ID requested for Telicota species

[butterflyrajib]

GREETINGS FROM INDIA!!

Dear Sir/Madam,
I am sending herewith three Telicota species for indentification purpose. All specimen captured from Kolkata, West Bengal, India., in the month of Oct-Nov 2019. Please guide me along with the pictorial explanation. Till now I have confusion with Telicota species (Indian species).

Thanks and Regards,
Rajib Dey
Email.: rajibdey88@gmail.com

[Psyche]

1. Male Telicota bambusae.
2. Female T. bambusae.
3. Female T. bambusae.


Telicota bambusae. FW 15mm. FW relatively short, spot 2 & 3 about 2X width of spots 4 & 5.
Male brand straight base of space 2 dark but may be orange dusted.
Female with two fairly long cellend bars.
http://www.flutters.org/home/photogallery/plog-content/images/butterfliesbrnbspnbspnbsphesperiidae-the-skippers-br/subfamily-hesperiinae--brnbspnbspnbsp-genus-cephrenestelicota--palm-dart-/dark-palm-dart__telicota-ancilla_ashish-tiple.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/TelicotaBambusae/TelicotaBambusae_HemantOgale_an075.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/1_7040-372-559fa11cea1cf-3.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/TelicotaBambusae/TelicotaBambusae_RohitGirotra_ap643.jpg

T. linna said to be very common in Bengladesh.
Large FW 18-19 mm. FW spots 2 & 3 relatively narrow about 1.5X that of the width of spots 4 & 5.
Base of space 2 dark ,rarely slight orange dusting.
Female with the FW cellend bars rather short.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wU0gNp51E3U/VgOg89qI7cI/AAAAAAAAOQg/t1opVeXR03U/s1600/Telicota-linna-Males---Horace-Tan.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-79Gj7N-1GXc/Vz1Td5Ld2HI/AAAAAAAAmR4/95Ux0hx6rvQBix7nmXm2PYZenG8olIQ2wCLcB/s1600/TL_male_01.jpg
female.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GfwkAkMITv4/VznhAIMptEI/AAAAAAAAmRM/XZFGfFws7_85wUXm9JQLC3HCEb1zfXuZgCLcB/s1600/TL_female_up_01.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-e_7pWdo7Xxw/Vz1Tmmx5PpI/AAAAAAAAmR8/f2OCfKpKqCUHrPSwUg4pPp-4TWKi0VGlwCLcB/s1600/TL_female_03.jpg


T. colon; FW spots with long spikes much less in the female.
Spots 4 & 5 often distorted, spot 4 trapezoid; little overlap between spot 3 & 4.
Spots tend to be arranged in a stepladder way.
Male brand place nearer inside margin of black space; Base of space 2 with defined orange patch.
Female with FW cellend bars the upper one much longer.
http://butterfliesvietnam.blogspot.com/2015/10/161-telicota-colon-pale-palm-dart.html
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2017/184_16798-104-5899cc152a00a-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2017/184_16796-933-5899cb762c0b8-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/TelicotaColon/TelicotaColon_HaneeshKM_ah684.jpg
female.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2017/398_13184-938-57b21576a1d4c-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2017/398_13184-938-57b21576a1d4c-2.jpg


TL Seow: Cheers.

[butterflyrajib]

Thank you for your suitable explanation. It would be more helpful if you will comparison with Telicota besta also.

[Psyche]

Here are the rest.

Note T. linna & bambusae; 1, Both sexes, veins across UnH band not dark-dusted; 2, Face & underparts somewhat paler.

T. besta; Male base of space 2 a solid orange patch; brand set near inner margin (as in colon)
UnH veins tend to be raised & prominent, lightly dark-dusted.
Female cellend bars upper one longer ( as in colon female)
Face only slightly paler.
Male.
https://live.staticflickr.com/56/186503785_3ff94f8404_b.jpg
http://www.yin-image.com/butterfly/telicota-besta/images/IMG_0452.jpg
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2884/9589238585_1b1f356eb2_b.jpg
Female cellend bar as in T. colon but spot 4 & 5 normal & aligned.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P5w37zUj7Bo/U1vGmLYjGiI/AAAAAAAAdOs/OuhLXLLVMTg/s1600/TB_adult_female_up_01.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OEM0FaXJUEI/U1vGhhSB71I/AAAAAAAAdOk/ZsPEPPciXJU/s1600/TB_adult_female_01.jpg
Compare Spots 4 & 5 with that in female T. colon below.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-grsw9HIBWI4/VAxfuqQLhFI/AAAAAAAAQFU/ARBSsNRqbFI/s1600/HFH3772-Telicota%2Bcolon%2Bstinga.jpg


T. ohara jix; Male brand very narrow; base of space 2 black
Both sexes UnH band inner margin rather straight.(notch shallow)
http://butterfliesvietnam.blogspot.com/2015/08/118-telicota-hoara-narrow-branded-palm.html
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/telicota-ohara/
Female.
https://wingscales.com/Hesperiidae/Telicota-ohara-jix


TL Seow: Cheers.

[butterflyrajib]

Respected Dr. T L. Seow Sir, I am sending another species for id purpose. This sp. like to me as

1. Telicota sp. female.
spot 4 trapezoid; little overlap between spot 3 & 4.
Spots tend to be arranged in a stepladder way.
Female with FW cellend bars the upper one much longer.

Regards,
Rajib Dey

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[Psyche]

This does look correct for a female Telicota colon.

The female is harder to separate in fieldshots.

Female T. bambusae.: FW cellend bars long, nearly equal in length ; spots 2 & 4 rather broad, at least 2x that of spot 4.
http://www.flutters.org/home/photogallery/plog-content/images/butterfliesbrnbspnbspnbsphesperiidae-the-skippers-br/subfamily-hesperiinae--brnbspnbspnbsp-genus-cephrenestelicota--palm-dart-/pale_palm_dart_2_1_divakar_thombre_5.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/TelicotaBambusae/TelicotaBambusae_HemantOgale_an075.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/TelicotaBambusae/TelicotaBambusae_AbhaySoman_an514.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/TelicotaBambusae/TelicotaBambusae_KSaji_ad013.jpg


Telicota linna female 'FW cellend bars rather short; spots 2 & 3 rather narrow . ie narrow band.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GfwkAkMITv4/VznhAIMptEI/AAAAAAAAmRM/XZFGfFws7_85wUXm9JQLC3HCEb1zfXuZgCLcB/s1600/TL_female_up_01.jpg
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Telicota-linna-1.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Telicota%20linna/TL_female_02.jpg


Species with FW upper bar medium in length & lower bar shorter.

1. T. colon female: FW spot 4 & 5 often distorted in shape; spot 5 a bit further out.
https://static.inaturalist.org/photos/51392397/original.jpeg?1568537469
https://static.inaturalist.org/photos/30693801/original.jpeg?1548579362
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/32759713
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JdsiwA8yg80/UwquCFCtxnI/AAAAAAAANB4/iSFJjNGAv0E/s1600/DSC_0035.JPG

2. T. besta ; FW spot 4 & 5 aligned & not distorted.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P5w37zUj7Bo/U1vGmLYjGiI/AAAAAAAAdOs/OuhLXLLVMTg/s1600/TB_adult_female_up_01.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OEM0FaXJUEI/U1vGhhSB71I/AAAAAAAAdOk/ZsPEPPciXJU/s1600/TB_adult_female_01.jpg

3. T. augias female : Ground colour more strongly orange.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pU1r_zEy4Rg/Vhpe9od9mrI/AAAAAAAAW5k/7245C-6eYFU/s1600/DSC_0179.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oeax9BCEjgI/VgoXgwcBG_I/AAAAAAAABhk/k60Yqt8YTVA/s1600/Telicota%2Baugias_female.jpg

4. T. ohara female;HW band upper (inner) margin more or less straight.
https://farm1.static.flickr.com/595/22710628771_105933ab6e.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQYql-mLmgfSDquC1g8b_Do9T3uB3XU7049-sRKPmJ0zDZU8iZE&s



TL Seow : Cheers.

[butterflyrajib]

Thank you Mr. T. L. Seow Sir for your continuous guidance. I am sending herewith another one Telicota sp. for identification purpose. This species captured from Bangladesh in the year of 2018.

Regards,
Rajib Dey

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[Psyche]

Post 7.

Male Telicota bambusae.

T. bambusae : Smaller species , FW band spots 2 & 3 very wide at least 2X that of spot 4.
Male brand is straight in the black space , lying in the middle with equal black space on either sides.
Base of space typically black , but may be shaded orange as here (same for T. linna).
http://www.flutters.org/home/photogallery/plog-content/images/butterfliesbrnbspnbspnbsphesperiidae-the-skippers-br/subfamily-hesperiinae--brnbspnbspnbsp-genus-cephrenestelicota--palm-dart-/dark-palm-dart__telicota-ancilla_ashish-tiple.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Telicota_bambusae_Moore,_1878_%E2%80%93_Dark_ Palm-Dart_male_at_Peravoor_(21).jpg

T. linna :Large species ,FW band narrow.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wU0gNp51E3U/VgOg89qI7cI/AAAAAAAAOQg/t1opVeXR03U/s1600/Telicota-linna-Males---Horace-Tan.jpg

T. besta ;FW base of space 2 always clearly orange; Male brand nearer the inner margin of black space.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5hO6tO_xZtM/S5I2C6P56EI/AAAAAAAAAjA/RY2sh0CJo5Q/s400/b251_1153405827.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/56/186503785_3ff94f8404_b.jpg

T. colon Brand near inner margin of black space ; spots spiky, some distorted.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Telicota%20colon%20stinga/Telicota-colon3-KSK.jpg

T. ohara :Brand straight & narrow.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QY-vSwGhfh0/VdRMvS7kTXI/AAAAAAAAGlI/SbTKPlYjgyE/s1600/Telicota%2Bhoara3.jpg


TL Seow: Cheers.

[butterflyrajib]

Respected Sir,
I am sending herewith one Telicota male specimen for your ID guidance. Specimen captured by my nature friend from the West Bengal region on July'18. As per our previous discussion, I guessed it was T. bambusae. Please guide Sir.

Regards,
Rajib Dey
India

[Psyche]

Post 9.
Telicota besta male.

T. besta male.
1. There is always a triangular orange patch at the base of space 2.
2. The male brand is placed near the inner (basal) margin of the black space.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6-BjVfqOIQ0/U1vGug7ph3I/AAAAAAAAdO0/Emv5HEJEs0M/s1600/TB_adult_male_up_01.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/56/186503785_3ff94f8404_b.jpg


T. bambusae male.
1 The base of space 2 is usually black, but may be lightly shaded orange.
2. The male brand is placed in the middle of the black space.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dark_Palm_Dart_Telicota_bambusae_by_Dr_Raju_K asambe_DSCN4271_(10).jpg
http://www.flutters.org/home/photogallery/plog-content/images/butterfliesbrnbspnbspnbsphesperiidae-the-skippers-br/subfamily-hesperiinae--brnbspnbspnbsp-genus-cephrenestelicota--palm-dart-/dark-palm-dart__telicota-ancilla_ashish-tiple.jpg


TL Seow: Cheers.

[butterflyrajib]

Thank you for your valued response.Based on your 2nd example T. besta male specimen, uploaded species triangular basal spot at space 2 is lightly shaded.And both T. besta and bambusae male stigma extend upto space 1b.
In my post 7, basal spot 2 more prominent and broader as like your example T. besta male specimen no. 2.
Its totally confused for me till now Sir.

Regards,
Rajib Dey

[Psyche]

In a set specimen the grey male brand in T. besta is placed near the inner margin of the black space.
This is the main difference.
T. bambusae male have the base of space 2 variably orange dusted & so can be confused with T. besta
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5hO6tO_xZtM/TIIYCTw5bgI/AAAAAAAAAwY/ELtxjaBpWp0/s1600/Telicota+besta.jpg

TL Seow: Cheers.