https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4315/...5ff70a9a_c.jpg
Arhopala sp. - Doi Pomuen, Chiang Mai, 1800 mt, March
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8744/...c9bc8e8e_c.jpg
Arhopala sp. - Doi Suthep, Chiang Mai, 500 mt, March
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4315/...5ff70a9a_c.jpg
Arhopala sp. - Doi Pomuen, Chiang Mai, 1800 mt, March
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8744/...c9bc8e8e_c.jpg
Arhopala sp. - Doi Suthep, Chiang Mai, 500 mt, March
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5514/...ed32a677_c.jpg
Arhopala sp. - Koh Phangan, South Thailand, June
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2902/...2efd2a2c_c.jpg
Arhopala sp. - Betong, South Thailand, July
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5577/...9e747393_c.jpg
Arhopala cfr. muta Betong, South Thailand July
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/341/1...4deca7bb_c.jpg
Arhopala sp. Khao Ramrome, Peninsular Thailand, 950 mt, May
Second one has been identified before :)
http://www.butterflycircle.com/showt...ht=#post129183
Ooops... a huge mass of pictures still on the way to be processed and some mistakes now and then... :bsmile: :bsmile:
Post 1.
1 This does match A. asopia but it is hard to be certain with only one comparison.
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/A...iaMUpUnAC1.jpg
2. Already IDed as A. agaba.
Post 2.
1. Aberration with distorted & reduced spots.
HW position of postdiscal spots 6 & 7 plus the tail indicate A. atosia or lurida.
Well contrasted markings suggest A. lurida.
2. Should be a more typical A. lurida.
A. atosia typical examples from Singapore & Malaya .
Markings pale poorly contrasted ;HW postdiscal spots 4 & 5 out of alignment.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._atosia_01.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_0EK80AsaR7...rhopala-sp.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4H6m8Oqiz7...0/DSC_0156.JPG
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...naMUpUnAC1.jpg
A. lurida; markings better contrasted ;HW postdiscal spots 4 & 5 better aligned.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DM8PBWShjY...ala+lurida.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RsKPooOdJp...rida+(TBC).jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arhopa...daMUpUnAC1.jpg
3. Probably A. zylda.
Tailless, no tooth. HW postdiscal band only partially dislocated at vein 2.
This keyed as either A. zylda or stubbsi, but in A. stubbsi the dislocation appears very slight.
4. The FW is raised & postdiscal spot 2 & 3 are well out of line ; HW postdiscal band dislocated completely at vein 2.
Either A. muta or moorei.
TL Seow: Cheers.
Thank you Dr. Seow for your invaluable help.
I will have to post soon more Arhopala to ID or confirm, hoping do not disturb you too much.
:cheers:
Post 2. no. 3. is likely Arhopala antimuta.
HW postdiscal spot 7 appears to be a bit farther to the inside of spot 6, but this is often seen in A. antimuta.
https://www.thaibutterflies.com/wp-c...a-1080x725.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._HoraceTan.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...imuta_Chng.jpg
http://www.phuketnaturetours.com/Pag...20Kraburi%20NP
The position of HW spot 6 & 7 in A. zylda should be like this example of A. epimuta, ie. spot 7 more distinctly set further in.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._Horace_02.jpg
TL Seow: Cheers.
First one is Arhopala paralea; the shape of the post-discal bands matches better especially at the lowermost part. Also the colour within the bands contrasts with the purplish ground colour in paralea whereas in asopia they are both more or less the same shade of brown
Thanks Aaron :)
It is unfortunate the set specimen in the link is mis-labelled as A. ascopia.
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/A...iaMUpUnAC1.jpg
A. ascopia is tailless. fig 50 -51.
http://archive.org/stream/illustrati...e/n38/mode/1up
Agreed it is likely A. paralea though the green scalings are more prominent here.
Amazingly this below is labelled as A. paralea.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/monsoo...7623219761418/
TL Seow: Cheers.
Post 2 No. 3. Likely Arhopala zylda (Oops!)
There are two features which rules out A. antimuta.
1. A. antimuta have HW postdiscal spot 6 either midway between spot 5 & cellend bar or only somewhat nearer spot 5.
In contrast in A. zylda spot 6 is much nearer spot 5 as in A. major.
2 (less important) Most examples of A. antimuta have HW spot 7 angled outwards.
TL Seow: Cheers.
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2902/...2efd2a2c_c.jpg
Arhopala sp. - Betong (Yala), July 2014
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8657/...2fe2f9f1_c.jpg
Arhopala sp. Krabi, February 2015
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8550/...cae682f2_c.jpg
Arhopala cfr. major - Kaeng Krachan April 2013
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8380/...66551d30_c.jpg
Arhopala sp. - Koh Phangan March 2013
Dr. Seow, for your information. I've found a good picture of a proper Arhopala asopia, from Inayoshi Yutaka:
http://i63.tinypic.com/mwaa0i.jpg
female - © Inayoshi Yutaka
http://i68.tinypic.com/1586x01.jpg
female - © Inayoshi Yutaka
http://i64.tinypic.com/2dv27vq.jpg
male - © Inayoshi Yutaka
http://i66.tinypic.com/ddi16p.jpg
male - © Inayoshi Yutaka
Post 12.
1 .ID'eed before as A. ariana.
2. 2 & 3 are the same species.
The fat V spot in space 1b suggest A. moolaiana but this species is large with very convex FWs & a white tornal cilial spot (sometimes difficult to see).
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_i...oolaiana.v.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zIwkuU8klC...+moolaiana.jpg
It is either A. amphimuta or major. I think amphimuta.
A. amphimuta ;V spot with equal arms; may be fat; HW postdiscla band usually less dislocated at vein 4.
Singapore.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-J9Xmngyim6...+amphimuta.jpg
Thailand Note HW potdiscal band is noticeably dislocated at v. 4 as in major.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arhopa...naMUpUnAC1.jpg
A. major HW V spot narrow, with longer lower arm or often distorted in shape; HW postdiscal band always strongly dislocated at vein 4.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xkuMajucBn...jor+(male).jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...orMUpUnAC1.jpg
4. Arhopala ariana. FW with costal spots 11 & 12; FW postdiscal spot 4 slightly shifted out. HW V spot distinctive.
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_i...na/male.rv.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arhopa...naMUpUnAC1.jpg
TL Seow: Cheers.
BTW, Thanks for the pix of Arhopala ascopia.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4407/...e8d7ac00_c.jpg
Unidentified Arhopala - Krung Ching, South Thailand, July 2017
It's Arhopala agesilaus gesa. Like the amphimuta group except for the placement of spot 6 on the hindwing
Agreed it is A. agesilaus.
A clearer example with HW spot 6 neatly between spot 5 & the cellend bar.
https://www.thaibutterflies.com/Butt...ala-agesilaus/
TL Seow: Cheers.
Thank you Aaron and Dr. Seow!
One more, from the same location:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4370/...c84a2a56_c.jpg
Unidentified Arhopala
Arhopala arvina adalitas. The post-discal band on the hindwing is slightly dislocated and shifted outwards in space 4
It is actually A. antimuta.
The HW postdiscal band is completely dislocated at vein 2.
https://www.thaibutterflies.com/wp-c...a-1080x725.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._HoraceTan.jpg
A. arvina.
HW postdiscal band only slightly or partially dislocated at vein 2; purple wash.
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/A...oeFUpUnAC1.jpg
https://www.thaibutterflies.com/wp-c...a-1080x675.jpg
https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Arhopala-arvina-aboe
TL Seow: Cheers.
Wow, thanks Dr Seow. Didn't occur to me that this could have been an amphimuta group species
Thank you again!! :cheers:
One more... again antimuta?
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4344/...9f25807c_c.jpg
Arhopala antimuta antimuta - updated
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4431/...77ec5f6f_c.jpg
Arhopala evansi - updated
Post 22.
1 is Arhopala antimuta.
2. is Arhopala evansi.
This is a member of the alea subgroup, normally very difficult to ID.
A evansi however, have a slatey (greyish) glaze with a slight pinkish flush.
This cause the markings to be better contrasted ie stand out.
The FW fortunately is raised high enough to show postdiscal spot 2 & 3 are larger & wider than the spots above them, a useful feature.
An example of A. evansi from Langkawi by Federick.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-U0frSBVwK-...ala+evansi.jpg
TL Seow: Cheers.
Thank you again! One more, from Betong (Yala) very close to the Malayan border.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4357/...d101d417_c.jpg
Arhopala sp.
Arhopala vihara vihara from the lack of any costal spots on the forewing and the rounded spot in space 6 on the hindwing
Concur it is A. vihara.
A set specimen for comparison.
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/A...raMUpUnAC1.jpg
TL Seow: Cheers.
Thank you!!! :cheers:
The last two unidentified, this time from Thale Ban National Park, close to the Malayan border of Perlis, an interesting and not well known area in both sides of the border.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4390/...8aa7ee13_c.jpg
Arhopala sp. - Medium size
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4393/...3a710ce5_c.jpg
Arhopala sp. - Large size
First one is Arhopala silhetensis adorea from the shape of the spot in space 6
Second is an alea subgroup species, probably A. phaenops sandakani
Post 27. sizes in error.
1. Arhopala silhetensis is right.
2, should be Arhopala selta.Male ;short palpi & truncated abdominal end.
This pic is in perfect profile & the FW termen is very rounded.
Only two species in the alea subgroup have the termen rounded, the other being A. aroa which have the submarginal & postdiscal band well-spaced out.
In addition A. selta have HW spot 6 widely or distinctly overlapping the cellend bar.
The FW postdiscal band also tends to be wide.
https://www.thaibutterflies.com/wp-c...a-1080x675.jpg
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arhopa...e:Arhopala.jpg
In A. phaenops, FW termen is straigth in the middle part. HW spot 6 do not or just overlap cellend bar.
FW shape is distorted here .Upperside narrow border indicate it is A. phaenops. Correction :Upperside shot is not the same individual.
https://www.thaibutterflies.com/wp-c...s-1080x675.jpg
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_i...phaenops.r.jpg
TL Seow: Cheers.
A partial upperside of the second could be of some help?
http://i67.tinypic.com/2isjww2.jpg
Post 30.
If this is the upperside of the individual in post 27 ,then it is a female.
This make it very confusing.
The upperside of the male.
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_i.../upperside.jpg
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arhopa...9_1_Knight.png
Male A. phaenops with narrow FW border.
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/A...96MUpUnAC1.jpg
It could be either A. selta or phaenops.
TL Seow: Cheers.
Based on the dorsal, it's female and best matches A. phanda phanda but the shape of spot 6 is inconsistent with what's stated in C&P4 for this species
Thank you for the hard research. BTW the specimen photographed by Les and ID as Arhopala phaenops come from the very same place of mine.
It is definitely not A. phanda.
I have seen several set specimens of A. phanda from Liew of Raub.
The HW spot 6 & 7 are quadrate & nearly equal & they form a vertical column: FW band broad & costal spot 10 absent.
The alea subgroup is particularly confusing.
For example what have been ID'ed as A. phaenops also look very similar to A. sublustris.
Numerous misID'ed occur on the net.
http://ojiimushi.web.fc2.com/langkaw...s/photo017.htm
http://ojiimushi.web.fc2.com/langkaw...s/photo018.htm
The upperside unfortunatelly shows a female.However the FW border is parallel to the termen so possible are selta, phaenops, phanda, & normani.
Shape of HW spot 6 & 7 exclude selta & phaenops.
It is close to phanda but spot 7 is a bit small.
It resembles A. normani in Fleming's L212 image.
http://ojiimushi.web.fc2.com/langkaw...s/photo039.htm
http://ojiimushi.web.fc2.com/langkaw...s/photo040.htm
Upperside FW with narrow border; HW space 7 purple to the termen, thus excluding selta & phaenops (mostly brown to termen)
HW spot 6 is somewhat quadrate suggesting A. normani, but could also be a variant of sublustris / milleri.
The upperside appear to be indigo blue, suggesting milleri, but the colouration on the website are all too dark.
Even ID'ing set specimens present great difficulties.
Lastly there is a possibility that the individual in post 27 & post 30 are not the same as the palpi are of different lenght.
TL Seow : Cheers.
Nevermind that because i just realised most of the females have similar dorsals so that's not reliable.Quote:
Originally Posted by atronox
I'm having difficulty interpreting spots 6 and 7 for many spp. because there are many inconsistencies in different specimens of what are supposedly the same species. Maybe they're naturally variable or hybridise often so that makes them impossible to ID solely on external features
An UFO Arhopala from Ranong Hot Spring, South Thailand:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4531/...10d024d7_c.jpg
Arhopala sp.
Post 36.
It is a female (long palpi) A. atosia with the tail broken.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._atosia_01.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TQqlnu16fF...0/DSC_0136.JPG
TL Seow: Cheers.
Thank you Dr. Seow! :cheers:
Chiang Dao, North Thailand, April 2018, medium size
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/786/2...169ddb95_c.jpg
Arhopala sp.
Post 39.
Should be Female Arhopala aurelia.
This keyed out as a member of the alea subgroup;FW band intact; costal spot 10. HW postdiscal band completely dislocated at vein 2.
The underside is purple -washed.
This and A agaba can be very similar & were confused in the past.
A. aurelia ;HW spot 5 & cellend bar usually separated, but may be close . HW postdiscal band completely detached at vein 2; apical areas of both wings without white shading;HW submarginal spots blurred out.
FW postdiscal band margins regular.
https://plus.google.com/photos/10422...03709593223906
A. agaba;HW spot 5 & cellend bar usually very close, touching or fused together; HW postdiscal band not fully detached at vein 2 (sometimes does); apical areas of FW & HW white shaded;HW submarginal spots fairly clear.
FW postdiscal band margins irregular.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arhopa...baMUpUnAC1.jpg
https://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Arhopala-agaba
Example in which the HW postdiscal band is completely dislocated at vein 2, but all other features are of A. agaba.Note white shadings at apical areas of wings.
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/inse...arhopalaagaba/
TL Seow: Cheers.