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:hmmm: The skippers are going to drive me crazy. :stupid: Please help me id these two, which I think were the same species. Chestnut Bob?
#1
http://img48.photobucket.com/albums/...-4000/3812.jpg
http://img48.photobucket.com/albums/...-4000/3813.jpg
#2
http://img48.photobucket.com/albums/...-4000/3736.jpg
Well, for one thing, these are definitely not Chestnut Bobs.
ID'ing of these skippers is a challenge, and if you have C&P4, there are some species which C&P4 states that "positive separation of the species can only be confirmed through genitalia dissection". Hence characteristics like wing spots and colours are unreliable in the ID.
With the advancement of DNA analysis, it's hoped that one day, we will be able to better ID the species more accurately without resorting to physical appearances and/or dissection.
Having said that, these shots appear to be closer to the Polytremis or Pelopidas species.
These were shot at AH, first two on 2 Jul, and the 3rd on 30 Jun.
For this species, the size of spots is unreliable as an identification characteristic due to the high degree of variation in specimens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustic
you guys are amazing...they all look the same to me loh! If I were Neo, I won't even have asked if they were Chestnut Bobs...would have filed straight into the Chestnut Bob folder liow!
Looks like I better buy the C&P4 and hug it to sleep every night liow! :bsmileo:
Chestnut Bob can be ID quite accurately but Mycalesis spp, the brown (Pelopidas, Polytremis) and orange colour (Ampittia,Telicota, Potanthus etc )skippers are very tough to ID. I usually just file them under Mycalesis spp, Brown skippers and Orange Skippers unless I am 100% sure ;-)
no, burn then drink it :thumbsup: :bsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cycad Blue
No... you must buy C&P4, then burn it, mix the ashes in water and drink the ashes... :bsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cycad Blue
BTW, I have 2 copies of C&P4 - one in a torn and tattered condition. Can loan to 'deserving' parties...
hahahha khew and simon think alike!!!! :bsmileo:
I borrowed C&P4 from the library liow, to browse thru before deciding whether to plonk $72 on a personal copy ;)
That's what my granny used to advocate, before exams. Burn some yellow paper (something called a "fish" in Chinese), then drink the ashes. Yucks! But then again... maybe that worked, cos I passed all my exams! ;PQuote:
Originally Posted by Cycad Blue
:thinking: The tattered one, 'cause u burned some of pages and drink? :bsmileo:Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander
Can anyone possibly id this 'veteran'? Or will it end up as another UBF (unid butterfly)?
http://img48.photobucket.com/albums/...-3500/3383.jpg
http://img48.photobucket.com/albums/...-3500/3386.jpg
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Originally Posted by Common Rose
:hammer: Chey... well-thumbed and used lah... until the whole book fell apart.
That looks more like the Chestnut Bob.Quote:
Originally Posted by Common Rose
Actually for this one, I have already filed it as Chestnub Bob, cause of that white spot in the 2nd pic; but need to 'play safe'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander
:hmmm: So u have not tried it... I thot u r a living example. :bsmileo:Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander
Agree with Khew, Chestnut BobQuote:
Originally Posted by Commander
i guess initially he got 3 books then become 2... after those drinking session :cheers:Quote:
Originally Posted by Common Rose
I think I will start a separate thread on how we classify and store our images.