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Post 70 No. 2.

Lyclene ?pseudobunda.

As stated in the text of pudibunda, the difference between the pudibunda & cuneigera groups is in the way the 2 dark lines crossing the FW run.
In the[I] cuneigera group , the 2 lines are wide apart at the costa & narrow & curved inwards at the lower dorsum .
In pudibunda group (pudibunda & pseudobunda) the 2 lines expand above(to costa) & below after the constriction (Hour-glass shape).
No. 2 is obviously a member of the pudibunda group.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-7/...riini_4_18.php
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-7/...riini_4_16.php .
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-7/...riini_4_17.php
( Paragraph corrected. )

The pincer-mark on the FW is characteristic for L. pudibunda & pseudobunda.

Of the three, only L. cuneigera have been recorded here.
L. pudibunda is known from the Himalaya Sumatra,& Borneo, while L. pseudobunda is endemic to Borneo.

The case for this being L. pseudobunda are:
The wide hour-glass mark differentiate it from the narrow hour-glass in pudibunda.( However the mainland form may have a wide hour-glass.)
The submarginal spots also tends to merge into an irregular line in pudibunda.)


All other Lyclene species have quite different markings.

TL Seow:cheers:
PS. I just realised this could be an entirely new species altogether.
As stated in the text for pudibunda, both the pudibunda & cuneigera groups have the FW fringed with black ie. cilia are black.
This one have the FW cilia pale buff brown.

Seow, you may not be aware, but there is another species in the pudibunda group, described in 2009 by Cerny from specimens found in Peninsular Thailand called Lyclene minibunda. This does not have black cilia, at least not the specimen shown in Moths of Thailand, Volume 6.

He states "The body size is significantly smaller reaching 13 to 14mm in males and 16mm in females. The shape of the falus corresponds with Lyclene pseudobunda HOLLOWAY, whereas the shape of the valve in intermediate from L. pudibunda and L. pseudobunda." No mention of cilia.

Les, you are a savior! I was just wondering if there were any other 'bunda' around but funet do not mention any.

However BOLD have a series of L. minibunda collected in Thailand.
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php...e?taxid=394512

As you can see in the forms with the deeper reddish FWS the margins are variously darkened.
Two, Nos 4 & 11 with paler, somewhat more rounded FWs have the margins pale. I think these 2 are females.

The wide hour-glass mark & discrete submarginal spots would also separate these from L. pudibunda.

It is almost a certainty that this Singaporean is Lyclene minibunda.

BTW, any idea on Post 70 no.1 & 3.

TL Seow:cheers:
PS. The 'hourglass mark' can be narrow as this L. pseudobunda shows although all examples of minibunda shown have a wide hourglass.
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php...e?taxid=224666

PS2 Here is the description of the female L. pudibunda stating the FW cilia are irrorated with black. Thus both sexes have black FW margins reaffirming M.O.B.'s statement on pudibunda.
http://www.archive.org/stream/catalo...e/438/mode/1up

PS3. I gather from the gist of Jerome's statement in post 70 that you have already made the tentative ID of L. minibunda although he did not put the name down.

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Originally Posted by Psyche

Les, you are a savior!

BTW, any idea on Post 70 no.1 & 3.

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You are welcome! Unfortunately, I can not find any match for the other two.

Post 70 No. 3.

A lucky break. In looking at Geometridae ( because of its open wing stance & HW band) a likely match is found.

Heterostegane subfasciata . Geometridae, Ennominae, Cassymini.

Correction: This is actually a Crambidae/Pyralidae.

The 3 lines on the FW are correctly placed & spaced, the outer with a bent at the upper third.
HW with 2 lines forming a narrower band.
Note the dark head.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11...symini_7_3.php

TL Seow:cheers:

Thank you, Dr Seow.

Two more.

Arctornis sp
This time, there are two very faint discal spots on each forewing. And no brownish marks on any of the termens.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...62833309_n.jpg

ID unknown.
Thought it was just another regular Amata huebneri. But it proved to be something else! It has feathery antennae instead. Also, the markings on it's body are different. Not to forget it's wings too!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...15420814_n.jpg

Here's an Amata huebneri for comparison
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...75722278_n.jpg

Post 76.

No. 1 should be Arctornis hippia.
The moth is rather worn.

On the right FW cell is a vague dark spot but none on the left.
There is a vague dark spot outside the cell on the right & 3 on the left FW.
Their positions do not correspond between left & right.
They are artefacts (not natural) due to wear/abrasions.

If you look carefully on the left wing there is a tiny dark dot situated midway near the cross-vein of the FW cellend.
This is the true discal spot & there is a corresponding faint near the big vague spot on the right.
The wing termens are also lightly brownish. The white scales are not arranged in any pattern.

No. 2. No match at the moment. Not Amata species.
No match with Bornean Zygaenids. Perhaps a species not found there.
I think some Geometrids are similar but the antennae will not match.

TL Seow:cheers:

#76-2: What about Eressa confinis? I ID'ed a similar one (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_r...57633341058537) as probably that, I am not sure where I got the name from, so if I had help, I apologize for not mentioning it.

Edit: Or I should say similar oneS as I have one more: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_r...57633341058537

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Originally Posted by guldsmed

#76-2: What about Eressa confinis? I ID'ed a similar one (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_r...57633341058537) as probably that, I am not sure where I got the name from, so if I had help, I apologize for not mentioning it.

Edit: Or I should say similar oneS as I have one more: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_r...57633341058537

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Bingo! This is the right one.

I would have thought its antennae should be the same as Amata.
TL Seow:cheers:

Post 34. No. 2.

I finally figured out what this Geometrida is.

Cusiala boarmides. Geometridae, Ennominae. Boarmiini.
This individual is much more heavily marked than the Bornean example, the postmedial (postdiscal in butterfles) dark line is more sinuous & irregular.
The HW postmedial which is macula (spot-like) & curved is shorten by perspective due to the HW folding down sides of the abdomen.
Other matching features are the two black spots on the thorax. 2 black spots on the FW costa; dark fascia on the FW apex.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11...miini_27_1.php

Post 12 No. 2.
The tentative ID of Arctonis phasmatodes is incorrect because of the prominent discal black spot.
Only a few have this but none will match. The closest A. semihyalina is fairly translucent.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-5/...thini_1_24.php

Note A. camurisquama & hipparia from Singapore are described with discal spots, but Bornean forms are not.

Correction: A. semihyalina is very unlikely as it is fairly translucent & not recorded in Singapore.
The text indicates that females are harder to ID.
A comparison with Post 52/1 A. camurisquama shows they are quite similar except the margins of Post 12/2 are very pale.
It is most prrobably the female (rounded FW & fat abdomen ) of A. camurisquama.


TL Seow:cheers: