Reposting - Some confusing Tanaecia / Cynitia species

[DaveChiangMai]

Having used the many notes I have gleaned from Butterfly Circle on the separation of these many confusing look-alikes, I have several remaining form a recent trip to the south of Thailand that I would like to check/confirm please.

Image 1. An old photo from Hala-Bala, which I wonder if I have correct. I currently have this as Cynitia flora, but wonder if the very ragged edge to the blue of the forewing indicates more Cynitia cocytina.

Image 2. and 3. (Same image loaded in error twice).
Not sure of this at all. Eyes are not green, so must be a Cynitia species.
Forewing blue edge ragged, but looks straighter. Band truncated before apex. I think Cynitia flora.

Image 4.
I cannot find other images on the web with similar pale shading near the forewing apex, but assume this is Cynitia flora.

Image 5.
I think female Cynitia godartii.

With thanks.

Image 1.
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Image 2.
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Image 3.
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Image 4.
26298

Image 5.
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[Psyche]

These species have been very confusing in the past.

C. godartii asoka.
HW blue band narrow FW blue band with straight margin, at rest in line with the HW band.
Underside FW male with a submarginal fascia that is nearer the apex than at the tornus.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim2/721010010.html
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Cynitia-godartii-1080x716.jpg
Note below is C. godartii not cocytina (iapis).
http://www.vireos.com/Thailand/html/Tanaecia_iapis.html


C. flora andersonii (Male underside HW outer area paler than rest of wings)
HW blue band broad, in set specimen narrower at upper end (HW apex).
FW apex falcate, blue band with inner margin more regular , at rest nearly aligned with the HW blue band.
Ssp andersonii male with FW brown margin thicker than that on HW & slightly increasing towards apex.
Female with broader brown margin throughout & also may be marked with white spots, variable.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim2/720980010.html
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/expeditions/nymphalinae/cynitiaflora/
https://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/419006009/fullscreen


C. cocytina puseda.
HW blue band broad ,in set specimen of about equal width at apex & tornus.
FW apex more rounded, blue band with inner margin irregular & at rest more often not aligned with the HW band.
Male FW brown margin not thicker than that on HW.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim2/721020010.html
Males Singapore.
https://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Tanaecia%20iapis%20puseda/Tanaecia-iapis-puseda-(Horsfields-Baron)---net.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rzo8wjfyCsM/TNjzl7Ez7RI/AAAAAAAAIzQ/zKRYH2a_hx8/s1600/HB_adult_Ellen_01.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/fKQgU90mKnGKAJauwiZM8UYJzEbxym3XOBUfMzp7vB09PBvOx5 gsGOEmxc6_kaa_PdRolyAfMj7si5lpB5azdSxRSoW_Zj8BamNk sYIZXBUfNvhywgxFX8PGGKwukwiN6mYFsFurhhTJQF-Z2FGLwJlXIfxV45Hd-tv1fNvq9g
P. Malaysia.
https://www.learnaboutbutterflies.com/Tanaecia%20iapis%20DF001a%20Taman%20Negara.jpg
Borneo.Diff ssp.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanaecia#/media/File:Horsfield's_baron_(Tanaecia_iapis_violetta)_m ale_B.jpg
Sumatra diff ssp.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/IIWuxB8DT-AnNcidWGqC-CMFkI3pvjt96voGS0wYfUkPgiTbxwstCbCrZYOvWOz0_M4Aosg XKmCk-HDRoyb_GvwjYOQctHd9CQM60PHDPp0gAciXvIs



1, 2, & 3 are C. cocytina puseda males.
4 is correct as female C. flora andersonii.
5 is correct as female C. godartii asoka.


These two from Thailand IDed as C. cocytina (iapis) should be C. flora andersonii.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/camerar/25369689251
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5a/19/c3/5a19c3bffaf3084c164ffdcee347b967.jpg


TL Seow: Cheers.

[DaveChiangMai]

Many thanks for these details. Much to ponder and work on here.