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ButterflyWitch
06-Jul-2020, 11:57 PM
Dear Dr. Seow Sir, please help me confirm identification of these following species...
Thank you in advance...

1. Spindasis syama?

26453

2. Flos adriana?

26454

3. Nacaduba hermus?

26455

4. Koruthaialos rubecula?

26456

26457

5. Koruthaialos rubecula?

26458

6. Telicota augias?

26459

26460

26461

7. Neptis nata?

26462

26463

8. Neptis sappho?

26464

26465

9. Phaedyma columella?

26466

10. Neptis sp.?

26467

11. Neptis magadha?

26468

Cheers :cheers:

Psyche
07-Jul-2020, 05:37 PM
1. Spindasis syama ; The colour, FW cell with a club mark, & the continuous outer two line & band.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/SpindasisSyama/SpindasisSyama_MilindBhakare_al036.jpg

Closest is S. zhengweilie in which the yellow ground zones are much wider than the bands.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/2987/Spindasis-zhengweilie

2. Arhopala adriana; There is a broken tail.

The HW apex of A areste have a blackish shadings right to the margin..
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2018/1_25567-635-5a787a3f2891c-3.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/137_6336-680-55532e1e09eae-1.jpg

The dark shadings in A adrianado not quite reach the apical margin.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/FlosAdriana/FlosAdriana_VivekSarkar_as920.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2018/287_27394-806-5ab9354a97b48-1.jpg

Psyche
07-Jul-2020, 06:01 PM
3. Nacaduba hermus.

This & N. pavana may be confused.
Both are four lines blues in which the tornal black spot have metallic scales.

N. hermus; Dark striae within the bands weak or obsolete.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/NacadubaHermus/NacadubaHermus_KrushnameghKunte_ai927.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2014/85_2223-259-5488870ce999c-1.jpg
Very similar to this.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/127_6615-151-5566dd9595f3a-1.jpg

Surprisingly Seitz's Macrolepidoptera have this as pavana when it should be hermus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nacaduba_pavana#/media/File:PavImg0.jpg


N. pavana ;Dark striae within the bands strong;Marginal & submarginal spots dark.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2018/94_24842-36-5a66f654a5aca-2.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2020/273_27983-929-5aca94f841eaf-1.jpg
Singapore examples are similar.
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PHJWYq36n14/TrSQ3V-fwBI/AAAAAAAAL9o/ULwf_Ju7LSk/s400/NP_adult_01.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CEDsbe0swS4/UtHb6ivbnQI/AAAAAAAANS4/TDfn_oXl4l8/s1600/HFH0623+The+Singapore+Fourline+Blue.jpg


Similar ;N. sanaya :Dark striae obsolete; HW black spot without metallic scales.
Singapore male & female.
https://www.besgroup.org/wp-content/uploads/Jewel-Fourline-Blue-Nacaduba-sanaya-elioti-LenaChow.jpg
https://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Nacaduba%20sanaya%20elioti/jewel%204%20line%20blue%20-%20horace%20tan.jpg

Psyche
07-Jul-2020, 06:22 PM
4 & 5. Koruthaialos sindu.

The two K. sindu & rubecula are frequently confused & there are numerous misIDs on the web.
Two very reliable features are present.

K. sindu. Labial palp 3rd segment shrt , like a conical knob. Orange band's outer border with a mid indentation or notch.
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6RkAaBJ000s/T-K3aDr6a_I/AAAAAAAAGNA/OxkxMDv66sE/s640/DSC1400++Koruthaialos+sindu.jpg
https://static.inaturalist.org/photos/2530699/large.jpg?1444960678
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2019/928_29989-281-5b13e05d68a54-1.jpg
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91530001.html

K. rubecula;Labial palp 3rd segment long ;Orange band's outer border smoothly curved to straight.
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Koruthaialos-rubecula.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-b_qzftxz-7w/Ura-2HT3jmI/AAAAAAAANH0/O_F_9hY5Df0/s1600/HFH_0294+Koruthaialos+rubecula.jpg
https://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_images/travels/hesperiidae/koruthaialosrubecularubecula.r.jpg
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91510010.html

Psyche
07-Jul-2020, 07:06 PM
6. Telicota bambusae.


T. bambusae smaller FW 15mm. FW band relatively broad ;UpF space 2 base usually black, but sometimes orange.Brand straight, middle or near outer border of black space.
UnH veins not dark dusted.
Female with twin cellend bars relatively long.

https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/TelicotaBambusae/01TelicotaBambusae_KSaji_ad012.jpg
FW distorted so band appears narrow.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2014/87_1849-101-54789d122123d-2.jpg
Male with base of space 2 orange.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/118_8838-496-561cf5cb511d4-1.jpg
Female with cellend bar relaticely long.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/171_3670-673-54cfa1a06a14a-1.jpg


T. linna :Larger, FW 18mm. Space 2 base black (sometimes orange) Male brand straight; FW band narrower.
UnH veins not dark-dusted.
Underparts ,abdomen & face paler.
Female with two short cellend bars.


https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qDEk4MIq_7Y/Vz1fLcMFHjI/AAAAAAAAmUA/i3pASYZomYsQt82Qg10lMbyNBvB3lzhogCLcB/s1600/TL_male_05.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-79Gj7N-1GXc/Vz1Td5Ld2HI/AAAAAAAAmR4/95Ux0hx6rvQBix7nmXm2PYZenG8olIQ2wCLcB/s1600/TL_male_01.jpg
Female.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GfwkAkMITv4/VznhAIMptEI/AAAAAAAAmRM/XZFGfFws7_85wUXm9JQLC3HCEb1zfXuZgCLcB/s1600/TL_female_up_01.jpg


T. augias: More orangey than other species; Male brand large, filling black space; space 2 base always orange.
UnH veins not dark-dusted,
Underpart fairly uniformly orange. Abdominal end mostly orange.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-y3LkExqbZs8/VgoXg4gxecI/AAAAAAAABhk/g-Exi9WYzh8/s1600/Telicota%2Baugias_male_2.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6riT3uzrel0/VgoXg6gugdI/AAAAAAAABhk/BmQspbMAvkk/s1600/Telicota%2Baugias_male_1.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f8o_ke_F-V8/VhERLvuSs1I/AAAAAAAAR9c/hnvpvzhT6uk/s640/HFH_2455-Besta%2BPalm%2BDart.jpg


T. besta : duller FW male brand nearer inner border of black space; space 2 base always orange.
UnH veins slightly darkened.Underparts only face noticeably paler.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6-BjVfqOIQ0/U1vGug7ph3I/AAAAAAAAdO0/Emv5HEJEs0M/s1600/TB_adult_male_up_01.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcT85USJN2munlGZ3ng4B2JNh08ehcY v4hPWNw&usqp=CAU
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EcRIOq2ivQ8/U1vGYbuSkoI/AAAAAAAAdOU/R4gYL-S-BfY/s1600/TB_adult_male_-04.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1rRXJdPYor8/U1t8nyeH4YI/AAAAAAAAdNo/oJS47AHDGVg/s1600/TB_newly_eclosed_male_01.jpg
Female.
https://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Telicota%20besta%20bina/Telicota_on_scleria_female_01.jpg

Psyche
07-Jul-2020, 09:56 PM
7. Neptis nata.
The markings are much as in N. nata.
FW submarginal spots slightly curved in ; spots generally small; Underside grey brown; UnH subcostal band curved down to join the main discal band.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/1_8579-209-5612f491ebc5a-2.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/2142/Neptis-nata
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720190010.html


8. Neptis nata.
The features are that of N. nata.
1. FW submarginal spots slightly curved in at apex.
2. HW submarginal spots relatively separate above but UnH somewhat continuous.
3. UnH subcostal band curved down to join the discal band.
4. There is no black edging of the white bands as seen in both N. sappho & hylas.

N. hylas ;FW submarginal spots slightly curved in at apex; FW postdiscal spots tend to be wide. HW submarginal spots partially separate in outer/upper half; Underside tawny brown bands black-deged.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/NeptisHylas/NeptisHylasVarmona_pareshkale_al934.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/480/Neptis-hylas

N. sappho; FW submarginal spots not obviously curved in at apex; HW submarginal spots well separated above ;Underside rusty brown ; bands black-edged; subcostal band not joining discal band.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/137_9826-704-5650b2adc4eef-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/925/Neptis-sappho
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720140010.html

There is probably some gene introgression from N. hylas causing the colour change.

Psyche
07-Jul-2020, 10:16 PM
9. Phaedyma columella ?martabana

FW with spot 2 & 3 wide.
Male with a large spot in space 1a & a tiny one above it in space 1b.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720470010.html


1o, Neptis clinia susrata.
Upperside brownish not black.
HW discal band with a small spot at the base of space 3 incorporated into the band.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2016/97_15078-797-581ec13aaf858-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/sp/3024/Neptis-clinia

11. Neptis magadha khasiana.
FW postdiscal spot 3 much smaller than spot 2 ,the two separated widely from the two spot in space 1a & 1b.
HW submarginal spots rounded & well separated.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/sp/2107/Neptis-magadha



TL Seow: Cheers.

ButterflyWitch
07-Jul-2020, 10:37 PM
Thank u so very much for the valuable guidance & suggestions, sir.....this will definitely help in my future expeditions...