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20-May-2012, 04:12 PM
Glorious Begum

North Sulawesi

Just got back early this morning. Les and Antonio are still traveling and will reach home tonight. Let me start the ball rolling....

Mount Lokon taken from Gardenia resort.

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/143424309.jpg

Another view of Mount Lokon

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/143424310.jpg

A few shots inside / outside of Bogani Nani Wartabone National Park.

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/143424510.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/143424513.jpg

Our hard working Butterfly man searching for butterflies

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/143424512.jpg

Crossing the river in the park

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/143424507.jpg

It is dangerous in this park. Ranger was carried a gun. :sweat:

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/143424508.jpg

Let the others post their beautiful pictures here. Guys, come ! come ! post your pictures here..
20-May-2012, 08:17 PM
bluefin

Okee, let's start off with this majestic nawab. :)

Polyura cognatus cognatus [Sulawesi Blue Nawab]

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5114/7...36437928_c.jpg
20-May-2012, 08:36 PM
atronox

Awesome shot!!!:redbounce
This is a Polyura cognatus
20-May-2012, 08:54 PM
Blue Jay

Terrific capture!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
20-May-2012, 10:04 PM
Glorious Begum

Not sure what is this. Looks like The Quaker ?

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/143431596.jpg
20-May-2012, 10:26 PM
Commander

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glorious Begum

Not sure what is this. Looks like The Quaker ?

Probably a related species. But definitely not our local Quaker subspecies. Interesting hairy legs! :bsmile:
20-May-2012, 10:28 PM
Commander

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluefin

Okee, let's start off with this majestic nawab. :)

Awesome shot of this pristine Nawab. :thumbsup: Definitely not a species found in West Malaysia!
20-May-2012, 10:28 PM
atronox

Pithecops phoenix i think. Then again it's a little different.
20-May-2012, 10:48 PM
Blue Jay

Uncle LC,
SG's Quaker has only one spot on the hindwing costa. The "Quaker" that you shot has many more spots.:cheers:
20-May-2012, 11:02 PM
teotp

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluefin

Okee, let's start off with this majestic nawab. :)

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5114/7...36437928_c.jpg

Polyura cognata (Vollenhoven, 1861). Common name: Sulawesi Blue Nawab. There are three subspecies recorded from Sulawesi, cognata, bellona and yumikoe (Vane-Wright & R. de Jong, 2003;Tsukada, 1991; D'Abrera, 1985).

Teo T P
20-May-2012, 11:31 PM
Painted Jezebel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander

Awesome shot of this pristine Nawab. :thumbsup: Definitely not a species found in West Malaysia!

Just arrived back. I'll be very suprised if anything we found is in West Malaysia. We may, very occasionally, have the same species, but the subspecies is likely to be different.

It will take a long time to get everything correct, if we ever do! I suspect I will have a large number of undentified specimens at the end of this thread.
20-May-2012, 11:44 PM
teotp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glorious Begum

Not sure what is this. Looks like The Quaker ?

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/143431596.jpg

Pithecops phoenix (Rober, 1886). Common name: Sulawesi Quaker. Takanami (1989) considers moeros from northern Sulawesi to be a good subspecies of P. phoenix (Vane-Wright & R. de Jong, 2003).

Teo T P

(reason for editing: Wrong ID)
20-May-2012, 11:58 PM
atronox

Quote:

Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel

Just arrived back. I'll be very suprised if anything we found is in West Malaysia. We may, very occasionally, have the same species, but the subspecies is likely to be different.

It will take a long time to get everything correct, if we ever do! I suspect I will have a large number of undentified specimens at the end of this thread.

Sounds like u had a productive trip:) Can't wait to see the lycaenids~
21-May-2012, 12:05 AM
Painted Jezebel

Thanks, Teo. We, or at least I, came across two similar species. This one was small, of the correct size when compared to West Malaysian species. The other, yet to be shown, please give us time, was much larger, and looks like a large Pithecops sp.
21-May-2012, 01:14 AM
Archduke

Wah, I cant wait to see more shots from the trip.
21-May-2012, 01:18 AM
teotp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel

Thanks, Teo. We, or at least I, came across two similar species. This one was small, of the correct size when compared to West Malaysian species. The other, yet to be shown, please give us time, was much larger, and looks like a large Pithecops sp.

Sorry Les, I overlook and it should be Pithecops phoenix. There are two black dots near the costal margin on forewing underside. All IDs were mainly consulted the publication: "The Butterflies of Sulawesi" edited by R. I. Vane-Wright & R. de Jong, 2003.
21-May-2012, 03:26 AM
moloch

Wow, guys, what a great start. The place looks gorgeous and that Nawab was superb! Looking forward to more, lots more!

Regards,
21-May-2012, 12:18 PM
Painted Jezebel

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Finally masnaged to work on the first day's photos.

Attached is, what I think, may be a different species. It was larger than the specimens am used to seeing. - UPDATE - Pithecops phoenix meoros

Aaron, you will have a long wait for the Lycanidae! They were very much notable for their absence!!!
21-May-2012, 12:31 PM
Painted Jezebel

Quote:

Originally Posted by teotp

Polyura cognata (Vollenhoven, 1861). Common name: Sulawesi Blue Nawab. There are three subspecies recorded from Sulawesi, cognata, bellona and yumikoe (Vane-Wright & R. de Jong, 2003;Tsukada, 1991; D'Abrera, 1985).

Teo T P

I think this is the nominate subspecies, P. cognata cognata. The others appear to have distributions further south (at least according to the sometimes questionable Funet website). I have seen Dick and de Jong's paper, but unfortunately, I do not have a copy here at home,.... yet!
21-May-2012, 02:07 PM
Angiud

Few shots from the first day, at Bogani Nani (Wartabone) National Park, in the forest:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7244/7...9ddb1bdb_z.jpg
Kohinoor

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5156/7...e5673b7a_z.jpg
Faunis cfr. menado

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7085/7...77005a89_z.jpg
UnID Satyrinae
21-May-2012, 02:31 PM
Leopard Lacewing

Wow! Looks like you guys had a productive trip... can't wait to see more pics! :thumbsup:
21-May-2012, 04:51 PM
atronox

The kohinoor is probably the related sp Amathuxidia plateni
21-May-2012, 07:18 PM
Angiud

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7098/7...5e4a69bc_z.jpg
The Orange Albatross

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7215/7...0f4000e4_z.jpg
The Green Dragontail

Dragontail Peeing?

Appias nero or Appias zarinda ?
21-May-2012, 07:47 PM
Archduke

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angiud

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7098/7...5e4a69bc_z.jpg
The Orange Albatross

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7215/7...0f4000e4_z.jpg
The Green Dragontail

Dragontail Peeing?

Appias nero or Appias zarinda ?

Wow, solid shot of that Dragontail!
21-May-2012, 09:54 PM
Painted Jezebel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leopard Lacewing

Wow! Looks like you guys had a productive trip:

Actually No! This was a very disappointing trip. Never, ever, use a tour agency, unless they understand your requirements. It became perfectly clear early on that the tour operator had no idea of what we wanted. They wanted us to be birders, or normal tourists.

But, then again, they have never had to deal with entomologists.
21-May-2012, 10:12 PM
Glorious Begum

A few from me.

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/143464009.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/143464129.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/143464131.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/143464130.jpg
21-May-2012, 10:40 PM
teotp

[QUOTE=Angiud;113153]Few shots from the first day, at Bogani Nani (Wartabone) National Park, in the forest:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7244/7...9ddb1bdb_z.jpg
Kohinoor

Amathuxidia plateni (Staudinger, 1887). Common name: Platen's Kohinoor. Four subspecies recorded from Sulawesi: plateni (N. Sulawesi), iamos (Central & south Sulawesi), pelengensis (Kepulauan Banggai, Peleng) and suprema (Kep. Sula -Mangole, Sanana).

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5156/7...e5673b7a_z.jpg
Faunis cfr. menado

You are right Antonio. Faunis menado (Hewitson, 1865). Nine subspecies reported but subsp. menado from north Sulawesi.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7085/7...77005a89_z.jpg
UnID Satyrinae

Tentatively id as Lohora (Lohora) ophthalimicus (Westwood, 1888). Range: North and eastern Sulawesi. Lohora spp. show very little differentiation in their genitalia or alar (androconial) organs, and identification of certain species presents difficulties (Vane-Wright & H. Fermon, 2003).

Refs.: Vane-Wright & R. de Jong, 2003; D'Abrera, 1985; Vane-Wright & H. Fermon, 2003.

Teo T P
21-May-2012, 11:03 PM
Painted Jezebel

[QUOTE=teotp;113181]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angiud

Tentatively id as Lohora (Lohora) ophthalimicus (Westwood, 1888). Range: North and eastern Sulawesi. Lohora spp. show very little differentiation in their genitalia or alar (androconial) organs, and identification of certain species presents difficulties (Vane-Wright & H. Fermon, 2003).

Refs.: Vane-Wright & R. de Jong, 2003; D'Abrera, 1985; Vane-Wright & H. Fermon, 2003.

Teo T P

I have other photos which, I suspect, are the same species, but there are some significant differences. I am still working through my photos, so it will take a couple of days. The differences relate to the shape of the submarginal stripe on the hindwing.

I also know that Antonio has another photo of a similar specimen, but with additional spots on the hindwing. We are working, not completely in the dark, but in a completely new area for those of us with only experience of Sundaland, so we must not rush into species identification.

Sorry, but I am very wary of jumping to quick conclusions, which I, personally, have done far too often in the past, and learnt my lesson.
21-May-2012, 11:18 PM
Painted Jezebel

2 Attachment(s)

Are these male and female Faunis menado? The white forewing stripe is interesting.
21-May-2012, 11:41 PM
teotp

[QUOTE=Painted Jezebel;113182]

Quote:

Originally Posted by teotp

I have other photos which, I suspect, are the same species, but there are some significant differences. I am still working through my photos, so it will take a couple of days. The differences relate to the shape of the submarginal stripe on the hindwing.

I also know that Antonio has another photo of a similar specimen, but with additional spots on the hindwing. We are working, not completely in the dark, but in a completely new area for those of us with only experience of Sundaland, so we must not rush into species identification.

Sorry, but I am very wary of jumping to quick conclusions, which I, personally, have done far too often in the past, and learnt my lesson.

Agreed. I have to do it slowly because so many books and literatures (text with keys for upperside/underside of species/subspecies) have to go through them carefully (e.g. a recent review paper of subgenus Appias (Catophaga) which kindly sent by Prof. Vane-Wright of NH Museum is more than 100 pages. So id of Appias nero subspecies from Sulawesi will take some time and I will make mistakes too).

Teo T P
22-May-2012, 12:10 AM
teotp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angiud

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7098/7...5e4a69bc_z.jpg
The Orange Albatross

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7215/7...0f4000e4_z.jpg
The Green Dragontail

Dragontail Peeing?

Appias nero or Appias zarinda ?

Yata (1981) and Yata et al (2010) stated: Appias zarinda is closely resembles A. nero, but is readily distinguished from the male of the later by the sharply pointed forewing apex, both wings (upperside) without markings and veins not black dusted.

Two subspecies of Lamproptera meges recorded from Sulawesi: ennius (north, central, south and southeast Sulawesi and Kep. Banggai - Peleng) and akirai (South Sulawesi).

Teo T P
22-May-2012, 12:26 AM
teotp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel

Finally masnaged to work on the first day's photos.

Attached is, what I think, may be a different species. It was larger than the specimens am used to seeing.

Les, is this specimen larger (twice the size?) than the one (which I id as Pithecops phoenix) posted by LC Goh yesterday?

Teo T P
22-May-2012, 12:51 AM
teotp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glorious Begum

A few from me.

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/143464009.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/143464129.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/143464131.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/143464130.jpg

1. Polyura cognata cognata (male)
2. Caleta caleta. Two subspecies: subsp caleta (north and central Sulawesi); subsp kalawara (central Sulawesi).
3. Amathuxidia plateni plateni (north Sulawesi).
4. Everes lacturnus.

Teo T P
22-May-2012, 01:24 AM
teotp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel

Are these male and female Faunis menado? The white forewing stripe is interesting.

Sexes similar. The subapical white band of the forewing is very variable, being sometimes totally absent or very prominent (B. D'Abrera. Butterflies of the Oriental region, part II: page 492, 1985).

Teo T P
22-May-2012, 01:42 AM
bluefin

Three little fellas. :)

Rapala dioetas (female).

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5279/7...e95bfc89_c.jpg

Rapala ribbei

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8143/7...25f2c484_c.jpg

Hypolycaena erylus gamatius

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5331/7...7f4e446a_c.jpg
22-May-2012, 04:00 PM
Angiud

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7088/7...f7f58191_z.jpg
Pithecops sp.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7212/7...bc743025_z.jpg
Another shot of the Green Dragontail

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5467/7...58816b49_z.jpg
Rapala sp.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5333/7...6ce67530_z.jpg
The Tawny Rajah

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7226/7...11b0936e_z.jpg
The Sulawesi Blue Nawab

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8160/7...3ca48969_z.jpg
A Ring
22-May-2012, 05:41 PM
teotp

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluefin

Three little fellas. :)

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5279/7...e95bfc89_c.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8143/7...25f2c484_c.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5331/7...7f4e446a_c.jpg

Six Rapala species were reported by Vane-Wright and de Jong (2003) from Sulawesi. Your photos:

1. Rapala dioetas (female).
2. Rapala ribbei. The underside of females is variable in intensity (D'Abrera, 1986).
3. Hypolycaena erylus gamatius (Fruhstorfer, 1912).

Teo T P
22-May-2012, 05:55 PM
teotp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angiud

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7088/7...f7f58191_z.jpg
Pithecops sp.

What is the size of this Pithecops butterfly? I may wrongly id the previous photo (from LC Goh) as I don't have the size of it. Two Pithecops species reported from Sulawesi (i.e. P. corvus and P. phoenix. The later species is larger. So the photos from LC and Les may be P. corvus and P. phoenix respectively.).

Teo T P
22-May-2012, 09:27 PM
Silverstreak

Some very unique species!!

Guess you guys must have lots of fun!!!

..... the lady member of the trip would you kindly do a trip report for the Blog?;P

:cheers:
22-May-2012, 10:46 PM
Painted Jezebel

Quote:

Originally Posted by teotp

Les, is this specimen larger (twice the size?) than the one (which I id as Pithecops phoenix) posted by LC Goh yesterday?

Teo T P

Simple answer,,,, Yes!

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