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Yes, I noticed it from VW & de J. Thanks Les.Quote:
Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel
DÁbrera illustrated the O. medus with only two and 3 ocelli on undersides of forewing and hindwing respectively.
Teo T P
(Additional note: Tornal ocellus is not the mean key for seperating the genera Mycalesis and Orsotriaena (C&P 4 page 118) and this is one reason why I don't want to id it.)
Strange! The links work fine on my side.Quote:
Originally Posted by teotp
Anyway there is an underside of a male O. jopas with the VW-DJ article at plate 10 fig 8. It has more smaller spots.
When Aaron ID'ed the Jamides tentatively as J. aratus, I did not realised there is another almost identical species.
Alan Cassidy an entomologist with Project Wallace to Sulawesi had posted images of both species.
J. fractilinea.
http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...eaMUpUnAC1.jpg
J. aratus lunata.
http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...aMFUpUnAC1.jpg
TL Seow:cheers:
Thanks Seow for pointing me to the Pl. 10 fig. 8 in VW & deJ. Submarginal ocelli varies between individuals within species/subspecies are very common for butterflies. Numerous research papers on the subject were published.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyche
Yes, Alan C. Cassidy is one of the contributor of "Butterflies of Sulawesi" and he also worked with Brunei butterflies. Without the illustration of both J. fractilinea and J. aratus figured side by side by D'Abrera I will have to take a longer time to seperate them. (at least I can compare the size).
Teo T P
Malaysia has a better net work, Singapore too busy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyche
Another strange thing is A. C. Cassidy's J. fractilinea (male) show a faint submarginal band (running from space 4 on upperside forewing to the dorsum) beside the dark termen marginal border and J. aratus (male, collected by John Tennent) not, just the reverse for D''Abrera's illustrations. But J. fractilinea is larger and darker blue is the same.
Teo T P
Dear Seow, Teo,
Please do not over exercise your considerable brain cells on my behalf regarding the Satyrid in Post #64. My shot is too bad, for it to warrant such hard work!
Regarding the Jamides sp. (post #113, last pic), I have checked my 3 photos of the species to see if I had anything extra that may help, but, no, Nelson's shot is by the far best and most revealling, we did not manage an upperside shot. I can not really give any indication of size. It did not appear overly large or small, just an average sized Jamides sp. I have, consequently, labelled the species file with both possibilities for the time being.
This is to compensate one of the photo you neglected: Either Eurema blanda norbana or E. tomina tomina.Quote:
Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel
RE: # 118.
1. & 2. Pareronia tritaea tritaea (male).
3. & 4. Pareronia tritaea tritaea (female).
5. & 6. Papilio ascalaphus ascalaphus.
7. & 8. As id.
I typed out the names because you neglected all the "a"s.
Teo T P
Oops! Thnk you. I obviously hve something ginst tht letter!:grin2: Duly corrected.Quote:
Originally Posted by teotp
Ops! Les looks like you need a new keyboard or alternately try strip the keyboard to clean the contact on letter " a ".:bsmile:
Quote:
Oops! Thnk you. I obviously hve something ginst tht letter! Duly corrected.
RE: # 20.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angiud
Note: Identification of all Lohora species were mainly based on publication of Vane-Wright & Heleen Fermon (2003). Taxonomy and identification of Lohora Moore (Lepidoptera: Satyrinae). the Sulawesi bush browns. Invertebrate Systematics vol.17: 129-141.
3. Lohora ophthalimicus (male).
Teo T P
RE: #44.Quote:
Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel
Lohora ophthalimicus: 1. male and 2. female. (Refs. Invertebrate Systematics 17: 129-141, 2003; D'Abrera Butts. of Oriental Region II, page 449, 1985).
Teo T P
After viewing the links, i realise that this live specimen looks almost identical to the pinned female of aratus (i'm assuming that the live specimen is female based on the shape of the forewing and the very slight peek at the upperside of the forewing) in that:Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyche
- the two outermost postdiscal striae in spaces 6 and 7 of the hindwing are slightly misaligned in the live specimen and the pinned female aratus (connected in fractilinea)
- the two postdiscal striae in the same space as the orange tornal spot are perfectly aligned with those in the spaces above and below in the live specimen and the pinned female aratus (dislocated in fractilinea)
Seems like it's closer to a female aratus.
Of course my assumption that the live specimen is female might well be wrong in the first place and in any case the only fractilinea i'm comparing with is male. Also the configuration of the striae in male and female aratus is totally different (?!?!)
Some more, but I am getting towards the end of this part of the trip.
1&2) The only Riodinid we came across, Abisara kausambi sabina - CORRECTION - Abisara echerius bugiana
3) Hypolycaena sipylus giscon - I have tried to reduce the pinkish wash caused by reflection of the flash from the plant it was sitting on. This is as far as I could get without completely ruining the butt!
4) This may be an Antheme sp. Note the 3 pairs of small tails on the hindwing. - UPDATE- Anthene lycaenina ssp.
5) No idea! - UPDATE- Catopryops ancyra subfestivus
5) Also help needed. (Found in my Zizina otis file, but the hindwing submarginal markings are different. - UPDATE - Udara dilecta thoria
7) A Jamides sp. - UPDATE - Jamides celeno optimus
Only four 'record purposes only' photos left, from me, before I start on the Highlands photos.
Post #132
Looks almost identical to Catopyrops ancyra (Ancyra Blue) with stumps of the tail left.Quote:
5) No idea!
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...wbutterfly/154
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cheers!
Thank you. I have not seen this species in the wild before, it certainly looks more or less identical. There are two species of Catopyrops from the Sulawesi region, but only C. ancyra subfestivus is from the North.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverstreak
post #132
#4 Anthene villosa; shape of forewing subapical band rules out the other two spp. on Sulawesi.
Oh gosh another Jamides:bsmile:
Probably celeno or a related sp.
1. Danaus genutia leucoglene
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7100/7...e661f156_z.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8021/7...36aa6839_z.jpg
2. Libythea geoffroyi celebensis
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7104/7...22acb104_z.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7236/7...ab4a71ae_z.jpg
3. Hypolimnas diomea diomea
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7213/7...6e0ea511_z.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7084/7...eae8d7e3_z.jpg
1. Anthene lycaenina
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8022/7...fc6d00f6_c.jpg
2. Everes lacturnus.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8027/7...3302accc_c.jpg
3. Jamides celeno optimus
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8017/7...610c61da_c.jpg
4. Catopyrops ancyra subfestivus.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8002/7...5d11ab6b_c.jpg
Cyrestis thyonneus celebensis
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7084/7...b4ea23a8_c.jpg
Pareronia tritaea tritaea (male)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8146/7...57682201_c.jpg
Hypolycaena sipylus giscon
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7085/7...e0b9876e_c.jpg
Post # 139
Likely Everes lacturnus ?
All markings matches and the species has its tails at the vein below the second tonal spot
2.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8027/7...3302accc_c.jpg
Looks like a better condition Catopyrops ancyra
4.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8002/7...5d11ab6b_c.jpg
RE: #132.Quote:
Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel
1. & 2. Abisara echerius bugiana (male).
3. Same as id.
4. Anthene lycaenina.
5. Catopyrops ancyra subfestivus.
7. Jamides celeno optimus.
6. This butterfly belongs to the Lycaenopsis group. I have to go through the keys in "Blue butterflies of the Lycaenopsis group - by J. N. Eliot & A. Kawazoe" and will let you know the id later.
Teo T P
Les, IF YOU HAVE A UPPERSIDE FOR 6., PLEASE SHOW IT.
6. Udara dilecta thoria.
Teo T P
moved to http://www.butterflycircle.com/forum...ad.php?t=12823 :embrass:
RE# 138.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluefin
1. & 2. Danaus genutia leucoglene.
5. & 6. Hypolimnas diomea diomea..
Nelson: It is Libythea species. Any uppersides for 3. and 4. Are they the same specimen?
Teo T P
3. & 4. Libythea geoffroyi celebensis. Igarashi & Fukuda (2000) documented and also illustrated it's life history (Plate 238, page 532).
Teo T P
Unfortunately there are no upperside shots. This one is very skittish and those are already highly cropped pictures.Quote:
Originally Posted by teotp
Thanks Teo. :cheers:
Hi, Mr Teo, i double checked with the funet website and d' abrera, the only Anthene on Sulawesi are licates, philo and villosa:)Quote:
Originally Posted by teotp
RE: # 139.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluefin
2. Everes lacturnus.
3. Jamides celeno optimus.
Others: As id.
Teo T P
Beautiful photos of Hestinalis divona, especially the yellow proboscis in second picture. Excellent, LC!Quote:
Originally Posted by Glorious Begum
Teo T P
There are four species on Sulawesi. A. licates, A. philo, A. villosa and A. lycaenina. (Vane-Wright and de Jong 2003).Quote:
Originally Posted by atronox
LC, your posts #142 & 143 show species from the Highlands, can you repost them on the thread deliberately set up for that area after Sunny's statement that this thread was too messy!
There are only two members of the Libythea (Beaks) on Sulawesi. From the suffused markings, this looks more like L. geoffroy celebensis, to me.
Re Post #132 and reply #141.
Thanks very much for the IDs. And I was so sure of the Abisara sp. (pics 1&2)! Duly corrected.
Sorry, no upperside of the Udara sp.
Les answered on behalf, Aaron. (See # 149.)Quote:
Originally Posted by atronox
Teo T P
Id of 3. and 4. posted (see edited #138).Quote:
Originally Posted by bluefin
Teo T P
Thank you Les for answering Aaron's question for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel
Apprently you missed one of the striae between the large postdiscal white band and the termen.
Is all right. The undersides of the Udara photo is enough for me to id it as J. N. Eliot and A. Kawazoe gave detailed seperation keys in their book for this species with both upperside and underside illustrations. Is me wanted to see the upperside.
Teo T P
I find hard to trace the corect ID as there were a few correction here and there.
Appreciate if you could go back to your picture and update with correct name. Thanks to all. :cheers:
Very nice Nelson, I missed both also. :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by bluefin
Thanks LC. No problem lah, we go back and nail these two. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Glorious Begum
:cheers:
Thanks again to Teo, Seow, Aaron, Sunny and Les for spending your invaluable time and knowledge in IDing the butties. :)
:cheers:
My last 3 for this particular thread.
1) An Allotinus species - I do not expect an ID, this is just to confirm we saw one!
2) Cethosia sp. - Normally, on Samui, I find this Genus to be excellent models. This one was different, refusing to come down to a decent height.
3) A beautiful butterfly, Papilio peranthus insulicola, or it would be if pristine. This was the only one we saw who posed. It was not uncommon, but every one we saw was flying fast, so we have had to make do with this very worn specimen!
Lacewing is Cethosia myrina myrina:)
Oops, sry about that; wasn't aware that lycaenina was recorded recently from Sulawesi.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel