Post 47 no. 2
Female Caltoris cahira.
Eliot state of C. bromus , the female always have a spot in FW space 1b on the upperside . The underside have a similar corresponding spot.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93320001.html
The female C. cahira have none or is weakly present as here.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93300010.html
Pic. 2 clearly shows this female have no spot in space 1b on both sides.
TL Seow: CHeers.
PS. In C. cahira the HW is dark chocolate but is variable in depth ,& may be difficult to determine in worn examples.
Taiwan.
https://156cfyphotography.blogspot.c...is-cahira.html
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...t8QdA&usqp=CAU
PS. Baoris have blackish antennae. Male with a dark brand in a pale area UnF; female always with a space 1b spot on both surfaces.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93210001.html
Last edited by Psyche; 25-Jun-2022 at 07:57 AM .
Hi Dr. Seow,
Would like to seek your assistance to confirm/ID the following skippers.
1) Caltoris with pale antenna area, Caltoris cormasa ?
DSC_0238.jpg
2a) Telicota besta ?
DSC_0052.jpg
2b) Telicota besta ?
DSC_0223.jpg
3) Caltoris philippina ? Very sharp forewing margin, appear greenish under flash, no pale antennae region and no FW cell spot.
DSC_0329.jpg DSC_0299.jpg
Post 51.
You got them all right.
1. Caltoris cormasa female; Reddish tone ;3 subapical spots yellowish; pale area on antennae.
2. Telicota besta female; Veins dark dusted; FW spots 4 & 5 equal.
3. Caltoris phillipina female' FW no cellspot; excavate margin ;Underside greenish ochreous scalings.
TL Seow: Cheers.
Hi Dr Seow,
Seeking your help to ID the following species.
1. Could this be Pantoporia hordonia ?
FW inner grey line seems to be wider than the orange line although its quite faded?
Also, could I trouble you to explain where the speculum is? I have trouble visualizing it on the butterfly.
DSC_0516.jpg
2. Posting on behalf of a friend. Is this Baoris sp.?
photo_6215209593534001193_y.jpg
3. A very worn out individual. Seems to have cell spot so could it be Caltoris cormasa ? The pale antenna region does not seem to be large though.
DSC_0463.jpg DSC_0463.jpg DSC_0471.jpg
Thank you!
Post 53.
1 Female Pantoporia hordonia.
The two species are often much confused throughout their range.
In Singapore the two species are more similar possibly because of some crossing.
Pantoporia hordonia .
Grey submarginal band wider than the orange band, which may be broken or much rduced,
The male have a small grey speculum on the HW base which is fully hidden at rest.
Typical male P. Malaysia.
http://nlliew66butterflies.blogspot....-hardonia.html
Note small HW grey speculum in set specimen.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720010001.html
Males Singapore.
https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...381/large.jpeg
https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...336/large.jpeg
Females Singapore.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...2147/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...376/large.jpeg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...6740/large.jpg
Pantoporia sandaka.
FW submarginal orange band wider than grey band ,typically intact , unbroken.
Grey band often constrcted into beads.
Male FW postdiscal band's foot extension along the lower margin always large.
HW with a larger white speculum around the base which often shows as a white highlight below the FW.
SSp davidsoni showing the white speculum.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720020010.html
Typical male P. Malaysia.
http://nlliew66butterflies.blogspot....a-sandaka.html
Males Singapore.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rzo8wjfyC...erick_02_c.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...2610/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...753/large.jpeg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9459/large.jpg
The female can be rather confusingly similar to the female P. hordonia.
Females Singapore.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...0791/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...1146/large.jpg
https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...128/large.jpeg
Probable female P. sandaka. ( Google zoom 300X ,& the grey band can be seen to be much narrower than the black spacing.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...7217/large.jpg
Last edited by Psyche; 18-Jul-2022 at 01:17 AM .
Post 53.
2 Baoris ,probably B. farri female.
Antannae blackish, FW two oblong cellspots.
Caltoris always have rounded cellspot particularly the upper one.
FW underside pale area as in female Baoris.
See female from Chiang Mai.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93210001.html
Post 53.
3. Probably female Caltoris cormasa.
Very worn specimen, usual red tone hardly noticeable, except upperside FW.
Spot markings as in C. cormasa .
Pale area on antenna may darken with age.
3rd picture is suggestive of C. cormasa.
Other two possibilities C. bromus & cahira seem unlikely.
TL Seow: Cheers.
Thanks Dr Seow!
I'm also seeking your opinion on the following Rapala .
Could this be Rapala damona ? Searching through the web and other online platforms does seem to show that R. damona has a larger filling at space 1b compared to R. suffusa .
DSC_0146.jpg
Thank you!
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