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chengailim
23-Nov-2021, 08:57 PM
Dr Seow,

Could you kindly ID the following skippers please?

1.
27409
27410

2.
27411

3.
27412
27413

Thanks,

Regards
Cheng Ai

Psyche
23-Nov-2021, 11:52 PM
1. Female Telicota besta bina. Correction : Probably T. augias female.
Note the 2nd shot shows the black hole in the FW cell typical of the female.
The Cellend bars are one long (2X) & the lower one short.

2. Female Potanthus omaha.
Note duller colour & veins lightly dark dusted.


3. Female Telicota besta.
Note cellend bars, one long & one short.



Telicota females can be quite diificult.

They can be divided into three group.


A. Female with FW cellend bars ,with the upper about twice as long as the lower.

Telicota augias.
The female can be confused with T. besta female but is more orange & HW band of similar orange tone as the ground colour.
Male.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f8o_ke_F-V8/VhERLvuSs1I/AAAAAAAAR9c/hnvpvzhT6uk/s640/HFH_2455-Besta%2BPalm%2BDart.jpg
Female.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oeax9BCEjgI/VgoXgwcBG_I/AAAAAAAABhk/k60Yqt8YTVA/s1600/Telicota%2Baugias_female.jpg
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/47002208/original.jpg
Probable female.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/Federick/USR/Telicotaspp_atUSROct2004.jpg



Telicota colon stinga
The female have FW spots 4 & 5 not aligned well & often distorted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telicota_colon#/media/File:477-Telicota_colon.JPG
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-grsw9HIBWI4/VAxfuqQLhFI/AAAAAAAAQFU/ARBSsNRqbFI/s1600/HFH3772-Telicota%2Bcolon%2Bstinga.jpg
Vietnam.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oK76RoQgG7U/Vi6iI06JxYI/AAAAAAAAHIU/MFkKuLjjSLs/s1600/023.jpg



Telicota besta bina.
Female underside HW veins are lightly dark
FW spots 4 & 5 aligned.
HW ground colour slightly duskier than the band.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P5w37zUj7Bo/U1vGmLYjGiI/AAAAAAAAdOs/OuhLXLLVMTg/s1600/TB_adult_female_up_01.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OEM0FaXJUEI/U1vGhhSB71I/AAAAAAAAdOk/ZsPEPPciXJU/s1600/TB_adult_female_01.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jNl8Waf_HV0/U1vGRX6qqcI/AAAAAAAAdOM/CiGHaWLO_cQ/s1600/TB_adult_female_03+(1).jpg




B. Female upperside FW cellend bars both short, though the upper is still longer.

Telicota linna.
The female have the veins not darkened on the HW underside.
Underparts more strongly pale.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GfwkAkMITv4/VznhAIMptEI/AAAAAAAAmRM/XZFGfFws7_85wUXm9JQLC3HCEb1zfXuZgCLcB/s1600/TL_female_up_01.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Telicota%20linna/TL_female_02.jpg



C. FW cellend bars both long.

Telicota bambusae.
Female cellend bars long.
FW spots 2 & 3 rather broad.
Underside HW veins not dark dusted.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/TelicotaBambusae/TelicotaBambusae_HemantOgale_an075.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/TelicotaBambusae/TelicotaBambusae_KSaji_ad013.jpg




Potanthus ganda & omaha can be easily confused.

P. ganda veins not dark dusted or lightly so.
More orangey & ground shading darker.
Females.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-e_HuBihng50/WckVphdNd-I/AAAAAAAAr5o/X4aSyt94VVU8H5wN5zLXWxNb5Evj-LKtgCLcBGAs/s1600/Potanthus_ganda_cat4of4_underside.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Potanthus%20ganda/GandaDart_Adult_02.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6A1sOPm3bTk/UIPHu1mU6CI/AAAAAAAAG_s/SktTe4knH4E/s1600/DSC3137+Potanthus+omaha.jpg


P. omaha.
Dull ochreous yellow .
Veins lightly dark dusted on both surface.
Ground lightly shaded.
Females.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DaXbrMj8OB4/TxlTMTF-FxI/AAAAAAAAFTg/WheuP9v6Uzc/s1600/DSC3988-Potanthus%2BSarina.jpg
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/90506704
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4O8gFkmT2tE/T1DaDWvgDgI/AAAAAAAAFik/dPkrYuyc0QI/s400/DSC4524-Potanthus%2Bganda%2B%2528TBC%2529.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MF0Ou8Bsf6g/UzvTW52eX4I/AAAAAAAANqE/7kUqNhh7KgM/s1600/DSC_0189.JPG


TL Seow: Cheers.

Psyche
25-Nov-2021, 07:04 PM
ID Correction.


1 is far more likely to be Telicota augias female.

The HW underside is more uniformly orange & the HW band does not contrast with ground colour.
The thoracic hair are nearly as orange as the wings.
The FW band is narrower in the female T. augias, ie spots 2 & 3 are narrower than in the female T. besta.. Compare the upperside FW band.


TL Seow: Cheers.

chengailim
26-Nov-2021, 10:20 PM
Thanks, Dr Seow!