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atronox
07-Apr-2018, 08:47 PM
Here's what i think is N. kurava nemana. Thoughts?

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atronox
07-Apr-2018, 08:52 PM
These i think are all female N. berenice icena

These first two are the same individual
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This is another individual
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Psyche
07-Apr-2018, 09:29 PM
Post 1.
Concur it is N. kurava male.

Post 2.
1 is N. berenice female /Upperside pale blue.

2. is a bit dificult.
It could be N. calauria as the submarginal spots 4 & 5 are pointed on both wings.
An upperside shot may help.
The variation in N. calauria here is not known.

Tentatively I will leave it as N. berenice female.

TL Seow:Cheers.

atronox
09-Apr-2018, 05:21 AM
Thx for the confirmation Dr Seow. Unfortunately that is the only view that i have of the 2nd individual.
I don't know if berenice and calauria are found in the same localities

atronox
04-Aug-2018, 04:57 AM
Here's two shots of what i think is berenice from the curvature of the post-discal band on the forewing.

I have one or two which i think might be calauria. I find berenice and calauria very difficult to separate

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1819/42020332420_f5438e93dd_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/272cbS1)

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Psyche
04-Aug-2018, 09:27 PM
Post 5.
1 pair N. berenice male L, female R.

2 male. This is very difficult.
The pointed submarginal spots 4 & 5 says calauria, but the broken postdiscal says berenice.
It may be a hybrid.
It is difficult to compare with images from other region eg in Australia berenice have all the submarginals sharp-pointed.

Here are some examples from Singapore.

N. berenice
Males.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_0EK80AsaR7g/TDUnkJiw7fI/AAAAAAAADGE/UnLlKCiYJ9A/s400/DSC4862-6-Line-Blue.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Nacaduba%20berenice%20icena/154%20Nacaduba%20berenice%20icena%20(Rounded%206-Line%20Blue)%20Bobby%20Mun.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JiwYoYOjqZY/U4Hk2bI2aXI/AAAAAAAAOCQ/Zl7eiooIvDM/s1600/HFH2224+Nacaduba++berenice+icena.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YBJZ0bsb0tI/VEO5a-LV64I/AAAAAAAAQRk/LkG2KZbMqT8/s1600/HFH4490%2BMale%2BNacaduba%2Bberenice.jpg
females.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Nacaduba%20calauria%20malayica/Nacaduba-calauria-malayica-(Female)-...-Sunny-Chir.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5251/5448865696_dc79f98942.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xFQx2YUBf8c/U5xj17_wpnI/AAAAAAAAONY/I69gkZT-jvk/s1600/HFH_2642-Nacaduba+berenice+icena.jpg
https://www.nss.org.sg/butterflies_list/spc_info.php?spc_id=740

As none of the definitive male or female have FW spot 4 & 5 sharply pointed, it strongly suggest your no. 2 should be a male N. calauria variant in which the postdiscal is dislocated in the middle.


N. calauria.
Definitive male Note upperside dark violet.
https://wanderingbutterflyeffect.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/6a0100a801ee89000e011017b3ad98860e.jpg
others
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5788/20754271933_34c204e4f1_b.jpg
male on L.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Nacaduba%20berenice%20icena/Rounded%206%20Line%20Blue%20-%20Henry%20Koh.jpg
females.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Nacaduba%20calauria%20malayica/Nacaduba-calauria-malayica---2--.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1271/4611202469_65181a03d4.jpg
Note in both male & female N. calauria FW submarginal spots 4 & 5 always have a very sharp point.

Females. N. kurava. FW postdiscal almost always straight & submarginals with rounded margins.
https://wanderingbutterflyeffect.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/6a0100a801ee89000e00fad6b787da0005.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0EK80AsaR7g/TU4yjDG548I/AAAAAAAAD9k/FkDGJZI6H7c/s400/DSC8307-Nacaduba-sp.jpg


TL Seow: Cheers.

atronox
07-Aug-2018, 03:50 AM
Thanks Dr Seow for your insights. I'd hate to complicate matters, but could it be possible that berenice might occasionally have more pointed striae in spaces 4 and 5 like this?

Here are two more- the first i'm very certain is a female calauria based on the points discussed. The second is a male and i'm less certain but i think it's a male calauria even though striae 4 and 5 are less pointed. This was the only decent shot i could manage:/


https://farm1.staticflickr.com/851/28952477267_31311372ec_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/L7r1Nx)


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