No match for the others.
Even trying to figure out the genus seems impossible.
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No match for the others.
Even trying to figure out the genus seems impossible.
TL Seow : Cjeers.
Thx a lot for trying and for those you nailed :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyche
Two Uraniids, one is of the Uraniinae one of Epipleminae. First could be Micronia aculeata the second looks similar to genus Warreniplema:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1620/...d3266a90_o.jpgFang Hot Springs2015_08_28_14_21_01_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1587/...7cf9d14f_o.jpgThaton2015_08_26_06_15_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
And four I suppose to be Notodontids:
Phalera I thought, when I found it - but when looking in the book trying to get ID to species, I found the neighbour Snellentia divaricata, which is now my best guess:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1682/...9cf2cd37_o.jpgThaton2015_08_25_20_19_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
In the book (MoT vol. 5)Phalera obscura looks similar, but when searching online on the name some very different looking critters turn up I wonder if the sole Thailand record depicted in the book is really the same species as the others?:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1561/...141231f0_o.jpgThaton2015_08_28_17_40_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Allodontoides tenebrosa I think:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1581/...bcfb1301_o.jpgWat Tham Tub Tao2015_08_28_11_25_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Saliocleta ochracea I think:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1683/...b89764da_o.jpgThaton2015_08_27_22_27_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Post 83.
1. Acropteris ciniferaria. The bands are oblique.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-8/...niinae_2_4.php
Phuket
http://www.phuketnaturetours.com/Ima...20Chonburi.jpg
2. Phazaca theclata. India to SE Asia. The markings on both wings matched.
HK.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/376/19...67b9611c_b.jpg
TL Seow Cheers.
Thx for very quick and convincing corrections :-)
Post 84.
1, 3, & 4 ,IDs as you indicated.
2. Not sure what this is .It does not match P. obscura when reference image is blown up.
Thx for the confirmations - 3 out 4 ain't bad (for me at least) :-)
Some pyraloidea - through everything from this trip apart from Pyraloidea and a few Sphingidae.
Could this be Orthaga euadrusalis?
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1483/...9c2ccee0_o.jpgThaton2015_08_24_22_08_01_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
No idea...
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1648/...1c11e168_o.jpgDoiPhaHomPokNP2015_08_24_02_42_01_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
This one reminds of Galleria, but I do not know if there are Galleriinae species in the region, that could fit?
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1518/...5817ebcd_o.jpgThaton2015_08_23_14_30_01_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
No idea...
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1648/...a1faf552_o.jpgThaton2015_08_23_14_35_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Looks similar to some Glyphodes but no exact match:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1511/...ff327c9a_o.jpgThaton2015_08_23_15_08_02_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Should be another Glyphodes, and an unidentified from Borneo "Glyphodes sp. 8" at http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital...odes%20sp8.htm and Glyphodes actorionalis is similar too. Update: Glyphodes bicolor maybe?
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1688/...e3681caa_o.jpgThaton2015_08_23_23_44_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Post 84 no. 2.
Baradesa lithosioides
This matches the male in the reference article well although it is paler.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...234087648).jpg
Post 89 no 1.
It is Orthaga exvinacea.
http://www.nbair.res.in/insectpests/...-exvinacea.php
Orthaga eaudrusalis.
http://www.jpmoth.org/Pyralidae/Epip...uadrusalis.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4140/4...0c548dfd_b.jpg
Both are mango pest.
I see the likeness, but I do not think it had these hindwings...
Which one are you refering to? Baradesa or Orthaga.Quote:
Originally Posted by guldsmed
Both have the HWs hidden.
Post 89 no 5.
Glyphodes stolalis. Widespread from Africa to Asia to Australia.
Malaya.
http://www.meloidae.com/data/0045/5-000-000-010-230.jpg
Taiwan
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bettam...7605916993307/
Australia.
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.co.../stolalis.html
TL Seow : Cheers.
Post 89 no 6.
Glyphodes bicolor is right.
In G bicolor the HW white patch extend narrowly on the inner margin down to the tornus.
Africa
http://www.africanmoths.com/images/c...lor1%20upp.JPG
Thailand.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital...%20bicolor.htm
In G actornalis it does not or less so.
http://www.geocities.ws/pyralidaetw/R60-288.html
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5441/1...a6cfb48587.jpg
I was referring to 84/2 that I do not think had black and yellow hindwings, I remember handling it (it was dead as some ant or an other predator had bitten its head off), and I think I would have noticed such underwings. Difficult to know for sure though :-)
[QUOTE=guldsmed;129675]
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1561/...141231f0_o.jpgThaton2015_08_28_17_40_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
You are right it can not be Baradesa because 1. the abdominal end's yellow & black would be visible.
2. The FW is darker & the costal area almost black in Baradesa.
As I said in the earlier post I couldn't match the colour.
It is Ramesa bovoculosugens see the 2nd of the three variants in the reference article,
1 The colour & shading match correctly.
2. The FW marginal spots & shape matched correctly.
3. The FW apex has a pale whitish oblique band.
4. The series of black spots that goes round the discal spot are less sharp or clear in the ref image but can be seen on the right wing.
TL Seow : Cheers.
Post 89/3.
You are right it is Galleria mellonella. montypic in the genus. introduced world wide.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...701408170).jpg
http://bugguide.net/images/raw/LKW/K...SKNK5QV08Q.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...516157729).jpg
Yes - there it was (Ramesa bovoculosugens) - wonder why I overlooked that :embrass:
Edit: Hmm looking again, I think maybe Ramesa siamica is even closer? Or maybe not, it seems to have some white marks not in my specimen...
Quote:
Originally Posted by guldsmed
Even with a proper reference these Notodontids can be quite a headache.
My laptop is getting old. With usual 110% zoom I couldn't scroll properly .
Only by setting to 50% do I get some speed but the image becomes too small, until I zoom up on the image I want.
However, I believe Ramesa bovoculosugens is correct.
The other three R. siamica, lacrimisaddica & bhutanica are more closely related & similar as stated in the text.
All three have the lower 1/3 of the FW paler, from outer margin (termen) to the base.
The marginal & submarginal spots are enlarged often joining to form short bars.
In contrast, R, bovoculosugens have the FW evenly grey on the FW & marginals & submarginals not broaden.
TL Seow: Cheers.
PS R. siamica.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital...%20siamica.htm
Yes - as my last edit suggests, I have also gone back to your ID opinion :-)
More pyraloids:
Looks characteristic but haven't found a match:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1680/...9f677dab_o.jpgThaton2015_08_23_23_45_01_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Possibly Paranacoleia lophophoralis:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1594/...146d58b3_o.jpgThaton2015_08_25_06_43_02_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Sameodes cancellalis?
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1620/...8cdd3061_o.jpgThaton2015_08_26_06_15_04_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Hmmm... Is this Pyraloidea or Erebiidae?
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1694/...e1802bb3_o.jpgThaton2015_08_26_06_13_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Another No idealis
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1606/...36cb6e79_o.jpgThaton2015_08_26_06_12_03_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
This must be Diaphania indica:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1635/...2e540876_o.jpgDiaphania indica - Thaton2015_08_26_06_15_03_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Post 102.
1.Nausinoe pueritia. India to Australia.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital..._080925110.jpg
2. & 3 correct.
Paranacoleia lophophoralis ; range Nepal to Japan & Singapore.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/63_Cram..._040917323.jpg
Taiwan
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/...9b63f362_m.jpg
S. cancellaris
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.co...ncellalis.html
6. As it is. Diaphania indica.
http://www.nbair.res.in/insectpests/...nia-indica.php
Post 102 no. 6.
Pagalia ochrealis. range China, Taiwan to Japan.
http://www.jpmoth.org/Crambidae/Pyra...ochrealis.html
HK Pyralids including Paranacoleia & Paliga. pdf.
http://hkentsoc.org/bulletin/HKEB3(2...Pyraloidea.pdf
TL Seow: Cheers.
Thx a lot for your help and patience - I am amazed (but very glad!) that you take time to help me so much :-)
Are you sure about the Pagalia ochrealis? I feel that the number and shape of lines are differebt, and that the illustrations Pagalia ochrealis show some shading in the margins of the wings, that mine does not have...
Even more pyraloids:
Cirrochrista sp. probably C. annulifera?
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1661/...6d67375a_o.jpgThaton2015_08_26_06_58_01_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Possibly Cnaphalocrocis sp.?
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1523/...97b71383_o.jpgThaton2015_08_27_05_31_01_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
This one I have seen other places too, but never found a name:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1608/...d3c88c1d_o.jpgThaton2015_08_27_09_19_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Too worn to ID?
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1561/...28173263_o.jpgThaton2015_08_27_09_38_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Spoladea recurvalis
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1575/...b5970ea3_o.jpgSpoladea recurvalis - Thaton2015_08_27_14_38_01_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
?
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1651/...dfea5d24_o.jpgThaton2015_08_27_05_25_03_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Quote:
Originally Posted by guldsmed
You do have a point there.
The fourth band is the outermost, near the margin.
In the examples of P. ochrealis from Japan & HK, this band is fuzzy & vaque.
I have merely thought this is regional variation.
Japan
http://www.jpmoth.org/Crambidae/Pyra..._ochrealis.jpg
HK.
http://www.jpmoth.org/Crambidae/Pyra..._ochrealis.jpg
Roger Kendrick states in his article that P. ochrealis was known earlier in HK as Paratalanta nr, aureolalis.
Paliga aureolalis have the four bands sharply defined.
As stated in the text Paliga aureolalis was formerly known as Paratalanta aureolalis.
Range Nepal to Australia.
This should be the correct ID.
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.co...ureolalis.html
I am unable to cross check out another Paliga celalatis range Sri Lanka to Australia.
TL Seow: Cheers.
Post 106/1
Cirrhocrista annulifera should be correct .(annulifera = ring-bearing).
Most examples have a ring.
Samui.
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_i...annulifera.jpg
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php...e?taxid=315738
Post 106/2
Cnaphalocrocis poeyalis.
3, species which are rice pest.
1. C medinalis. FW border parallel to outer band; dical spot short.
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.co...l/medinal4.jpg
http://www.celkau.in/Crops/Cereals/i...is%20adult.jpg
2. C. trapezalis. outer band not parallel to black border; discal mark long & lunulate.
http://www.africanmoths.com/images/c...lis1%20upp.JPG
http://nature.berkeley.edu/~oboyski6...apezalis_2.jpg
3. C. poeyalis. outer band straight ,black border curved leaving an oval pale area , discal spot short.
FW costa marked black & white.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/...4a67d31d91.jpg
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.co.../poeyalis.html
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Post 106/6
Agrioglypta itysalis
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.co...il/itysal.html
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106/3
No name given.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital...0Gen%20sp1.htm
TL Seow:Cheers.
Thx again! Strange that the white crambid does not have a name, not even a genus - I have seen it more than one place, and it is characteristic looking...
Last Pyraloidea:
Spoladea recurvalis
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1575/...b5970ea3_o.jpgSpoladea recurvalis - Thaton2015_08_27_14_38_01_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Another variation of No idealis
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1580/...78dd2bf6_o.jpgThaton2015_08_28_05_08_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Paracymoriza sp. - I found several very similar, but can not get closer, seems difficult.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1628/...3ecb7726_h.jpgParacymoriza sp. - Thaton2015_08_23_23_42_01_DxO_HF by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
And lastly comes a few sphingids for confirmation or correction:
Theretra silhetensis ssp. silhetensis
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1507/...826171a0_h.jpgTheretra silhetensis ssp. silhetensis - Thaton2015_08_23_14_15_01_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Theretra nessus
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1450/...6b902d5d_h.jpgTheretra nessus - Thaton2015_08_27_19_17_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Theretra latreillii
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1614/...9657ec7c_h.jpgTheretra latreillii - Thaton2015_08_26_08_13_03_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Acosmeryx probably Acosmeryx shervilii
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1713/...3b2f48a4_h.jpgAcosmeryx shervilii - Thaton2015_08_27_05_28_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Clanis undulosa ssp. gigantea
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1482/...2bbe47e2_h.jpgClanis undulosa ssp. gigantea - Thaton2015_08_25_05_50_03_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Parum colligata
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1564/...25b4719e_h.jpgParum colligata - Thaton2015_08_25_20_20_DxO by Jan Fischer Rasmussen, on Flickr
Post 113/1
Spoladea recurvalis is fairly common, worldwide.
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.co...il/recurv.html
113/3
Paracymoriza vagalis.
Thailand.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lennyw...on/25264204954
Yunnan Sinobug.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7300/8...78a7be23_b.jpg
114/1
Theretra silhentensis; ID'ed by the white band from thorax down to abdomen.
114/2
Rhynocolaba acteus.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-3/...gidae_31_1.php
114/3
Theretra latreillei; wings with multi fine lines.
114/4
Ascomeryx shervillii
FW with postmedial black band variously branched.
A. anceus.
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/a_sud.htm
A. naga
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/a_nag.htm
A. sericeus.
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/a_sri.htm
FW with black postmedial band from costa to tornus, not branched.
A. pseudomissa. FW with antemedial curved band strongly developed.
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/a_pse.htm
A. shervillii.FW with all markings inner to postmedial dark band , do not form broad bands.
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/a_shv.htm
TL Seow: Cheers.
Ouch - regarding R. acteus versus T. nessus it was a silly error even for me, I have pictures of both from before, and somehow got them mixed up in my mind, did not bother to look up even in my own files because I thought I knew :embrass:
114/5.
Clanis bilineata.Discal dark shading from extend from tornus to vein 3 & a lttle above along outer margin.
Subbasal curved band moderate.
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/c_bil.htm
C. undulosus ;Dark shading extend from tornus to above vein 4 at outer margin. subbasal band poor.
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/c_gig.htm
C.hyperion ;Very dark shading reaching a bit above vein 3; markings strong, 4 bands reaching lower margin.
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/c_hyp.htm
114/6
Parum colligata.
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/p_col.htm
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