Moth ID trend

[Zicky]

Hi doctor Seow,

I was scrolling through the moth trend and realise there are some valuable information here, which i've decided to also try out at some moth's ID since we have such amazing diversity in Singapore! If you up to the challenge i am willing to photograph some moths as usual. It is alright if you cant give definite answer, but i wish to challenge my current(and limited) moth knowledge

Starting with a simple one, i will be asking for burnet moth family moth here

1 - Boradiopsis harmani. I initially ID this as Boradiopsis harmani, since the official Singapore biodiversity website https://singapore.biodiversity.online/species/A-Arth-Hexa-Lepidoptera-000674 publish this as the only species. After consulting some people from the area, i was inform the moth info is however extremely understudied, and there are suggestions it is possible other species about. Here i present two individual, found in the shaded forest of mandai, nearby one another
Here is my inat links - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/135102065 and https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/135102066
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2 - Burnet moth family. I could only reach this conclusion after suggestions from Inat and my own guesses. I realise the burnet moth family have a somewhat shape,if u will, to it, like species from pompelon marginata, artona species and cyclosia species, like a triangle from a kids puzzle
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/125159945
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3 - thyrassia species. To the untrain eye i notice they would mistake this as a hubner wasp moth, amata hubneri. I do notice the wing have a extra white spot, the antenna isnt white tip, and there is a slight violet sheen, if you will. This species caterpillar feeds on leea indica, as many caterpillar hobbyist has raise it only in auccess on leea indica
inat links - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/119074621 , https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/118635973 and https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/108588455

Skipping regards!
Zicky

[Psyche]

Moths are just way too difficult.
I dont have the proper references to ID many of them.
There are several thousand species in Singapore alone.

However these Zygaenid moths are fascinating & I think I have their IDs.

1. Boradiopsis harmani.
There appear to be two species in our region.
The 2nd B. bipartita is not recorded from Singapore.


They are both very similar.

B. harmani Open plain area larger; FW marginal spots extend from apex down to the tornus (lower angle of the FW.)
B. bipartita; Open area smaller; FW marginal spots end about 1/3 from bottom.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/budak/51671970426/


2. Very likely Heteropan scintillans. Range India to Sundaland.
Pale grey with a dark margin & a powderly bluish iridescence.
In the image below the FWs are folded well in exposing the margins of the HWs.
Sri Lanka.
https://israel.inaturalist.org/observations/88830670#data_quality_assessment


3. Very likely Phacusa tenebrosa. Range India to S.E. Asia. Correction: Phacusa crawfurdi.
The spots match very well, including the broad brown lower marginal area.
The body is marked with thin gold lines.
http://v3.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=676913
http://v3.boldsystems.org/pics/DEPAL/TLMF-Lep28857%2B1612548758.jpg
http://v3.boldsystems.org/pics/ZYGMO/PPPh%23ten%23003%2B1418745516.jpg

Other similar species in our region. P. crawfurdi.
http://v3.boldsystems.org/pics/DEPAL/TLMF-Lep28847%2B1612548752.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phacusa_crawfurdi#/media/File:Phacusa_crawfurdi.jpg


Thyrassia species.
FW markings differ; Abdomen more gold banded.
Taxa penangae & refflesi are considered separate species.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyrassia_penangae


TL Seow: Cheers.

[Psyche]

Correction

3 is Phacusa crawfurdi. Range Sundaland ie. Sumatra, Malaya, Borneo & Java. Hostplant .Leea.

P. tenebrosa (continental Asia) & P. crawfurdi (Sundaland)were at first included as one species.
They are separated on genitalia ground.

P. crawfurdi from Moths of Borneo.
The FW pattern is identical.
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The previous images of P. crawfurdi may be inaccurate.

Laos. P. crawfurdi is likely not recorded in Laos.
http://v3.boldsystems.org/pics/DEPAL/TLMF-Lep28847%2B1612548752.jpg

Drawn image, unknown location. Red spots may be orange.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phacusa_crawfurdi#/media/File:Phacusa_crawfurdi.jpg


TL Seow: Cheers.

[Zicky]

Thank you so much Doctor Seow!

I will still keep trying to shoot moth and ID them on my own, while i do not have any moth reference book, i will try my best to ID! Appreciate for the generous knowledge sharing! There are indeed too many moths, and too little people shooting it in Singapore however. Got to take every opportunity to learn!

Regards
Zicky

[Zicky]

Hi doctor Seow,

Ive shot a few other moths since they kind of flutter around as butterflies as well, and i challenge myself making some IDs here. I would like to seek ur advice, but shall u think its insufficient, i am more than happy to have it left as a genus ID, since i dont think i will be dissecting moths anytime soon. My reference are generally singapore publish articles and inat links, since i lack any moth reference book, which i will be buying soon(if you can recommend any titles i would appreciate it!). I refer to inat as well, even though the species suggestion isnt the best its at least a effort i can carry out

1 - Prosopandrophila distincta. My ID reach this conclusion base on a few past documents, such as https://lkcnhm.nus.edu.sg/app/uploads/2017/06/2009nis385-392.pdf and general ID on inaturalist. The caterpillar in the general ID observation feeds on the same plant as the pdf attach, which i induce which is why it is the species i suggested. Since i lack any of the moths reference books, this is my best attempt as such, from comparing pictures of physical specimens. This specimen is about the size of a general bushbrown, shot at seletar area
Inat link of my shot - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/135639118
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2 - Cyclosia macularia. This specimen was likely ran over by a bicycle at sembawang PCN, and was dead. I suspect the yellow stuff poking out are her eggs(how sad! she didnt manage to complete her lifecycle purpose). The glossy reflection of the wing scale is a nice colouration however, even in death. I refer to https://lkcnhm.nus.edu.sg/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/app/uploads/2017/06/2012nis151-158.pdf as my reference and general inat link
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/135350912
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3 - pseudosesia species. I couldnt find any information about pseudosesia species in Singapore, and i use to think they are part of the burnet moth family until i found out they are from Sesiidae family. Ive concluded these two fine specimen are males due to the coremata in one of the observation. I have shot a pseudosesia in the past before i am extremely interested in bugs, so i added a old photo of a potential female ive shot, which was also in the same area. A interesting note is that they seem to always appear at leea indica patches for the nectars and appears to also just rest around the area in general. However, i cant find any online articles about their lifecycle, and the australia article https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343697577_The_clearwing_moths_Lepidoptera_Sesiidae _of_Australia_New_Guinea_and_the_Pacific_Islands here, i am afraid it might be irrelevant
inat links - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/135639135 and https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/135639109
inat link for the possible female of the same species - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/118123724
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Skipping regards!
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 5.

1 & 2 are right.
If you dont have any references, here are a few.

Moths of Borneo covers about 75% of the macromoths in Singapore.
Zygaenidae is in vol. 2.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/
Addendum; It seem vol. 2 is not accessible on line. You have to purchase the hard copy.


Moths of Thailand Noctuidae vol. 3 ocvers 50% of the Noctuidae in Singapore.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/298792097_MothS_of_Thailand_Vol_Three_N_O_C_T_u_o_ i_d_e_a_An_illustrated_Catalogue_of_Erebidae_Nolid ae_Euteliidae_and_Noctuidae_Insecta_Lepidoptera_in _Thailand


Of the smaller moths, Pyralids of Borneo covers many of the Crambidae & the Thyrididae.
http://www.pyralidsofborneo.org/index.php?overview


I think the Sesiid is incorrect.
Try the BOLD (Barcode of Life Database)inventory.
https://v3.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=503

Without some clue you have to go through both subfamilies to tribe to genus & species.
eg tribe Paranthrenini.
https://v3.boldsystems.org/index.php/TaxBrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=1066647

It is too tedious.
Good luck.


TL Seow: Cheers.

[Zicky]

Thank you Doctor Seow!!!

Zicky

[Psyche]

As many moths in Singapore are wide-ranging Indo-Australian species these websites are worth bookmarking.

http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/moths.html

http://www.papua-insects.nl/insect%20orders/Lepidoptera/Lepidoptera%20families.htm

http://tai-herminiinae.blogspot.com/2014/05/blog-post_4558.html

Specific families.

Sphingidae
http://www.sphingidae-museum.com/database/index.php?gen=Acosmeryx&spec=anceus&subsp=
https://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/china.htm

Saturniidae.
http://wildsilkmoth-indonesia.com/pic_mala/malar.html


TL Seow: Cheers.

[Psyche]

This one have been identified by a moth specialist as Pseudosesia rufifinis.(rufifinis= red end.)
It is the same species ,but without the yellow patches on the thorax.
https://guatemala.inaturalist.org/observations/78287533


TL Seow: Cheers.
PS. The same specialist has named your current observation as just Pseudosesia ssp.
So it is best to leave it as such.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/118123724
PS2.
Walker's original description as Sannina rufifinis based on a male from Sarawak.
https://archive.org/details/journalofproceed06linn/page/82/mode/1up?view=theater
Kallies' uploaded images fig 161-162.(images labelled wrongly?). Possibly 160 is P. rufifinis, & 161,162 are T. andrepiclera.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/163-Appendix-Sesiidae-species-examined-but-not-present-in-the-Australian-region_fig9_343697577
PS3.
Based on this related species, the one with the yellow patches on the thorax is the female.
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/sesi/oberthuri.html
https://moths.csiro.au/pseudosesia-oberthuri-le-cerf-1916-2/

[Zicky]

Ah, i missed out the last post. Thank you so much doctor Seow for tbe elaborate explanations!

Skipping regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

I noted one of your observation is misIDed.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/136413206

This is Ugia disjungens.

Three species are very similar & easily confused, namely U. disjungens, Hypospila bolinoides, & Tochara creberrima.

Ugia disjungens.
FW postmedial slightly oblique,at the apex it curved out to the apical tip.
Discal spot is oblong or reniform (kidney-shaped).
Antemedial is crenate (scalloped).


Hypospila bolinoides.
FW postmedial about parallel to the margin, set deeper than in Tochara, ending at the costa.
Discal spot is rounded.
Antemedial is absent.


Tochara creberrima.
FW postmedial is parallel to the margin ,nearer to it than in H. bolinoides.,& ends on the costa.
Discal spot is reniform
Antemedial is absent.

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https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/miscellaneous_ii/miscellaneousii_1_1.php
https://wallace.biodiversity.online/species/A-Arth-Hexa-Lepidoptera-000011

https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/miscellaneous_iii/gallery.php



TL Seow: Cheers.

[Zicky]

Thank you Doctor Seow!

I will take note of the differences! The drawings help me soo much at understanding!

Regards
Zicky

[Zicky]

Dear Doctor Seow,

Another challenging ID i require some assistance and second opinions with. I was inform by the general community that this is a brunia species, but another user has challenge my current thoughts when photos of a similar looking species, Katha prabana, was shown to me. I know its extremely difficult to narrow by species, so if genus or family is the next best alternative, i am willing to take a look! These are all inat post since the photos have been archive, hope it doesn't cause any inconvenience.


This are the following observation by me. I will accept that theres a chance they are different species.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/136413222
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/118122190

But here lies two more challenging ones i need assistance with, and these are caterpillar only observations. Most Singapore reserves closes by 7pm and thus night surveys are hard to be conducted for moths survey. Here are two caterpillar which i notice are somewhat seen from time to time, but do not have proper identification. Both are IDed as Kunugia species, but i do not have access to any literature material that might be of proper ID records. Would like your second opinion here.
1-caterpillar with two red horn. No doubt it is a lappet moth, and overtime this has been ID'ed as Kunugia caterpillar.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/137035498

2-Massive caterpillar. Easily 10cm. Not has hairy nor furry but extremely big size.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=6734&taxon_id=124898

Skipping regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 13.

It is likely to be correct as Katha prabana.

The female of many lthosina are very similar & confusing.
Brunia antica occur in Hong Kong & Taiwan as the sole species in the genus.
Thus these are confirmed images.
https://www.inaturalist.org/guide_taxa/352227
http://dearlep.tw/species.html?namecode=343836

The females of Brunia antica & sarawaca are practically identical & it is uncertain if B. sarawaca is present since images of males taken in Singapore do not quite match .
https://www.zobodat.at/pdf/ENT_0038_0141-0176.pdf


Salient points.

Female of Brunia antica & sarawaca; Top of head & prothorax yellow.

Female of Katha prabana. Top of head & prothorax dark grey as the rest of the thorax.

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Taxon probana was first described as Eilema probana. later transfered to Katha & now to Dubatolova.

Katha probana male.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/6740796
Female.
http://v3.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=588636
Other examples of the male.
http://virtualcollections.naturalsciences.be/virtual-collections/entomology/lepidoptera/arctiidae/lithosiinae/eilema-prabana-celebesa-tams-1935-1
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/2-Adult-males-1-Dubatolova-prabana-Moore-comb-nov-2-Indiania-eccentropis_fig1_267642363


The main doubt is if the female Katha prabana seem rather common in Singapore, why is the male not being photographed.


I will leave caterpillars alone as there is very little literature to refer to.



TL Seow: Cheers.
PS Brunia antica is rare in Singapore.
Male & Female. (Probably forelegs should always be dark in antica .)
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/11320947/large.jpg
https://static.inaturalist.org/photos/21910050/large.jpeg

[Zicky]

Dear Doctor Seow,

Just one observation here. I shot this adorable green moth with very amazing camouflage. I narrowed down the genus to be eboda, i would like to hear your opinions or second opinion on this observation. Appreciate any form of inputs!

inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/138949689


Regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

There is hardly any literature on Eboda.
It is probably Eboda smaragdinana (= emerald-green) the most widespread species from Sri Lanka to PNG.


TL Seow: Cheers.

[Zicky]

no worries Doctor Seow,
Appreciate the help still!

Regards
Zicky

[Zicky]

Dear Doctor Seow,

i am browsing through inat and one genus of moth has gotten my attention due to its frequency of appearing in my favourite butterflying spots. This genus is Ischyja, which seems like a cute moth version of a archduke. I have notice inat and in the context of Singapore, there are 6 species, but i think the 4 which i think seems to be more credible are as follows
-Ischyja manlia (a example of Singapore, inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/131083611)
-Ischyja marapok (https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/3866489)
-Ischyja hemiphaea(https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/65329917)
-Ischyja inferna (https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/100292744)
-Ischyja manlioides (https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/109445389)

Would like to know if you have any literature that u can share about how to differentiate some of the species here, which i am keen to learn slowly! If there is none, ill still appreciate the insights i am able to get. Hoping whatever little literature on moths will assist in IDs and all

Thanks!
Skipping regards
Zicy

[Psyche]

Ischyja is an interesting genus of large moths.
There are at least seven species in Singapore.

The males can be Ided with some confidence but the females can be very confusing.
Note wingshape is not reliable in fieldshot ID,and it is hard to judge the HW blue band in partially covered shots.
I will follow Holloway's descriptive terms.
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I will start off with the three easiest.

1.Ischyja ferrifracta.
FW apex bisected by a pale ochreus wedge mark.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/miscellaneous_i/miscellaneousi_3_3.php
Female.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/3086050/large.jpg


2. Ischyja anna. Correction: The three images here are not exact images of MoB's I. anna. All 3 could be forms of the female I. marapok.
2nd Correction: All three images are actually females Ischyja anna.
FW light grey brown with dark lines forming the medial pattern.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/miscellaneous_i/miscellaneousi_3_1.php
Males.Correction :Females
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/199052367/original.jpeg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/198475460/large.jpeg
Female.
https://static.inaturalist.org/photos/218416517/large.jpg

Similar but not recorded in Singapore.
I. hageni ;FW loop mark ovate & marginal zone with veins darken.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/miscellaneous_i/miscellaneousi_3_2.php


3. Ischyja hemiphaea.
Male with a mid break of the boundary between the darker basal & the paler marginal zones, with 3 spots adjacent to it.
Female boundary well defined with pale edgings. Reniform spot rounded.
FW submarginal fascia prominent, dark contrasting & forming a large patch at the apical costa, its margin extending sharply to the tip
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/miscellaneous_i/miscellaneousi_3_10.php
Male.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/178293504/large.jpeg
Females.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/178571337/original.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/122319591/original.jpeg
Worn female.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/173370797/large.jpeg

[Psyche]

Ischyja inferna & manlioides.
HW blue band wide in both sexes.

I inferna.
Male reniform irregular & parallel to the boundary.
Loop mark with thin highlights & is separated from the reniform by a dark bar on its upper side.

I. manlioides.
Male with the irregular reniform merging with the broad highlight on the outer margin of the loop mark.


The females of the two are nearly identical.
Females with diffuse boundary & basal zone dark, the markings hardly visible.
Holloway states both sexes of I. manlioides have a better defined less diffuse boundary.



4. Ischyja inferna.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/miscellaneous_i/miscellaneousi_3_4.php
Males.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/167368435/large.jpeg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/134540513/large.jpeg
https://static.inaturalist.org/photos/100538901/large.jpeg
Females.Boundary diffuse throughout.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/112600647/large.jpeg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/132506370/large.jpeg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/105130745/original.jpeg


5. Ischyja manlioides.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/miscellaneous_i/miscellaneousi_3_5.php
Males.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/238470278/large.jpeg
https://static.inaturalist.org/photos/210742019/large.jpeg
https://static.inaturalist.org/photos/185456337/large.jpeg
variant.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/8592459/large.jpg
Females. Boundary sharper especially lower half.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/210289439/large.jpeg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/208422568/original.jpeg
https://static.inaturalist.org/photos/223019280/original.jpg

[Psyche]

Ischyja marapok & manlia.
Males with the reniform farther in & angled from the boundary.
Females with the orbicular & reniform spots usually highly visible.


5. Ischyja marapok.
In the male both spots ( reniform & orbicular) are interspersed with black marks & highlights, as is the upper ends of the loop mark.
Female with the boundary well-defined ,with pale edgings.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/miscellaneous_i/miscellaneousi_3_7.php
Males.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/138918939/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/55535566/large.jpg
Females.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/210318928/large.jpeg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/49972673/original.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/135743010/large.jpeg


7. Ischyja manlia.
Male with the orbicular & reniform not marked with black spots or highlights.
The loop mark is topped with a longitudinal black bar. ,sometimes with highlight.
Female with the boundary somewhat diffuse especially upper half.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/miscellaneous_i/miscellaneousi_3_6.php
Males.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/138918072/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/136045344/large.jpeg
Females.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/212683052/large.jpeg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/201891886/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/134558891/large.jpg



TL Seow: Cheers.

[Zicky]

Thank you Doctor Seow for the insightful explanation! Very detailed as well
Skipping regards
Zick

[Psyche]

The moth in this link is Arctornis singaporensis, a species which white with greenish veins.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/142270783

TL Seow: Cheers.

[Zicky]

Dear Doctor Seow

Akin to my previous skipper post, i also have some moth clarification for today. I have no clue for the moths so any suggestion will do

1 - inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/143999359

2 - Trichaetoides chloroleuca? or amata stellaris?
inat link -https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/142812129

Skipping regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 24.
Callopistria rivularis. Correction: Callopistria pulchrilinea.

This image gives a better view.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/247058994/large.jpg


Two species are rather similar.
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1. Callopistria rivularis.
FW submarginals sharply serrate.
Postmedial comes close to the submarginals.
Antemedial curved or rounded in the middle.
Reniform spot uniformly whitish.
http://dearlep.tw/species.html?namecode=422054
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/238_4916-151-5c23b5396ecb8-1.jpg
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/acro1/rivularis.html


2. Callopistria pulchrilinea.
FW submarginal more level & only lowest spot triangular.
Antemedial curved in the middle as in rivuiaris.
Reniform uniform whitish, may be enhanced white posteriorly.
http://www.jpmoth.org/Noctuidae/Eriopinae/Callopistria_pulchrilinea.html
https://taieol.tw/muse/digi_object/cfedc86b03b5dc7ff7914c2937e970d9


Others.
Callopistria maillardi.
Upper two submarginals less irregular, hardly dentate, the third with a sharp point.
Postmedial well separated from the submarginals.
Antemedial sharply angled in the upper third.
Reniform uniformly white.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callopistria_maillardi#/media/File:Callopistria_maillardi.jpg
http://dearlep.tw/species.html?namecode=346098&photo_id=4bd895cd0160dce6450c9d420712fd9f


Callopistria exotica
Antemedia angled in the lower third.
Reniform spot broadly enhanced white in the posterior part.
No white veins.
https://singapore.biodiversity.online/species/A-Arth-Hexa-Lepidoptera-000681

Callopistria repleta.
Antemedial angled in the lower third.
Reniform bilaterally enhanced white.
FW with white veins.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callopistria_repleta#/media/File:Callopistria_repleta.jpg
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/390_8806-199-5e72b0bce905f-1.jpg


Callopistria placodoides.
Submarginals linear.
Antemedial straight in the middle.
http://dearlep.tw/species.html?namecode=346102&photo_id=1dfa79360327b2eb1434853f614aafce


Callopistria trilineata.
Submarginals slightly irregular.
Postmedial very close to the submarginals.
Antemedial sharp angled in the middle.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/90_NOCTUOIDEA/05_NOCTUIDAE/11_ERIOPINAE/10_Callopistria/Callopistria%20trilineata/Callopistria%20trilineata.htm


https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/142812129
2. The markings are that of Canaeressa with several spots on the HW.
It is most likely this species.
The thorax have two whote spts & the abdomen have a series on the side ,as mentioned in the text.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-6/syntominae/syntominae-5-4.php


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[Psyche]

https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/143928533

Calletaera subexpressa.
Characteristic chevron marks near FW tornus.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Eutoeini/eutoeini_1_1.php
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/20505606/original.jpeg


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[Psyche]

Correction.

Post 24 no. 1 is Callopistria puchrilinea not C. rivularis.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/247058994/large.jpg
The upper two apical submarginals have level margins, only the white shadings make them look sharp.
The reniform is strongly whitened ,not seen in C. rivularis.



C. rivularis.
Note the apical submarginals are individual dentate.
The rerniform is uniformly whitish with thin margins.
http://dearlep.tw/images/Noctuoidea%20%E5%A4%9C%E8%9B%BE%E7%B8%BD%E7%A7%91/NOC/NOC_ERI/150616%20%E5%AE%9C%E8%98%AD%20%E7%A6%8F%E5%B1%B1%E 6%A4%8D%E7%89%A9%E5%9C%92%20102_800.jpg
http://dearlep.tw/species.html?namecode=422054


Callopistria pulchrilinea.
Upper two submarginals do not have dentate margins.
Reniform is enhanced white.
http://dearlep.tw/images/Noctuoidea%20%E5%A4%9C%E8%9B%BE%E7%B8%BD%E7%A7%91/NOC/NOC_ERI/101113%20%E5%AE%9C%E8%98%AD%20%E7%A6%8F%E5%B1%B1%E 6%A4%8D%E7%89%A9%E5%9C%92%20107_800ori.jpg
http://dearlep.tw/species.html?namecode=346103&photo_id=c20e46d2961ccf167bf4827dc2ad3a09


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[Zicky]

Dear Doctor Seow,

The taxon didnt exist on inat so ill leave it as it is first. I hereby present a interesting observation of a Demonarosa
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/143999353
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/145269065

I found this mysterious caterpillar in the first inat link right beside a stream at mandai. Out of curiosity, it was raised, only to turn into a pupa in a few hours. It became the moth in the second inat link after a lengthy 2 weeks of waiting. if any ID can be narrowed down i would think this is a good blast for a year end, haha.

Skipping regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 28.

Demonarosa mediodorsata.
IDed by the orange mid-dorsum parallel bands & the two red spots at FW tornus.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-1/limacodidae/limacodidae-3-1.php

A continental species is similar but have several spots at the FW base.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/390_16550-516-60e6590d31ecc-1.jpg
https://colombia.inaturalist.org/observations/5414965#data_quality_assessment


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[Zicky]

Hi Doctor Seow,

I have shot this moth that flew into my toilet, i think this is Odonestis vita, i would like to hear your opinion on this

https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/148806956

Skipping regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 30.

The two species O. angulata & vita are confusingly similar & MoB's description of the antemedial appears to be imprecise.
However there are correct specimens lodged in at BOLD.
These can be compared with the fieldshots.

Odonestis angulata.
White discal spots & fasciae antemedial & postmedial well-defined.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-3/lasiocampidae/lasiocampidae_14_4.php
BOLD specimens.
https://v3.boldsystems.org/pics/LBEOA/LS0502%2B1313168688.JPG
https://v3.boldsystems.org/pics/LBEOA/LS0501%2B1313168664.JPG

Fieldshots.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/90556220



Odonestis vita.
White discal spot & fasciae poorly defined.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-3/lasiocampidae/lasiocampidae_14_3.php
BOLD specimens.
https://v3.boldsystems.org/pics/LBEOA/LS0498%2B1313168574.JPG
https://v3.boldsystems.org/pics/LEPMY/BIOUG31846-G02%2B1525287526.JPG

Fieldshots.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/18056491
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/34197784
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/2365934



Verdict: This shot should be Odonestis angulata.



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[Zicky]

Dear Doctor Seow,

I have two moth observations here today after a long hiatus of ignoring them, which i really shouldnt, my pic size are too big to upload here so ill send inat links

1 - owlet moth family? not even sure where to start with this
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/150735927

2 - Trabala species? always see their cats around but never the adults
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/150735929

Skipping regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 32.

1. Porsica punctifascia.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-4/porsica/notodontidae_5_2.php
https://singapore.biodiversity.online/species/A-Arth-Hexa-Lepidoptera-000537

[Psyche]

Post 32.

2. Dindica olivacea.



Of the three Sundanian species D. alaopis does not occur here.
D. alaopis. FW apical patch edged strongly in white & dentate.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-9/geometrini/geometrini_12_1.php
https://data.nhm.ac.uk/media/b6e47394-3c95-43aa-9b42-ce835d755616/preview


The two species D. olivacea & polyphaenaria are easily confused.

D olivacea.
FW subapical costal mark strong, dark.
Postmedial (line) strong in the costal part. usually angled more widely. Costal ending acute.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-9/geometrini/geometrini_12_3.php
https://data.nhm.ac.uk/media/fe25cc3d-c6e8-4f21-b452-205169a0bc16/preview
https://data.nhm.ac.uk/media/6da702b6-0277-4665-92ef-7b66c7c89097/preview
https://www.flickr.com/photos/angiud/52664377539
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/22545663/large.jpg


Dindica polyphaenaria.
FW subapical costal dark patch weak.
Postmedial line very poorly defined in the lower 2/3. Costal ending less acute.
FW ground colour duskier, speckled with dark marks.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-9/geometrini/geometrini_12_2.php
https://data.nhm.ac.uk/media/f8b307e8-f7a5-4cf4-8389-3f5e4a6c78c4/preview
https://data.nhm.ac.uk/media/b811ba99-f4be-49f1-8809-427eed202dfd/preview
https://twmoth.tesri.gov.tw/peo/MothInfo/A76-20190604-006
http://gaga.biodiv.tw/new23/9408/135-2.htm



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[Zicky]

Thank you Doctor Seow!

[Zicky]

Dear Doctor Seow,

In addition to the interesting skipper ive shot today in the skipper post in the general forums, i also shot a few funny funny moths which i have zero clue where to start, and i require some of your advice.

1 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/152367108
Tribe Eupitheciini - pug moths and friends, but im not sure where to find

2 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/152367107
i have zero clue

3 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/152367126
seems to be the same as 2, but might be different

4 - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/152367111
one of the least cooperative thing ive shot today. Doesnt bother staying still, think its a fairy moth

I've really got to buy the asia moth books one of the days...

Skipping regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 36.

2 & 3.
Gespanna pectoralis.
The white discal spot may be absent.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/episparis/episparis_4_1.php
https://www.flickr.com/photos/botalex/23191406126

[Psyche]

Post 36.

1 Looks to be in Boarmiini but no match found.

4. No match. No proper reference.


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[Psyche]

Post 36.

1. Calichodes subrugata.
The bidentate (double-toothed) postmedial fascia/band is characteristic & diagnostic.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Boarmiini/boarmiini_42_1.php
https://www.papua-insects.nl/insect%20orders/Lepidoptera/Geometridae/Ennominae/Calichodes/Calichodes%20subrugata.htm

Other observations.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/130016436
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/111734889
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/98201874


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[Zicky]

Post 36.

1. Calichodes subrugata.
The bidentate (double-toothed) postmedial fascia/band is characteristic & diagnostic.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Boarmiini/boarmiini_42_1.php
https://www.papua-insects.nl/insect%20orders/Lepidoptera/Geometridae/Ennominae/Calichodes/Calichodes%20subrugata.htm

Other observations.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/130016436
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/111734889
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/98201874


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Thank you Doctor Seow!

i know it isnt easy to do moth IDs and i greatly appreciate the help i receive from you!

Skipping regards
Zicky

[Zicky]

Dear Doctor Seow,

Here are some past observation that i need require some assistance on. I find it tough to sort through these, and im still using the moth of borneo website to sort out even just at family level.

1 - Noctuoidea
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/153800854

2 - Genus Ericeia
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/151401882

3 - Subfamily Herminiinae
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/150483095

4 - Eumelea sp (i consider myself lucky it let me took a shot even, their perching angle is horrible all the time)
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/152705398

5 - im not sure where to start with, but it has two distinct spots
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/124871238

6 - Acropteris genus - what a pristine specimen, at that!
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/153800891

Skipping regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 41.

1. Unknown. no match found.

3. Unknown .Probably Hermininae.
Distinctive but no match found.

2. Ericeia inangulata.
Three species are very similar & confusing as each also varies widely.

a. E. inangulata. HW rounded.
Male with submarginal strongly zigzag ,with the angles sharp pointed.
Female with apical pale spots, a subtornal black spot & weak submarginal.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/hulodini/hulodini_4_3.php
Males.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/105_1425-724-57e18dae80420-1.jpg
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/517_16452-999-60e3f7d99b7d4-1.jpg
Female.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/517_16456-340-60e3f88502101-1.jpg

E. rectifascia. HW rounded.
FW submarginal fascia shallowly undulate. Male also with pale apical spots.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/hulodini/hulodini_4_4.php
Male.
https://insecta.pro/images/1024/30195.jpg

E. pertendens HW mildly mid-angled.
Generally more ashy grey. FW submarginal zigzag with rounded angles.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/hulodini/hulodini_4_6.php
Male.
https://www.mothsofindia.org/sites/mothsofindia.org/files/93_916-920-56951ab97c48b-1.jpg
Female.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ericeia_pertendens#/media/File:Ericeia_pertendens.jpg

[Psyche]

Post 41.

4. Should be Eumelea rosalia even though the HW apex is marked with yellow.

4 species are very similar.
28233

Eumelea rosalia.
FW postmedial strong, submarginal weak often broken & incomplete.
HW apex may be marked with yellow.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-9/eumeleini/eumeleini_8_2.php
Male & female P. Malaysia.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/53109071/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/71985879/large.png

Eumelea florinata.
FW postmedial & submarginal equally strong.
Male is densely speckled carmine pink, obscuring the yellow ground colour.
HW apex margined with yellow.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-9/eumeleini/eumeleini_8_5.php
Males.
https://static.inaturalist.org/photos/196549674/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/147243454/large.jpeg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/221729700/large.jpeg
Females
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/64933155
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/176793467/large.jpeg
P. Malaysia.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/31958823/large.jpg
Pair.
https://static.inaturalist.org/photos/263390885/large.jpg

Eumelea biflavata.
FW postmedial & submarginal equally strong with two diffuse yellow spots in betwee.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-9/eumeleini/eumeleini_8_6.php
Males.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/2252488/large.JPG
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/264733858/large.jpeg
Females.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/8594119/large.jpeg
Probable females.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/115018866/large.jpeg
https://static.inaturalist.org/photos/169833426/large.jpeg

Eumelea ludovicata
FW submarginal strong & broad ; postmedial absent.
Two yellow spots inside the submarginal, & various other spots on HW & margins.
Female often marked with dark spots.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-9/eumeleini/eumeleini_8_7.php
Males.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/178293487/large.jpeg
https://static.inaturalist.org/photos/163453103/large.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/117569322/large.jpeg
Females.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/249925672/large.jpeg
https://static.inaturalist.org/photos/189618477/large.jpeg

[Psyche]

Post 41.

5. Organopoda perobata.

Two species have very large HW spots & also a white spot on the FW.

O. cnecosticta have the FW antemedial wavy.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-10/rhodostrophiini/rhodostrophiini_1_3.php
https://insecta.pro/taxonomy/120507
https://spinelesswonders.smugmug.com/Insects/SouthEastAsianInsects/SE-Asian-Lepidoptera-Moths/SE-Asian-Moths-Geometridae/


O. perobata have the FW antemedial sraight & it matches this observation.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-10/rhodostrophiini/rhodostrophiini_1_4.php

[Psyche]

Post 41.

6. Acropteris rectinervata.

Two species are very similar.
28234

Acropteris rectinervata is much commoner.
The veins in both sexes are normal & straight.
The white marginal band is almost uniform in width, only slightly wider at the apex.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-8/microniinae/microniinae_2_2.php
https://singapore.biodiversity.online/species/A-Arth-Hexa-Lepidoptera-000382
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/11946249/medium.jpg


Acropteris grammearia.
The veins in the female are normal & straight.
In the male thw veins are closer in the middle, curving out to the margin.
The white marginal band is more abruptly widen at the apex.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-8/microniinae/microniinae_2_1.php
See Acropteris species 1 for A. rectnervata & Acropteris sp. 2 for A. grammearia.
https://www.thaibugs.com/index.php/nggallery/thumbnails?page_id=245
A. grammearia.
https://www.thaibugs.com/wp-content/gallery/moths-uraniidae/Acropteris%20sp2.jpg

Only two observations suggest A. grammearia (female)
P. Ubin 2017.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/13622775/large.jpeg
Rifle Range Rd. 2016
https://static.inaturalist.org/photos/265206472/large.jpg


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[Zicky]

Thank you for the insightful explanation Doctor Seow! The drawings are very helpful

Skipping regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 41

https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/153800854

1. Erygia apicalis.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/miscellaneous_i/miscellaneousi_1_1.php
https://eol.org/media/3408846


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[Psyche]

Post 41.

3. Chusaris species.

These two are likely to be the same species except one is more heavily darken.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/150483095
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/150483098

There is no match with Bornean materials but this Taiwanese species is very close.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58457647@N04/37222626485/


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[Zicky]

Hi Doctor Seow,

Just one moth from a recent night cycle.

Hulodes species?
inat link - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/174701807

Skipping regards
Zicky

[Psyche]

Post 49.
Hulodes caranea.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/hulodini/hulodini_1_1.php

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[Zicky]

Post 49.
Hulodes caranea.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-15-16/hulodini/hulodini_1_1.php

TL Seow:Cheers.

Thank you Doctor Seow!