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CP... firstly, :hammer: :angry:
Your advice given over at this NPSS thread is wrong. For one thing, it's Ciliate Blue and not Cilitate Blue (note spelling).
Worse still, it actually isn't a Ciliate Blue at all! The poor tattered butt shot by that chap is actually Anthene lycaenina miya. Note the costal spot on the hindwing which is clearly seen in both the photos.
Please correct the inaccurate advice hor? Otherwise spoil B-Pals reputation man...
:bsmile: It is only human to err.
Right... and there's still a chance to correct the error.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falcon
LOL.... now khew goes around audit our replies..
safest reply... "Its a butterfly" :bsmile:
Alamak! It's not that I don't make mistakes in ID too leh... just that we want to preserve B-Pals reputation as being the 'experts', so if there is incorrect information given by an 'expert' better set it right by correcting it. Otherwise we won't be taken seriously in future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elbowed Pierrot
Agree with ya, think its best to leave butt ID on external forums to the experts... :sweat:Quote:
Originally Posted by Elbowed Pierrot
Not that bad lah... I'm sure most of you can ID the more common and bigger butts quite easily. Like that Knight taken at Ubin over at CS. Simon could easily ID it and mentioned that it was a male somemore.... impressive... :bsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by Birdwing
you suan me har
Where got suan lar... ID correctly how to suan? ;PQuote:
Originally Posted by Elbowed Pierrot
i think next time must ask khew to counter check before we reply :p
Simon fast becoming a butt ID expert liow...next time when in doubt, and the masters are not around, who do you call? Simon! :bsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander
Ya lor, Simon the Pro! I remmeber he said the male has white at the tip somemore! Good lesson learn. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander
dun call me hor, dun want extra responsible.. skali wrong, khew will scold. Plus I dun like to read ;P surely make alot of mistakes :bsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by Birdwing
Won't scold lah.... just :hammer: only... :bsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by Elbowed Pierrot
answer wrongly kenna rotan
Thanks. For the Lycaenids and Hesperiids, it's best not to be too hasty in ID'ing it, as even with C&P4 in front of us, there is still some difficulty in confirming the IDs of some of these lookalike species.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustic
In the NPS case, it's more obvious cos of A. lycaenina's distinguishing feature. If it had been another Nacaduba or Jamides, I would have just said that it's a Lycaenid and stop there... ;P
Wah... this must be deemed to be a very serious case by the master that he has to put it openly ... :sweat:
hammer only lah :bsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by Elbowed Pierrot
Just a reminder to all Pioneer B-Pals (and one Power Member) that offering ID advice in other websites should be done responsibly and accurately. Especially in "pro" websites like NPSS. Otherwise our credibility as 'butt experts' will be in question if some other specialist around challenges our ID.Quote:
Originally Posted by Common Rose
But it's not such a serious case lah... we live and learn as well, and CP's already corrected it over at NPSS. :-)
I think it is great that you guys are getting better at Id and offering help in other forums. The big butts - Papilionidae, Pieridae and Nympahlidae can usually be Id quite accurately but some of the look-alikes Lycaenidae and Hesperiidae are a bit tough. Like Khew said, for the Jamides/Prosotas/Nacaduba/Brown and orange skippers, if you are not sure just provide the family or genus name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander
That is why we still have folders full of those #*% UFO skippers and Lycaenids :prrr: