Sunny, this rajah is colored so differently! it looks like the one khew shot and posted. the steely grey with the green tinge. have not seen this color before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverstreak
are they variants? i like this color!
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Sunny, this rajah is colored so differently! it looks like the one khew shot and posted. the steely grey with the green tinge. have not seen this color before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverstreak
are they variants? i like this color!
In: Malayan Nature Journal volume 59, page 6 (para 4), 2006 or volume 58?Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyche
I missed something from my collection of MNJ?
Teo T P
Lemon's shot is an eyeopener. It shows the hindwing white spots can be identical in both species. However, I do noticed some of the blue & black dots to the outside of the white spots are a bit elongate as in Ch'ng's shot.
The forewing white band is also seen in C. bernardus, but is useful as most bernardus do not have it.
I have seen a fair number of the males of C. bernardus & they are all steely greyish brown, quite an unusual colour.
I am quite confident Lemon's individual is another example of C. harmodius martinus.
TL Seow:cheers:
Oops. it is volume 59.Quote:
Originally Posted by teotp
TL Seow:cheers:
These two species can get very confusing.
Here is Fderick's shot of C bernardus from Panti.
It appears brown although you can still see grey shading & tint over both wings.The broad black border of the upperside confirmed it is C. bernardus.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0EK80AsaR7...Rajah%2529.jpg
TL Seow:cheers:
PS. other examples of malayan C. bernardus crepax by LC.
http://i.pbase.com/o6/25/686825/1/86...rduscrepax.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/o6/25/686825/1/82...crepaxcopy.jpg
Chng, Lemon,
Do you guys have other shots of your Rajahs that show a bit of the upperside, ie a bit of the costal (forward) margin or the the tornus (lower angle) of the forewing.
Les' Charaxes series have certainly bring forth some doubts.
TL Seow:cheers:
Dr Seow,
unfortunately no. thought all of them were tawny rajah with the steely grey/greenish ones being color variants.
Dr Seow, unfortunately I do not have any upperside shot too :-(
Here are two sequence shots just as the Tawny Rajah that I was shooting took off. Doesn't help much I suppose. :embrass:
Thanks anyway guys, but I don't mean an obvious upper shot.
Have a look at Sunny's shot of C. bernardus.
The opposite wings can just be seen ; the forewing tornal margin is black proving it is bernardus.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/forum...4&d=1345297823
Yutaka's series show all forms of C. bernardus in mainland southern Thailand have the steely grey tint.
This appeared as a purplish-grey wash in the images (too much red).
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/cha/60180020.html
There are no record of 2 forms of C. bernardus, but since these two resembles the forms of C. bernardus in Ko Samui, it would be great to confirm the ID beyond doubt.
TL Seow:cheers:
Thanks Khew, it does proved beyond any doubt the one with the steely grey underside is C. bernardus crepax.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander
TL Seow:cheers:
Just to add to the confusion, I have this one shot at the Penang Butterfly Farm back in 2009. They were breeding C. bernardus, and there were quite a few on the rotting bananas on the feeding shelves. Other that the submarginal white band, the colour is more brownish than those we shot at Frasers recently. :thinking:
The problem is there is a lot of confusion with the ID of with these brown Rajahs on the web.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander
Thankfully your shot shows the upper part of the costal margin to the apex, and the tawny orange almost to the tip showed it is not C. bernardus.
A lot of butterfly farms take their stock from other established farms throughtout the world creating a lot of confusion & headache.
TL Seow:cheers:
What a fantasitc trip you guys had! As usual, you have excellent shots of many species. The Lethe looked very interesting and I don't recall seeing photos of this one before. Someday, I hope to go along on one of these trips to Fraser's Hill and meet the other BC members.
I did not see a response to the eagle identification but on first glance, it looked like a Changeable Hawk-Eagle to me. I don't have my field guides here to confirm the id.
Tonight, I fly to Costa Rica so hopefully will have some exotic shots to post before too long. It will be the wet season so will not be ideal conditions for butterflies. Hopefully, there will be a few that are active. Should be good, though, for amphibians and reptiles.
Regards,
Forgot to post this last one after a bit of PS'ing. Loke will remember that I had to get down real low on the ground to shoot this fella perched on the leaf. ;P
Branded Yamfly (Yasoda pita dohertyi)
Yes, I remembered. It was a very awkward shooting position. It will make it to one of the top ten shooting postures if a sniper was around :bsmile:
The butterfly soon took off after that :cry: