Sunny, this rajah is colored so differently! it looks like the one khew shot and posted. the steely grey with the green tinge. have not seen this color before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverstreak
are they variants? i like this color!
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Sunny, this rajah is colored so differently! it looks like the one khew shot and posted. the steely grey with the green tinge. have not seen this color before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverstreak
are they variants? i like this color!
In: Malayan Nature Journal volume 59, page 6 (para 4), 2006 or volume 58?Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyche
I missed something from my collection of MNJ?
Teo T P
Lemon's shot is an eyeopener. It shows the hindwing white spots can be identical in both species. However, I do noticed some of the blue & black dots to the outside of the white spots are a bit elongate as in Ch'ng's shot.
The forewing white band is also seen in C. bernardus, but is useful as most bernardus do not have it.
I have seen a fair number of the males of C. bernardus & they are all steely greyish brown, quite an unusual colour.
I am quite confident Lemon's individual is another example of C. harmodius martinus.
TL Seow:cheers:
Oops. it is volume 59.Quote:
Originally Posted by teotp
TL Seow:cheers:
These two species can get very confusing.
Here is Fderick's shot of C bernardus from Panti.
It appears brown although you can still see grey shading & tint over both wings.The broad black border of the upperside confirmed it is C. bernardus.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0EK80AsaR7...Rajah%2529.jpg
TL Seow:cheers:
PS. other examples of malayan C. bernardus crepax by LC.
http://i.pbase.com/o6/25/686825/1/86...rduscrepax.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/o6/25/686825/1/82...crepaxcopy.jpg
Chng, Lemon,
Do you guys have other shots of your Rajahs that show a bit of the upperside, ie a bit of the costal (forward) margin or the the tornus (lower angle) of the forewing.
Les' Charaxes series have certainly bring forth some doubts.
TL Seow:cheers:
Dr Seow,
unfortunately no. thought all of them were tawny rajah with the steely grey/greenish ones being color variants.
Dr Seow, unfortunately I do not have any upperside shot too :-(
Here are two sequence shots just as the Tawny Rajah that I was shooting took off. Doesn't help much I suppose. :embrass:
Thanks anyway guys, but I don't mean an obvious upper shot.
Have a look at Sunny's shot of C. bernardus.
The opposite wings can just be seen ; the forewing tornal margin is black proving it is bernardus.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/forum...4&d=1345297823
Yutaka's series show all forms of C. bernardus in mainland southern Thailand have the steely grey tint.
This appeared as a purplish-grey wash in the images (too much red).
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/cha/60180020.html
There are no record of 2 forms of C. bernardus, but since these two resembles the forms of C. bernardus in Ko Samui, it would be great to confirm the ID beyond doubt.
TL Seow:cheers: