ID request

Post 86. no 5.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302551844

Correction: Pithauria marsena.

The UpF twin large cellspots and dark ground is very consistent with the male P. marsena.
The UpF of both males of P. murdava & stramineipennis have consistently small twin cellspots.

P. marsena is very variable on the underside and may even have no white marks.
eg.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362373
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362441
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362524
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362239
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362171


TL Seow: Cheers.

Thanks, I learned something new about Pithauria. Can do these too? From Fraser’s.
1. Prosotas pia?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302551854
2. Telicota hilda?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302551862
3. Udara?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302551883
4. Miletus?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302551898
5. Choaspes?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302551899

Post 92.

1. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302551854
This does look correct for Prosotas pia.
The picture quality is too poor for proper identification.

Three species can be very similar.

Prosotas nora.
In general the HW marginal and submarginal spots are of equal in dark intensity .
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200166
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847202934


Prosotas pia is very similar.
In general the submarginal spots tend to fade off more than the marginal spots.
This is more noticeable on the HW.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847202831
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847202875


Prosotas bhutea is very similar to P. pia.
The marginal and submarginal spots are always faded.
The postdiscal spots UnF have more rounded sides.
UnF postdiscal band does extent into space 1b.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203313
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203265


Your pic have the FW raised high enough to show the postdiscal band continued into space 1b.
This immediately ruled out P. bhutea.
It does look correct as Prosotas pia.

Post 92.
2.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302551862
Telicota ohara.


Telicota ohara.
UpF space 2 base black.
Male brand very thin ,narrow lying beside the orange discal band.
Unh band inner margin almost level ie straight, without the undulations and bumps in the other species.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362177
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2456362277
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847177171
Fieldshots. Note shape of HW band.
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...1-1080x720.jpg
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/DSC_0008.JPG
https://wingscales.com/media/2400/6792-1-0aeb5.jpg


Telicota hilda.
Male with base of space 2 black.
Male brand relatively broad in middle of black space.
UnH ground darktinged.
HW band inner margin undulat, veins dark-dusted.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847177152

Post 92
3.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302551883
Most likely Udara camenae.

The individual have no submarginal spots.
However the state of the FW postdiscal band is not visible.

Udara species in which the submarginal spots are absent.
Attachment 28894
They are divided into two groups.

A. FW with the postdiscal spots aligned somewhat irregularly about parallel to termen, & spot 9 far apart..

A1.Udara camenae.
HW postdiscal spot 7 larger and much darker than the other postdiscal spots.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200844
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200803

A2. Udara albocaerulea.
UnH postdiscal spot 7 no darker than the other postdiscal spots.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200855
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200870



B. UnF with the postdiscal spots arranged regularly, mostly] in an arc, almost end to end.

B1. Udara akasa.
UnH w2ith postdiscal spot 7 larger and slightly darker than spot 6.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200893
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847201840


B2 Udara toxopeusi.
UnH with postdiscal spot 7 smaller than spot 6 and of the same dark tone.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847200187
https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simp...3efd738c0f7f37

Post 92.
4.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302551898
Too difficult.
The whitish diffusion at the FW cellend is usually indicative a white band,
Probably M. biggsi or gopara.


5.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302551899
Long tail and the HW triangular foldsshow only a little black deep wiyhin.
Choaspes stigmatus.

Attachment 28895
C. benjaminii is short-tailed and the black within the Hw folds is small.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...1/original.jpg

C stigmatus is longtailed and the black patch within the folds is also small.
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...stigmatus2.jpg

C. subcaudatus is long-tailed but the black area in the folds is large.
https://ze-ph.sakura.ne.jp/zeph-blog/files/091229zb.jpg


TL Seow: Cheers.

Thanks again sir. Appreciate it if you could review last batch from Fraser’s.
1. Neptis soma?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520902
2. Poritia pleurata - this one taken from the foothills
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520991
3. Oriens goloides?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/303692954
4. Neptis clinia?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/303692965
5. Potanthus mingo?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/303692968

Post 97.
1.https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520902
Neptis nata.

Similar looking to N. sedata.

Neptis nata.
FW postdiscal spots well spaced.
Fw submarginal slightly bend in at apex.
HW discal band of uniform width.
FW submarginal spot 3 faded out or obsolete.
Attachment 28896
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847204714


Neptis soma.
Spots tend to larger.
FW submarginal spots strongly bend in at apex.
FW submarginal spot 3 not faded.
HW discal band widens upwards.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847204825
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847204739

Post 07.
2. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/302520991
Poritia phama.


The four similar species are.
Attachment 28898
Poritia hewitsoni.
This is the most widespread and variable species.
the border of the green patch in space 2 falls perpendicular to vein 2.
Extra spots are common and a black spot in space 1b often present.
HW cell partially green
Thailand.
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/P...iMFUpUnAC1.jpg
https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Po...tsoni-tavoyana
India.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F..._hewitsoni.jpg



Poritia phama.
The shape of the markings are as ofr hewitsoni.
The green is more exyensive, filling the FW cell.
Eliotr state the FW have no black spot in space 1b.

Many authorities eg Yukata have considered this merely a form of P. hewitsoni.
I have no idea if any molecular analysis was done.
They certainly can be very similar and intermediate forms are many.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199492
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199127
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847199511
This is a fine observation below.
https://inaturalist.nz/observations/104629813


The next two lacks extra spots.

P. promula.
FW and HW cells are green.
On the FW the border of the green slope downwards instead of being perpendicular.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203504
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847203484



P. pleurata is very rare.
There are no museum specimen, or correct observation
FW with reduced green area and a black streak on vein b and the cubitus.

Post 97
3. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/303692954
Oriens gola.


Oriens goloides have darkened veins on both sides.
https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2847176511
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict15c/92630001_n002.jpg