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Cruiser
23-Oct-2023, 12:44 PM
Hi Dr. Seow,

Will need your help to identify this newly emerged skipper, shot in Singapore.

BR.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53279077995_7215dced0e_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2pb6cF2)
Skipper ID request (https://flic.kr/p/2pb6cF2) by ben jin tan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/187324739@N02/), on Flickr

Psyche
23-Oct-2023, 09:35 PM
Should be male Telicota besta male.

Despit there being only 4 species in Singapore the Ids can very cofusing.

Since it is a male an upperside shot of the brand would be a definitive ID.

Two species can be immediately eliminated.

T. colon male.
FW with spots 4 & 5 staggered out from spot 3.
Upperside with long veinstripes.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48573471016_807f2be223_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48573622507_ebba4bcc47_b.jpg

T linna . male.
underside with the veins not dark-dusted across the bands.
Underparts noticeably paler.
Ground dull ochreous brown & dusky.
Brand narrow in the middle of black space.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/254946520/large.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-79Gj7N-1GXc/Vz1Td5Ld2HI/AAAAAAAAmR4/95Ux0hx6rvQBix7nmXm2PYZenG8olIQ2wCLcB/s1600/TL_male_01.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qDEk4MIq_7Y/Vz1fLcMFHjI/AAAAAAAAmUA/i3pASYZomYsQt82Qg10lMbyNBvB3lzhogCLcB/s1600/TL_male_05.jpg



The difficulty is the confusion with these two.

Telicota augias.
More uniformly orange often deep.
UnH veins scross band not dark dusted
Male brand large nearly filling black space.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Hp7OPF_eJ6Q/U6ZQMNh6IkI/AAAAAAAAOPs/KFaTN4_wis4/s1600/HFH_2956-Palm-Dart-(Telicota-augias-augias).jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5336/9950853134_aaff7fdc56_b.jpg
https://static.inaturalist.org/photos/153835733/large.jpg
Same individual showing upperside.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6riT3uzrel0/VgoXg6gugdI/AAAAAAAABhk/BmQspbMAvkk/s1600/Telicota%2Baugias_male_1.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-y3LkExqbZs8/VgoXg4gxecI/AAAAAAAABhk/g-Exi9WYzh8/s1600/Telicota%2Baugias_male_2.jpg


Telicota besta male.
Underside veins often strongly raised & lightly dark dusted.
Body hair duskier.
Uperside brand placed close to the inner margin of the black space.
https://www.deviantart.com/log1t3ch/art/Telicota-besta-bina-I-108377226
Same individual showing upperside brand.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NbpYa8XexNw/VJQtyK97NHI/AAAAAAAASl0/i77WR2aduOU/s1600/DSC_0294.JPG
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-n_yvZvniiOM/VJQtyNZmRuI/AAAAAAAASl4/IEKfYylJ0jU/s1600/DSC_0303.JPG


The cat's two spots are male gonads. The anal black patch may be variable.


TL Seow: Cheers.
Note the two images of T. augias in the checklist should be T. besta males.

Cruiser
23-Oct-2023, 11:01 PM
Hi Dr. Seow,

Many thanks for your time and detailed explanation.

Cheers!