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itsmemei
16-Oct-2019, 01:10 PM
I went for a short trip to Chiangmai, 7-12 Oct 2019, with sifu Khew, Cheng Ai and Jonathan. It was a short but fruitful trip, 4 full days of butt hunting/shooting. It was the first Chiangmai butterfly trip for Cheng Ai, Jonathan and I, and there, we met up with Antonio and his lovely wife, Kai.

I will be posting photos of the butterflies that I shot at Chiangmai and Chiangdao...trying my best to ID them, appreciate inputs and corrections if there is/are any...

I will start of with Hesperiidae, Hesperiinae, interestingly, the speicies there are much nicer than those that are found in Singapore.

Ochus subvittatus (Tiger Hopper)
This tiny one was the first hesperiidae that caught my attention, with a wingspan of only 22mm (if I'm not wrong).
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48906009803_37413748be_b_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48906379058_661780d4b0_b_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48907109837_aaa4c0292e_b_d.jpg


Thoressa masoni (Golden Ace)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48906010878_d0ac9df3cd_b_d.jpg


Aeromachus stigmata (Veined Scrub Hopper)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48906009948_9321b6dc57_b_d.jpg


Sovia albipectus (Silver-Breast Ace)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48906533926_a352da52e3_b_d.jpg


Thoressa cerata (Northern Ace)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48906535366_2dcbab87c8_b_d.jpg

itsmemei
16-Oct-2019, 01:23 PM
ID update: Koruthaialos sindu (Bright Red Velvet Bob)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48906534091_21d538eafd_b_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48906738057_34207a5205_b_d.jpg


ID update: Pithauria stramineipennis (Light Straw Ace)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48906534211_819ccdf990_b_d.jpg

Psyche
16-Oct-2019, 04:04 PM
Post 2.

1. Koruthaialos sindu.

K. sindu Palpi 3rd segment (labial palp) short, conical ;Orange band with an indentation at mid outer margin.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6RkAaBJ000s/T-K3aDr6a_I/AAAAAAAAGNA/OxkxMDv66sE/s640/DSC1400++Koruthaialos+sindu.jpg
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91530001.html

K. rubecula Palpi long & pointed ;Orange band outer margin regular, curved, without a mid indentation.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-b_qzftxz-7w/Ura-2HT3jmI/AAAAAAAANH0/O_F_9hY5Df0/s640/HFH_0294+Koruthaialos+rubecula.jpg
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91510010.html


2. Pithauria stramineipennis.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_0EK80AsaR7g/TF49H2h4W3I/AAAAAAAADOU/DjevAcDKzY4/s1600/DSC_0400-Skipper.jpg


TL Seow: Cheers.

itsmemei
16-Oct-2019, 04:36 PM
Thanks, Dr Seow!

itsmemei
16-Oct-2019, 06:09 PM
Halpe wantona (Swinhoe's Ace)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48907226318_1fe8b3f2ca_b_d.jpg


ID update: Potanthus ganda (Ganda Dart)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48907958242_3c12909489_b_d.jpg

ID update: Potanthus pseudomaesa (Indian Dart)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48907958207_c3f952a804_b_d.jpg

CERULEAN
16-Oct-2019, 09:58 PM
For the last one, think it is Lesser Band Dart (common name in HK), Potanthus trachala.

Psyche
16-Oct-2019, 11:26 PM
Post 5.
There are about 20 species of Potanthus species in Thailand & their IDs can be very difficult from fieldshots.


Potanthus no. 1; Male on the left ,female on the right.
Male abdominal end not black-banded ,FW spots overlapping HW spot 6 absent; Female FW spots no overlap between spot 5 & 6; HW spot 6 present.
Underside dark shaded.

Three species have the abdominal end yellow without a black band. namely P. omaha, ganda & confucius.

P. omaha ;HW band the veins dark-dusted, shading light.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Potanthus%20omaha%20omaha/272%20Potanthus%20omaha%20omaha%20(Lesser%20Dart)% 20Bobby%20Mun.jpg

P. ganda; HW band the veins not dark=dusted ;heavier dark shading.
P. ganda is normally quite oranging but it difficult to judge in fieldshots.
Male from P. Malaysia; female from Singapore.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-r1T4ajMPuVQ/Wmfi2GgfpLI/AAAAAAAAOkY/jv666Pzc-P4hAR9LfytxbX4u--_eoqFnwCLcBGAs/s1600/Potanthus%2Bganda%2B%2528Ganda%2BDart%2529%2B%2528 6%2529.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8xXyOhBOa1Q/WckTv35mcFI/AAAAAAAAr44/e0yZ4zfUbAYuFb4KCbE1TQq2_qSSrxc3QCLcBGAs/s1600/GandaDart-KohCH.jpg

P. confuciusFW spots broadly overlapping; HW underside usually with spot 6; Band edged with definite dark spots.
Male Thailand female from Taiwan.
https://wingscales.com/content/record/514-1-f6975.jpg
http://dearlep.tw/images/Papilionoidea/Hesperiidae/%E8%87%BA%E7%81%A3%E9%BB%83%E6%96%91%E5%BC%84%E8%9 D%B6(%E9%BB%83%E6%96%91%E5%BC%84%E8%9D%B6)%20DSC_0 068.jpg


No. 1 should be Potanthus ganda.
You can see the the respective sexes match.



2. FW with spot barely overlap spot 3 while spot 5 is detached from spot 6. FW spot 2 & 3 wider.Abdominal end with a black band.
This should be P. pseudomaesa.
Examples.
http://images5.fotop.net/albums/butterfly/PotanthusP/Potanthus_pseudomaesa.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/1a_11/30062532d7f5f8902c.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2016/111_10071-589-565eddeea639e-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/171_7165-90-55a941a69905b-4.jpg

Similar.
P. lydia;
FW spot 4 & 5 often convergent on their inner margins.; FW cell more heavily dark.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2018/94_23515-769-5a47807a03494-1.jpg
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_images/travels/hesperiidae/potanthuslydia.r.jpg

P. serina ;FW spot 5 distinctly smaller than spot 4; HW with a small spot 6 on inner corner.
https://singapore.biodiversity.online/images/speciesImages/medium/6f2134ef-9cf4-e4bc-84d2-ff96bb1e9322.jpg

P. palnia; FW spot 5 smaller than spot 4; band more strongly divided by dark veins.
https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4566/26941521059_af3350f458_b.jpg

P. trachala have the FW band uniformly narrow & the outer margins strongly excavated.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_yzw2AzY2du4/TR38IjsxkHI/AAAAAAAAFbU/q8mjxJswym0/s1600/PotanthusM01a.jpg


TL Seow: Cheers.

itsmemei
17-Oct-2019, 01:14 AM
Thanks, Dr Seow!

itsmemei
17-Oct-2019, 10:17 PM
Pithauria murdava (Dark Straw Ace)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48913039783_61972030b3_b_d.jpg

Banded Yeoman
18-Oct-2019, 12:07 PM
Post #9

Correct as Pithauria murdava, note hw post-discal dark spots poorly developed.

Banded Yeoman
18-Oct-2019, 12:08 PM
Btw, gorgeous photos so far! It's been a joy to look through them and I'm looking forward to what else you'll post!

itsmemei
18-Oct-2019, 12:30 PM
Thanks, Jon for the ID confirmation on Pithauria murdava :)

Can't wait to see your photos too!!

itsmemei
18-Oct-2019, 10:35 PM
Posting Lycaenidae polyommatinae next....

Caleta decidia (Angled Pierrot)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48965829343_8dbdfee62b_b_d.jpg


Caleta elna (Elbowed Pierrot), Caleta roxus (Straight Pierrot),
Castalius rosimon (Common Pierrot), Discolampa ethion (Banded Blue Pierrot)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48918903052_692fbc0184_b_d.jpg


Tongeia potanini (Dark Cupid)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48917884463_f0e467c891_b_d.jpg


Prosotas aluta (Barred Lineblue)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48918616147_dc4550f0ed_b_d.jpg


Prosotas nora (Common Lineblue)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48917884563_65131684d8_b_d.jpg

itsmemei
18-Oct-2019, 10:57 PM
Not too sure of the following 5 polyommatinae, help would be greatly appreciated!

1. ID update: Celatoxia marginata (Margined Hedge Blue) Female
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48917884818_6f5e116833_b_d.jpg


2. ID update: Nacaduba beroe (Opaque Sixline Blue) Male
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48918411986_60b4ed2ba2_b_d.jpg


3. ID update: Udara placidula (Narrow-bordered Hedge Blue)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48917884723_ce9468c541_b_d.jpg


4. ID update: Jamides celeno (Common Cerulean)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48918616042_531011fe7d_b_d.jpg


5. Nacaduba angusta (White Lineblue)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48918836942_cc28fb3c48_b_d.jpg


Chilades pandava (Plain Cupid)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48918412046_a480f836eb_b_d.jpg

Psyche
19-Oct-2019, 06:22 PM
Post 14.

1. Celatoxia marginata.Female.
Among the genera with a white dot at the antennal tip include Celastrina, Udara ,Celatoxia, Lestranicus & Callenya.

C. lavendualris have spots with white halos, while C. argiolus have small spots.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2014/83_321-439-542035248938d-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/87_1955-634-547f2164a70e4-1.jpg

This one have heavy postdiscal spots so most of the other genera can be excluded.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/sp/2809/Callenya-melaena
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callenya_lenya#/media/File:CallenyaLenyaLenyaFUpUnAC1.jpg
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/80750001.html

Oreolyce archena is very similar but the antenna does not have a white dot & HW has an extra spot at the base of space 1b.
http://nlliew66butterflies.blogspot.com/2018/03/oreolyce-archena-archena-corbet-1940.html

This leave C. marginata which has heavy postdiscal markings,
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/967/Celatoxia-marginata



2. Nacaduba beroe male; Note the costal spot above the mid cell band is missing (similar to I. helicon)

Psyche
19-Oct-2019, 06:29 PM
3 Udara placidula.
Submarginal lunules present; HW spot 7 large, darker than others ;Underside dark dhaded.
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Udara_placidula_placidula#/media/File:UdaraPlacidulaPlacidulaMFUpUnAC1.jpg
http://nlliew66butterflies.blogspot.com/2017/08/udara-placidula-irenae-corbet-1937.html

Udara cyma is similar but not found in ChiangMai.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udara_cyma#/media/File:Udara_cyma_elioti,_male.JPG
http://www004.upp.so-net.ne.jp/jamides/LycPhil/Lycaenopsis-Phil/cyma2.jpg


3. Jamides celeno.
J. pura have long silvery side bars on the black spot.
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5494/14239610788_5965d57a1b_c.jpg


4 & 5 are correct.



TL Seow: Cheers.

itsmemei
19-Oct-2019, 11:51 PM
Thanks, Dr Seow!

itsmemei
21-Oct-2019, 03:42 PM
Nymphalinae:

Kallima inachus siamensis
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48934430132_2f9a3de2e3_b_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48933698628_f904605c23_b_d.jpg


Junonia iphita (Chocolate Pansy)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48934243391_1f8542cf2e_b_d.jpg


Symbrenthia lilaea (Common Jester)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48933698573_699b29becb_b_d.jpg

Psyche
21-Oct-2019, 08:20 PM
Post 18.

Yes they are both Kallima inachus siamensis.

They can be quite confusing.
It is impossible to ID from the underside pattern, as it is so variable.

K. inachus; FW apex with a small pointed tip & HW tail longer.
HW tail nearly as long as the lower distal margin from vein 2 (where it is strongly angled) to the the tornus.
Upperside orange band inner border with a series of deep well-defined indentations.
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Kallima-inachus-as-Smart-Object-1-1080x675.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kallima_inachus#/media/File:Kallima_inachus_at_Gunma_Insect_World.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kallima.inachus.2.jpg
https://www.learnaboutbutterflies.com/India%20-%20Kallima%20inachus.htm

K. limborgi FW apex in the male not produced to a tip but does so in the female.
HW tail shorter , shorter than the lower distal margin from vein 2 to tornus.
Upperside with the orange inner border irregular, without sharply defined indentations. Correction: Can also have well-defined indentations.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/eb/f8/3f/ebf83f7ed8d317ced5318839954e89f6.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scapeview/11620404596/
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Kallima-limborgi.jpg
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/nym/760350001.html



TL Seow: Cheers.

itsmemei
22-Oct-2019, 11:21 AM
Yes, they are very confusing! Thanks Dr Seow for the ID confirmation :)

itsmemei
22-Oct-2019, 11:33 AM
Nymphalidae Limenitidinae:

ID update: Athyma nefte asita (Colour Sergeant)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48939553561_2e5a387135_b_d.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48939741482_8f27cb1f9f_b_d.jpg


ID update: Neptis nata adipala (Sullied Brown Sailor)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48939741522_532e982364_b_d.jpg


ID update: Tanaecia julii odilina (Common Earl) Female
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48940757107_6c66c0e613_b_d.jpg

Athyma asura (Studded Sergeant)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48939002908_e7229ef5ac_b_d.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48939741422_4c3310d9f4_b_d.jpg


Neptis ananta learmondi (Ananta Yellow Sailor)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48939002808_154c48c9cc_b_d.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48939553101_8fd73f6d9f_b_d.jpg

Psyche
23-Oct-2019, 06:59 PM
Post 21.

1. Athyma nefte asita.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720580010.html

2. Neptis nata adipala.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720190010.html


3. Female Tanaecia julii odilina.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim2/720910010.html

4. Usually placed as Athyma.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720520001.html

5. Neptis ananta learmondi.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720350010.html


TL Seow: Cheers.

itsmemei
23-Oct-2019, 09:10 PM
Thanks, Dr Seow for the ID. For photo no. 4, does it have 2 scientic names - Athyma asura and Limenitis asura? Did google search on both names and they are the same speices.
This is from Antonio's website https://thaibutterflies.com/?s=Limenitis+asura

atronox
23-Oct-2019, 09:41 PM
Thanks, Dr Seow for the ID. For photo no. 4, does it have 2 scientic names - Athyma asura and Limenitis asura? Did google search on both names and they are the same speices.
This is from Antonio's website https://thaibutterflies.com/?s=Limenitis+asura

Limenitis was once the broad generic name used for a numer of distantly related genera. Newer classifications use Athyma because they wish to emphasise the distinctness of these two groups of taxa. So this name has now been confined to a small group of species and is used in a much narrower sense.

itsmemei
23-Oct-2019, 10:52 PM
Thanks Aaron for the clarification and useful information! :)

Psyche
24-Oct-2019, 03:42 AM
Recent mitochondrial gene analysis show several species currently in Athyma belong in Limenitis.
These include A. asura, , jina , & sulpitia (already placed by Yutaka in Limenitis)
http://www.nymphalidae.net/Nymphalidae/Classification/Lim_Limenitidini.htm
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1055790318302744?via%3Dihub


TL Seow: Cheers.

itsmemei
24-Oct-2019, 08:31 PM
Thanks, Dr Seow!

itsmemei
24-Oct-2019, 09:32 PM
The following Theclinae are easy to ID so no help needed (phew!) I hope! :bsmile:

Cheritra freja evansi (Common imperial)
A moderately rare species in Singapore but seems to be quite common in Chiangmai, I encountered a couple of them each day. I prefer the subspecies frigga which is found in Singapore, with more orange shading on the forewing. Nonetheless, still a joy to see and photograph because I haven't got the chance to do so in Singapore yet.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48950966263_7c5d1da63a_b_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48950966048_5bacd82826_b_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48951510276_d5a67035a5_b_d.jpg


Hypolycaena erylus himavantus (Common Tit)
A common species but still very attractive. A lot "whiter" than the subspecies teatus, the pristine ones have a beautiful slivery sheen, reflecting light at certain angle....I don't think the photos have done justice to its beauty!
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48951709862_5c76e226aa_b_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48951510151_16d3b24663_b_d.jpg


Remelana jangala ravata (Chocolate Royal)
A lot darker than the subspecies travana which is found in Singapore. It has a beautiful purplish hue which I don't see in travana.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48951510111_48a7cd3411_b_d.jpg

itsmemei
24-Oct-2019, 11:53 PM
The sighting of the Pseudotajuria donatana arooni got us all excited, highlight of the day at Phrao - Mae Pang.

Pseudotajuria donatana arooni (Dawnas Royal)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48950966063_d55b9308e0_b_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48951709772_b4eff53859_b_d.jpg


Hypolycaena othona (Orchid Tit)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48951709802_887f10662f_b_d.jpg

atronox
25-Oct-2019, 11:35 PM
Very nice collection of Lycaenids!!

itsmemei
26-Oct-2019, 11:36 AM
Very nice collection of Lycaenids!!

:):)

itsmemei
26-Oct-2019, 01:51 PM
I find the combination of species under the subfamily Apaturinae is very interesting, the courtesans together with the emperors, princes and courtier :thinking:

Euripus nyctelius nyctelius (Courtesan)
This is another species that I haven't got a chance to see in Singapore, I believe it was a couple of years ago when someone sighted and shot one?
During our stay at Chiangmai, I encountered at least one each day. I was extra happy when 2 of them appeared on our 2nd visit to Chiangdao!
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48956602097_076d4fe770_b_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48960282513_d1c7b1298e_b_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48955859753_71a3bb0d0f_b_d.jpg


Mimathyma ambica (Indian Purple Emperor)
The iridescent blue that appears at different angles is just amazing!
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48956601802_41a55819fd_b_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48955859683_3440dd6116_b_d.jpg


Rohana parvata (Brown Prince)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48955859453_35fe4e5b4c_b_d.jpg

Rohana parisatis (Black Prince)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48961112502_daa73ea93c_b_d.jpg

Psyche
26-Oct-2019, 11:48 PM
Post 32.

Yes, the last one is Rohana perisatis.

This & tonkiniana are very similar.

R. parisatis; FW distal margin more excavated in the male.
UnH cellend mark consist of two separated spots or upper spot obsolete; FW cellend mark is strongly constricted or separated into two as well.
This male from S. India is easier to see the cellend marks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohana_parisatis#/media/File:Rohana_parisatis_Westwood,_1850_%E2%80%93_Bla ck_Prince_newly_eclosed_male_from_Peraiya_(23).jpg

https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/RohanaParisatis/02RohanaParisatis_RohanLovalekar_ab181.jpg
https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/Rohana-parisatis-pseudosiamensis


R. tonkiniana; FW distal margin straighter in the male; Underside both wings with cellend mark a single entire bar ie the two spots are contiguous.
https://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/Rohana-tonkiniana-siamensis Corrected Link.
TL Seow: Cheers.

itsmemei
27-Oct-2019, 09:33 AM
Thank you so much, Dr Seow :)

itsmemei
27-Oct-2019, 09:53 AM
Heliophorus ila nolus (Restricted Purple Sapphire)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48956940082_938436867d_b_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48961179141_d79b3eff02_b_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48956750386_e32073fb27_b_d.jpg


I can totally relate to the person who came up with the name because counting the rings can be very confusing! :bsmile:

Ypthima confusa (Confused Three-ring)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48956747421_050c127229_b_d.jpg

Psyche
27-Oct-2019, 11:22 AM
In POst 33.the wrong link for R. tonkiniana was inserted accidentally.

That may have got you confused.

I have corrected the link.

TL Seow: Cheers.

itsmemei
27-Oct-2019, 12:29 PM
In POst 33.the wrong link for R. tonkiniana was inserted accidentally.

That may have got you confused.

I have corrected the link.

TL Seow: Cheers.

Yes, the link works this time, thanks!

Psyche
27-Oct-2019, 11:00 PM
Post 35.
I think you got both right.

Heliophorus epicles & ila are very confusingly similar in the North.

In P. Malaysia they are much more easy to ID.

H. ila malaya. UnH red border in space 6 nearly flushed with the rest, rounded.
http://nlliew66butterflies.blogspot.com/2017/06/heliophorus-ila-malaya-pendlebury-1936.html
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/expeditions/lycaenidae/heliophorusila/

H. epicles tweediei.UnH red border in space 6 protrude inwards , ie further in than the rest .
http://nlliew66butterflies.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-purple-sapphire-heliophorus-epicles.html
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Heliophorus_epicles_tweediei#/media/File:H_e_tweediei_ACC3432-5.jpg
https://www.learnaboutbutterflies.com/Malaysia%20-%20Heliophorus%20epicles.htm

The male of H. epicles usually have some orange on the FW even ssp latlimbata.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/HeliophorusEpicles/01HeliophorusEpicles_KrushnameghKunte_ah962.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/HeliophorusEpicles/02HeliophorusEpicles_KrushnameghKunte_ah963.jpg

https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/233_3157-146-54b89fbabede7-2.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/233_3157-146-54b89fbabede7-1.jpg

https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/94_3522-474-54c766caca026-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/94_3522-474-54c766caca026-2.jpg

Example of a male without/faint orange on the FW.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/233_3104-907-54b7ae738f6b6-2.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/233_3104-907-54b7ae738f6b6-1.jpg

H. ila nolus in Thailand have the inner margin of the red border rounded , slightly protruding inwards.
http://butterfliesofthailand.blogspot.com/2015/03/109-restricted-purple-sapphire.html



Ypthima confusa have HW eyespot 6 much larger than spot 2.
Y. watsoni have both spot 6 & 2 about equal.
See pdf article below in link Satyridae from Vietnam. fig 7. no 4 (confusa) & 7 (watsoni.
https://www.google.com/search?q=revision+ypthima+vietnam&rlz=1C1MSIM_enMY705MY706&oq=revision+ypthima+vietnam&aqs=chrome..69i57.11527j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


TL Seow; Cheers.

itsmemei
28-Oct-2019, 02:56 PM
Many thanks, Dr Seow.

As a reference, I have attached info on Y. confusa and Y. watsoni from Pisuth's book. The subspecies watsoni which is found in Chiangmai has very small ocelli on the HW, is the size vairable?
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48972537732_91e49960d7_b_d.jpg

Psyche
28-Oct-2019, 08:02 PM
Practically all species have some variations in the size of the ocelli.

Despite what Pisuth stated, there are dsf of Y. watsoni.

Y. watsoni watsoni was described by Moore , type location Burma (Myanmar).

From Moore's book.
Fig 4 wsf.
Fig 4a, b, c, dsf male & female.
https://archive.org/stream/lepidopteraindic02moor#page/n188/mode/1up

Pisuth's image looks like dsf with its small ocelli & strong fasciae (bandings).


TL Seow: Cheers.

itsmemei
28-Oct-2019, 08:57 PM
Noted. Thanks Dr Seow :)

itsmemei
28-Oct-2019, 11:05 PM
2 species from subfamily Aphnaeinae...

Spindasis syama (Club Silverline)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48950965808_91c3fdb920_b_d.jpg


Spindasis lohita himalayanus (Long-banded Silverline)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48951509986_8cd3a22711_b_d.jpg


Riodinids...

Abisara echerius (Common Plum Judy)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48973729873_4b8a5fdf19_b_d.jpg


Dodona egeon (Orange Punch)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48973729548_3aed0349b9_b_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48974278306_538a2e0c6f_b_d.jpg


Zemeros flegyas (Common Punchinello)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48973729263_f7a4d2644c_b_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48974459317_ca2879b1ea_b_d.jpg

itsmemei
30-Oct-2019, 06:42 PM
Nymphalids....

ID update: Chersonesia intermedia rahrioides (Wavy Maplet)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48985027527_c27dc3dee0_b_d.jpg


Chersonesia risa (Common Maplet)
Love the elegant sub-marignal pattern across the FW and HW.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48984276408_2a6e631d53_b_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48985027402_5a2ab5fbc3_b_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48985027297_82e542c285_b_d.jpg


Laringa horsfieldi (Banded Dandy)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48985028702_365deeba82_b_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48985028657_a66f564b41_b_d.jpg

Psyche
30-Oct-2019, 08:45 PM
Post 43.
1 Chersonesia intermedia rahrioides.

SSp rahrioides have a broader postdiscal band(with the dashes) & looks similar to C. rahria.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/cyr/730080010.html

ssp intermedia.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/cyr/730080001.html

C. rahria have a curved cross line at the apex.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/cyr/730070001.html


TL Seow: Cheers.

itsmemei
31-Oct-2019, 07:44 PM
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48990405777_5591e2f086_b_d.jpg

Dr Seow, in Pisuth's book, he mentioned that 'this species has been revised and raised up from subspecies of intermedia to a species', so should it be Chersonesia rahrioides instead of Chersonesia intermedia rahrioides?

Psyche
31-Oct-2019, 10:20 PM
When someone does a revision & upgrade a subspecies to a full species. his argument have to be convincing to gain acceptance from his peers.
Pisuth's book was published in 2012, so the revision ( by whoever )was done earlier than that.

The major players here have retain this as a subspecies.
Yutaka webpage on C. intermedia rahriodes was revised in 31 -8- 2018 just last year.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/cyr/730080010.html

Butterflies of India have also retain it as a subspecies.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/896/Chersonesia-intermedia


TL Seow: Cheers.

itsmemei
31-Oct-2019, 10:44 PM
Thanks Dr Seow for the clarification :)

itsmemei
02-Nov-2019, 05:55 PM
Charaxes bernardus (Common Tawny Rajah)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48984840926_daaa013ce4_b_d.jpg


Charaxes solon (Black Rajah)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48984840851_c0f20569b6_b_d.jpg


Polyura Eudamippus (Great Nawab), Polyura Delphis (Jewel Nawab), Polyura Athamas (Common Nawab)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48995795917_14d9c3e904_b_d.jpg


Telchinia issoria (Yellow Coster)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48984839521_a822ffa607_b_d.jpg


Cethosia biblis (Red Lacewing)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48985027962_3452d781cc_b_d.jpg


Vindula erota (Common Cruiser)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48985027887_3c8401e7cf_b_d.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48984276803_6d156f6955_b_d.jpg

itsmemei
09-Nov-2019, 10:18 PM
Papilionids:

Papilio alcmenor alcmenor (Redbreast)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48999365101_3ab65055c3_b_d.jpg


Papilio nephelus chaon (Black and White Helen), Byasa polyeuctes (Common windmill)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49037774146_6ce57c340b_b_d.jpg


Papilio memnon (Great Mormon)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49007082712_8c9f4d7aac_b_d.jpg

itsmemei
09-Nov-2019, 10:42 PM
Lastly, collage of photos from our trip... a cozy place to stay, good food and great company!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49004185877_f5b37f58d7_b_d.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49003437193_01736108dc_b_d.jpg

4 days of shooting, 90 lifers and a happy me :bsmile:

Till next trip! :cheers: