
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/145490544
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/131436418
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/121857183


    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 05-Aug-2023 at 09:25 PM.

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    Hi Dr Seow,

    Seeking your assistance to ID the following skippers. As the forum seemed to not be functioning properly for me on web, please access the iNat links to view the photos.

    Thank you!

    1) Telicota besta? as there seemed to be dark dusting on HW wings.

    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181036284

    2) Pelopidas agna?
    uniform brown colour and larger than P. mathias.

    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539431

    3) Telicota besta?
    Quite orange but based on the male brand drawing it seemed to resemble more to T. besta.

    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539441

    4) Pelopidas sp.

    Initial impression is P. conjuctus but the FW spots doesnt look to be much larger than HW spot? So probably P. agna?

    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539446

    5) Pelopidas agna?

    Uniform brown and larger than typical P. mathias.

    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539447

    6) Pelopidas mathias?
    Dirty mix of grey and brown.

    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539453

    7) Telicota sp.

    Rather orange but probably leaning towards T. besta.

    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181540099

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    Post 104.

    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181036284
    1.Female Telicota besta.
    Dull colour ;veins dark-dusted.


    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539431
    2. Female Pelopidas agna.
    Uniform ochreous brown.


    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539441
    3. Telicota besta male.
    Note brand nearer the triangular orange patch in space 2 than the main band.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6-BjVfqOI...male_up_01.jpg


    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539446
    4. Male Pelopidas agna.
    Note some FW spots are visible, & are small & not yellow.
    Male & female P. conjunctus.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...lt_Khew_03.jpg
    https://www.thaibutterflies.com/wp-c...s-1080x675.jpg


    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539447
    5. Female Pelopidas agna.


    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181539453
    6. Male Pelopidas agna.
    FW is rather tattered & worn .HW colour unoform.


    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181540099
    7. Male Telicota besta.
    Fairly typical, with raised veins & dark linings.



    TL Seow: CHeers.
    PS. P. mathias & agna males with upperside confirmation.

    P. mathias males.
    UpF spots 2 & 3 quadrate ; Underside with dirty uneven shadings.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...d8457890-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...d8457890-2.jpg

    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...a966070e-2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...a966070e-3.jpg


    P. agna males.
    UpF spots 2 & 3 narrow; Underside uniform brown, without dirty shadings.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...4fb1355a-2.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...4fb1355a-3.jpg

    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...36d28b93-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...36d28b93-2.jpg
    Last edited by Psyche; 04-Sep-2023 at 12:16 PM.

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    Hi Dr Seow,

    Could you help to verify the following 2 skippers please.

    Thank you!

    1) Potanthus trachala?

    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184641821

    2) Caltoris sp. Maybe C. bromus?

    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184641820

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    Post 106.


    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184641821
    1. Potanthus trachala. Female on the left )greyer).
    Note FW spots 4 & 5 are only connected above & below by the spikes to the other.
    HW upper block of the band projected outwards.


    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184641820
    2. Caltoris bromus male.

    Three species have more prominent pale areas on the antennal shafts.

    Caltoris bromus
    FW typically with two large subapical spots ;upper cellspot also large.
    HW dark brown & nearly the same tone as FW.
    Female paler, with HW spots 2 & 3.
    Male.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/163945647


    Caltoris cahira.
    FW with large subapical spots (2 usually) & upper cellspot.
    HW dark chocolate brown without red tone contrasting with FW.
    Male.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/183638559
    Female.
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7l1dr3n_g...ris+bromus.jpg


    Caltoris cormasa.
    FW subapical spots small two or often three. Upper cellspot small.
    HW heavily overlaid with redbrown scales.
    Redder tone than in all other species.
    Males.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/151597328
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/162264663
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/176612106
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/178143673
    Note subapical spots are small. Less red example.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184641828
    Females.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/147253163
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/173170595
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/173170576

    Caltoris malaya
    Pale area on the antennae weak or none.
    FW subapical spots usually two. Cellspot usually none ,ocassionally a tiny one.
    male rusty brown, female more ochreous.
    Male. Note front antenna no pale area.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/133445751
    Female.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/161212993
    With a tiny upper cellspot but only on the underside.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181903883

    Other confusion.
    Baoris species.
    FW subapical spots reduced.
    Upper cellspot may be crescentic.
    Antennae mostly black.
    HW may have aq pale area at cellend.
    [B]Abdomen noticeably banded.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/165866621
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/151120606

    Female probably B. farri.
    Full complement of spots, black antennae, banded abdomen.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/153765692


    Male Quedara monteithi.
    No FW spot, bulging palpi (labial palps).
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/164372780



    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 25-Sep-2023 at 05:36 AM.

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    Hi Dr Seow,

    Managed to uncover this photo in my archives.

    Could this be Rapala damona?

    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184711958

    Thank you!

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    Post 108.

    Yes. It is a female Rapala damona.

    The two R. suffusa & damona are closely similar.
    HW with the postdiscal band in space 1b, above the speckled patch arched or domed.
    FW postdiscal band distinctly curved in toward s the costa.

    Rapala suffusa.
    HW speckled patch in space 1b usually occupy half or less of the marginal zone.
    Orange crown in space 2 not visible, merging with the ground colour.
    Males.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...h_Jonathan.jpg
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/59847707
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/73307440
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/30675458
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/122791984
    Females.
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/production-...rop_x_152_.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...lash_Ellen.jpg
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-66Xxi-yYP...ash-SunnyC.png
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/60172517
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/59960237

    Rapala damona.
    HW speckled patch occupy 80% or more of the marginal zone in space 1b.
    HW orange crown not well-defined, weak, obscure or not visible.
    Males
    https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4687/...9e6a2623_c.jpg
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181903884
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/183617588
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/124369699
    Females.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184711958
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184248821
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/124682032
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/184376205


    TL Seow: cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 28-Sep-2023 at 06:28 AM.

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    Hi Dr Seow,

    Can I check if this skipper is Parnara bada?

    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/188256849

    Thank you!

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