How often can you ID my pictures? I have quite a bit more but don’t want to overload you.
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How often can you ID my pictures? I have quite a bit more but don’t want to overload you.
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Originally Posted by Dilophobia
If you present with a few, not more than five requests at a time, that should be all right.
Let me take my time.
I do a lot of cross- checkings with possible IDs.
Some shots are impossible to solve.
TL Seow: Cheers.
Ok! Can help with these?
1. Rapala? - Bukit Tinggi
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/257119822
2. Arhopala? - Penang Botanical Gardens
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/256458452
3. Allotinus? - Bukit Tinggi
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/256458452
4. Matapa? - Batang Kali
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/241845743
5. Choaspes? - Fraser’s Hill
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/241845743
P43
1.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/257119822
This is a very difficult shot to ID.
It probably is R. dieneces.
The orange crown seem to have a bit of similar flare.
https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Ra...neces-dieneces
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...ash---Khew.jpg
P43, 2.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/256458452
Arhopala pseudomuta.
this belongs to the alitaeus group.
Attachment 28825
Two similar species with paler poorly contrasted markings.
A. pseudomuta have more rounded spots.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict14f/82010001_n001.jpg
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...-%20Horace.jpg
A. elopura have spots with straighter margins.
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...la-elopura.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arhopa...raMUpUnAC1.jpg
There are duplicate pix in your next three observations.
Sorry, must have misclicked.
3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/249756946
4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/241845743
5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234678078
P43, 4.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/241845743
Matapa aria.
Matapa may be recognised bytheir red eyyes and spotless wings.
Matapa aria.
Uniform brown colour.
Cilia of both wings similar being pale buff.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9851/large.jpg
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...enedict_01.jpg
Matapa druna.
Male with a large crescent brand. HW cilia a deeper yellow/orange than the Fw.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...ac6d6bd2-1.jpg
Matapa deprivata is a little known species.
DJong who described the first male from Myanmar, state the upperside is glossed with dark purple and the apex is paler on both sides,Upf, & UnF.
The male lacks a brand.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362151
P43. 3 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/249756946
Allotinus unicolor.
The position pof HW postdiscal spots 5, 6, 7 7 are set in a triangle.
Attachment 28826
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...kwing6-KSK.jpg
P43. 5.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234678078
Choaspes stigmatus.
disregarding the big blaack spot, notice within thee orange folds there is hardly any black.
Attachment 28827
Choaspes stigmatus.
Black patch within orange tailfold small and not reaching near the margin.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456361972
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict15/90300010_n001.jpg
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...stigmatus2.jpg
Choaspes subcaudatus.
Black patch inside fold larger and reaching closer to the margin.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176222
https://wingscales.com/media/2400/3165-1-f473c.jpg
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0276.JPG
TL Seow: Cheers.
Appreciate it Sir. Could ID these too?
1. Allotinus? - Fraser’s Hill
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234678073
2. Rapala scintilla? - Fraser’s Hill
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234678065
3. Burara? - Fraser’s Hill
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234678056
4. Baoris? - Bukit Tinggi
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/269273836
5. ? - Bukit Tinggi
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/269273826
P49, 1.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234678073
Allotinus horsfieldi.
The placement of the HW spots 5, 6, & 7 are much as in A. unicolor, horsfieldi and leogoron
But note the spots are crescent.
A. unicolor have rounded spots.
FW postdiscal band is distinctly dislocated.
These below are similae examples.
https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Al...eldi-permagnus
P49, 2.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234678065
Likely correct as Rapala scintilla male.
The part of the HW postdiscal band running beside the speckled patch in space 1b is a straight slant.
The underside looks grey although it is too dark & blur.
Rapala scintilla.
Male upperside blueshot only on the HW.
UnH postdiscal band in space 1b a straight slant, as in iarbus and manea.
Underside greenish grey.
FW postdiscal band more or less straight, often a slight bent at vein 4.
Males.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847202402
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199416
Female.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199419
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2576285671
P49 3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/234678056
Burara harisa.
The HW orange cilia reaches about vein 5.
HW tornal area shaded orange.
HW patch streaky.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...t_Sunny_03.jpg
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...t_Sunny_02.jpg
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ara-harisa.jpg
Burara jaina.
HW with a discal streaky patch as in harisa.
HW tornal area largely clear of orange shading.
HW orange cilia reaches vein 6- 7.
FW may have a white cellspot.
https://wingscales.com/media/2400/89-1-8e89f.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burara...t-Kakkayam.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...rasekharan.jpg
Other two similar species.
B. etelka
HW orange cilia only reaches vein 4-5.
HW patch solid, often doubled and set close to the cellend.
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...05_field_c.jpg
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...telka_Khew.jpg
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B. oedipodea.
HW orange cilia reaching vein 6.
HW patch solid, single ,and set well separated from the cellend.
Hw lower third heavily shaded orange.
Male have upper part of HW folded over, causing a deformed look.
https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/B...odea-oedipodea
P49 4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/269273836
Caltoris species.
Rounded subapical spots.
The ochreous brown underside and highland habitat suggest Caltoris sirius.
An upperside view required.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/93280001.html
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176722
P49, 5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/269273826
Baoris species but which?
A pale mark at the HW cellend is sometimes seen as in this female from Singapore.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0rwJjrQ_J...oris+oceia.jpg
TL Seow: Cheers.
I do not have a clue. Which Baoris is in the photo? Thanks for the IDs.
Can help to ID these?
1. Potanthus - Bukit Tinggi
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/269273821
2. Neptis - Bukit Tinggi
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/269273820
3. Amathusia - Taman TAR
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/268687246
4. Potanthus - Bukit Tinggi
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/268048046
5. Arhopala - Taman TAR
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/282021400
P56. 1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/269273821
Female Potanthus trachala.
FW spots 4 & 5 detached ,separated from the band.
HW upper part of band partially separated and shifted outwards.
Underside bands edged with dark spots.
Attachment 28828
Males.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_yzw2AzY2d...anthusM01a.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kvlAhJLLs...la-tytleri.jpg
Females.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362347
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4954570446
P56. 2.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/269273820
Neptis omeroda.
Neptis harita.
Hw submarginal fasciae form a chain-link like band.
https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/Neptis-harita-harita
The other two have the HW submarginal fasciae regular.
Neptis ilira.
Upperside darkish with the markings diffuse.
FW cellend spot and cell band fully separated by a cross bar.
https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/Neptis-ilira-cindia
Neptis omeroda.
Markings sharper.
FW ce34llend spot and cell band only partially separated by the cross bar.
FW postdiscal spot 2 quadrate.
https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/N...meroda-omeroda
P56, 3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/268687246
Amathusia phidippus male.
The Amathusia can be extremely difficult to ID.
However, here the upperside is visible.
The margins of both wings are dull pale and diffuse.
UnH 4th band from the base (paler than the preceding three, and adjacent to the large median band have a regular un-notched margins.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847204536
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847204586
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...lson%20Ong.jpg
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...20SimonSng.jpg
Two species are very similar.
Amathusia friderici holmahunti.
In the typical form the upperside is marked with dull orange.
The 4th band UnH is always lightly notched by the veins along both margins.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847204545
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847204541
A. friderici form utana (also treated as a ssp.) is very dark in male and the underside is more heavily shaded.
This has become common in oil palm plantation.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847204538
https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...5ea3d519ab28a4
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847204973
Amathusia binghami.
This is larger, and the upperside have more intense dark orange.
The HW margin is also strongly dark orange.
UnF median bandis broad, usually broadef than the pale postdiscal band.
The 4th band UnH is lightly notched along the margin.
Males.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847204923
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847204933
Female.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847204546
P56. 4.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/268048046
Most likely female Potanthus ganda.
The abdominal end is yellow, shaded dark but not black banded.
Most females Potanthus have some dark shading of the abdominal end.
Potanthus omaha.
UnH very lightly dark shaded.
Veins across the HW band are distinctlt dark-shaded.
Males.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4171164544
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...obby%20Mun.jpg
Female
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4171619755
Potanthus ganda.
This can be confusingly similar. Probably some crossing occur.
The male is a deeperyellow and can be quite orangey.
Veins unH are not or barely darkened.
Males
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2465105624
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2242868662
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4171347629
Females
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1945456229
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co..._underside.jpg
Potanthus mingo differs in having the abdominal en black-banded.
UnH banh is heavily edged by black spots which may give a zigzag appearance.
Male.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/_MG_1531.jpg
Female on the left.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tFtROXZYi...us%2Bmingo.JPG
The mating pair may look like P. trachala but the FW spots 4 & 5 overlap the main band whereas in P. trachala they do not.
P. trachala male.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8c/bd/70/8...b0db7b591d.jpg
P56, 5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/282021400
Likely to be Arhopala phanda.
The cleander group FW spot 4 not shifted out, UnH spot 7 atop spot 6. postdiscal band fully dislocated at vein 2.
Two main subgroup.
The cleander subgroup are large with the markings well separated, so that on the HW the submarginal and pstdiscal bands are well apart. eg A. athada, silhetensis.
A. athada.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co..._adult_m_3.jpg
The alea subgroup are about half the size of the cleander members, so that on UnH the submarginal and postdiscal bands are close and often touch.
eg A. sublustris.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0264.JPG
Arhopala phanda.
Upperside male darkish blue.
Underside postdiscal band broad.
UnH spot 6 and 7 almost equally large and set like a column.
eg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arhopala_phanda
https://m.singapore.biodiversity.onl...doptera-000442
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4f/82150001.html
TL Seow: Cheers.
Thanks again sir
Hi Dr. Seow, could you please ID these?
1. Scobura? - Batang Kali
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233218170
2. Curetis? - Batang Kali
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233218149
3. Matapa aria? - Kuala Woh
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/229699902
4. Isma? - Kuala Woh
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/229699896
5. Pyroneura? - Kuala Woh
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/229699901
Post 63.
1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233218170
Scobura isota.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91680001.html
S. cephala is similar but the third HW cspot is large.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91670001.html
2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/233218149
Likely t be Curetis santana.
FW black border too wide at the tornus to be C. felderi
Also HW Postdiscal spots 6 & 7 in line, while submarginal spots 6 & 7 out of line, as in santana.
Attachment 28830
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc3/84050010.html
C. felderi.
Palpi white ,not spotted with red.
HW postdiscal spot 6 under spot 7.
HW submarginal spots 6 & 7 out of line.
Fw black border very narrow at tornus.
legs banded red (can appear black in fieldshots.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc3/84080001.html
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201379
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201383
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...riMUpUnAc1.jpg
3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/229699902
Matapa druna.
HW cilia broader and more orangey yellow than FW.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...405_237093.jpg
M. aria cilia of both wings of nearly similar tone.
https://pictureinsect.com/image-hand...ge/format,webp
4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/229699896
Isma bononia.
Underside olivaceous/ochreous.
Abdomen not banded.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...5835/large.jpg
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847175474
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847175492
I. bononoides.
Underside rusty-scaled; Abdomen banded.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847175505
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847175499
5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/229699901
Likely to be Pyroneura latoia.
There is a faint streak in space 5 on the FW.
P. latoia always have this opalescent streak (variable).
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0042f891_c.jpg
In P. derna it is always absent.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0171.JPG
TL Seow; Cheers.
Hi Dr. Seow, thanks for the previous IDs. Can you help with these ones too?
1. Papilio iswaroides? - Genting highlands at elevation 1500m
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/283922180
2. Neptis? - Bukit Tinggi
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/288972507
3. Hyarotis iadera? - Bukit Tinggi
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/288972514
4. Baoris? - Bukit Tinggi
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/288972515
5. Pelopidas assamensis? - Bukit Tinggi
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/277339947
P65
1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/283922180
This should be correct as P. iswaroides female.
I do not have an image of a female P. iswaroides for comparison.
Judging from the more prominent pale FW stripes this should be a female.
p. iswaroides is redaily Ided by the underside with a lack of most of the submarginal red lunules except for the two at the tornus.
p. iswaroides All males.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847250393
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3455867660
P. helenus
Males.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847250404
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/5166780045
Females with more UpH red lunules.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4863534381
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4921952841
P65
2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/288972507
Rather worn but look correct as Neptis nata.
Neptis nata.
Ground tend to be darker.
Submarginal spots at FW apex more bend in.
Postdiscal spots well spaced and two subapical spots nearer in size.
Underside HW discal band may not reach the costa fully .
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720190020.html
Neptis clinia.
Similar but ground brownish and often sullied.
Submarginals at FW apex less bent.
Upper subapical spot always larger.
unH discal band always fully reaching the costa.
UpH may have a white spot at the base of space 3 as part of the discal band.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720120020.html
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ia-susruta.jpg
P65
3.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/288972514
Baoris probably B. farri.
4. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/288972515
Baoris probably B. oceia.
Baoris . Underside colour uniform brown on both wings.
Veins on HW often raised and prominent.
May have apale vague patch at cellend.
FW spots rather small and obscure in the male.
Antennae more or less black.
The two species are stated to be separable only by genitalia dissection.
At a guess the darker one is B. oceia
B. farri India.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...002_021556.jpg
Probable b. oceia ,Singapore.
B. oceia is more likely to have reduced spots.
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...ift---Khew.jpg
https://www.besgroup.org/wp-content/...d-dropping.jpg
P. penincillata which often have little spotting is found only in Kedawi.
Hayrotis iadera is rather dark, the antenna with a white spot at the bend not the tip. Also no FW spot.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847177113
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/5167840494
P65.
5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/277339947
Pelopidas female ,likely P. agna.
P. mathias underside grey tinged and have a dirty look.
Female.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...S_adult_01.jpg
Pelopidas agna.
Underside not grey-tinged and have a clean look.
Female.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...SwiftF-KSK.jpg
Pelopidas assamensis.
This is very large and roughly twice the size of P. mathias/agna.
All spots white, large on the FW, the subapical spots nearly straight.
Antennae with a broad white band.
https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Pelopidas-assamensis
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...56/medium.jpeg
Female.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict15c/93130001_n002.jpg
There is an error image in the BC checklist which may have confuse you.
TL Seow: Cheers.
Thanks so much for previous IDs, appreciate it if you could help with these too. All from Pahang.
1. Quedara singularis?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294828315
2. Potanthus?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294828310
3.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294828298
4. Pyroneura?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294828304
5. Tagiades?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294828307
Post 70.
1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294828315
Female Quedara monteithi.
The females of Q. singularis and monteithi only differs slightly.
In Q. singularis the FW cellspot (part of the band) is wider and rectangular.
In Q. monteithi the FW cellspot is squarish.
2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294828310
Too blur to ID properly but it does looks like P. serina.
3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294828298
The underside view is difficult to deduce.
Looking at the larger FW bluish patch, Pratapa deva looks a better match.
See female from Ranong.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4h/8h020020.html
Compare.(Note female ssp blanka have deeper blue.)
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/A...lanka_minturna
4.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294828304
Probably Pyroneura flavia.
Three species with the veins broadly scaled orange can look very similar.
P. helena and natuna are very similar and were once classed as one species.
They both a an opalescent streak in space 5 on the FW.
P. helena.
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...oneura-helena/
P. natuna.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0103.JPG
https://nlliew66butterflies.blogspot...uhstorfer.html
P. flavia is very similar but FW lacks the opalescent streak in space 5 in the male, weakly so in the female.
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...oneura-flavia/
This individual lacks the whitish opalescent streak on the FW.
5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/294828307
Darpa striata.
The darkly shaded UnH and the heavy FW spotting are that of Darpa.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90600001.html
TL Seow: Cheers.
Hello Dr. Seow, can ID these butterflies please? All from Bukit Tinggi.
1. Amathusia friderici?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297877885
2. Isma?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297877892
3. Arhopala?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297877898
4. Arhopala?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297877902
5. Arhopala muta?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297877903
Post 72
1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297877885.
This is one of those intriquing problematic case.
Attachment 28865
The main problem is thec difference between A. phidippus and A. friderici.
Both would have become common; A. phidippus hostplant Coconut, and A. friderici hostplant Oilpalm.
The important thing to look for is in the 4th dark band.
1. A. phidippus typically have the 4th dark band usually wider than the 3rd band.
The band tapers upward reaching the costa without rounding off.
The sides are typically intact and regular, barely notched.
The upperside in the male is typically dull and diffusely marked.
Typical examples.
https://www.gbif.org/pl/occurrence/2847204969
https://www.gbif.org/pl/occurrence/2847204929
https://www.gbif.org/pl/occurrence/1668902277
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nzbear5/7476159932
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...lson%20Ong.jpg
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...20SimonSng.jpg
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...hael%20Lim.jpg
2. Amathusia friderici.
In the normal form the male is more cotrasted orange on the upperside.
UnH 4th band typically narrow and variably notched by the veins on the side.
Often the upper head end is rouned off from the costa.
Typical examples.
https://www.gbif.org/pl/occurrence/2847204545
Dark form
https://www.gbif.org/pl/occurrence/2847204977
Singapore.
https://www.gbif.org/pl/occurrence/3988606195
A. friderici is stated to have bicolored hair tufts, upper hairs dark and lower hair buff.
It is very difficult to determine this in photos and very confusing.
It is also possible the reference text have got this in reverse ie, upper should be buff, and lower ones dark.
Tentative ID.A. friderici based on upperside more orange colour and UnH 4th band upper end more rounded off.
P72 2.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297877892
Isma bononia.
The two species are very similar and separated by the ground colour.
Isma bononia.
UnH ochreous brown.
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/isma-bononia/
Isma bononoides.
UnH deeper brown.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3665/8...acc7e087_c.jpg
P72
3.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297877898
Arhopala zambra.
Large species with the markings well spread.
FW spot 9 at the top of the band as wide as the rest.
Costal spot 10 above the cellend bar and as wide as it.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847202965
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4133661629
4.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297877902
Arhopala eumolphus.
FW spot 4 dislocated outwards.
HW spot 7 atop stop 6 ,margins sinuous.
HW metamark consist of 2 tapering bands joined ,like a pennant.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200714
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1986524423
5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297877903
Arhopala muta or moorei.
The males of the two can only be separated by the uppersides.
A. moorei have both wings the same blue.
In A muta male, the HW is lighter but not to the extent of A. metamuta.
TL Seow: Cheers.
Thanks for the previous IDs and the helpful drawing. Could you help with these? Again, all seen at Bukit Tinggi.
1. Deramas?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/298639735
2. Koruthaialos frena?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/298639165
3. Allotinus portunus?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/298639164
4. Allotinus? - Ok if can’t ID, I understand it’s a bad picture.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/298639159
5. Neptis sedata?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/298639169
Post 76.
1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/298639735
A bit worn.
Probably correct as Deramas jasoda.
Criteria needed.
1. Black tornal spot without an orange patch or crown.
2. Wing margins not checquered.
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/deramas-jasoda/
2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/298639165
Koruthaialos frena.
As described by Eliot.
Larger than K. sindu, broader orange band.
Note K. sindu typically have a mid margin notch of the outer border.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91530001.html
3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/298639164
Allotinus sarrastes. Correction: Allotinus portunus.
Criteria.
1. HW postdiscal spot 6 is in an arc with 2 - 5.
2. Submarginal spots more strongly black and white.
3. FW postdiscal spots dislocated in the middle (vein 4) and set nearer the termen(outer margin ) at the bottom
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc2/80360001.html
https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Allotinus-sarrastes
Similar.
A. portunus.
1. HW spot 6 as in A sarrastes.
2. Submarginal spots not black and white or weakly in the female.
3. FW postdiscal spots not dislocated and parallel to the outer margin.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc2/80370010.html
4.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/298639159
Allotinus substrigosus.
Note.
1 White streak at FW apex.
2. Prominent HW spot 7 (black).
3. Ground colour greyish white.
Similar.
A. davidis Ground colur pale buff ie very light yellowish.
5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/298639169
Neptis sedata. Correction: Neptis leucoporos.
Ground colour darker, black.
FW postdiscal spot 3 (highest) almost touching the crescent submarginal spot...diagnostic.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720130001.html
Similar.
N. nata .Note FW postdiscal spot 3 not near the submarginal spot.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720190020.html
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...fcf7523f-1.jpg
TL Seow: Cheers.
3.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/298639164
Correction: Allotinus portunus.
Allotinus portunus.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203195
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203188
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203190
Allotinus sarrastes.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847202778
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847202747
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847202748
TL Seow: Cheers.
Post 76.
5. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/298639169
Neptis leucoporos.
Neptis sedata and leucoporos practically have identical marking.
They both have FW postdiscal spot 3 shifted out and close to the adjacent submarginal spot.
The lowest postdiscal spot on the FW lower margin is also very small.
Neptis have a white band across the abdomen connecting the discal bands on the HWs.
There is trace of this white band on the abdomen here.
Examples of N. leucoporos.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/4901859249
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2423078258
Neptis sedata is very dark or black and the abdomen will show no trace of any white mark.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720130001.html
TL Seow: Cheers.
Thanks sir, very happy to see some of my pictures are rare ones. Could ID these? From Bukit Tinggi.
1. Pyroneura derna?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297877907
2. Arhopala?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297877900
3. Neptis?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/298678705
4. Neptis sedata?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/297880051
5. Halpe flava?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/288973340