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DaveChiangMai
02-Dec-2017, 04:56 PM
A shot of a Charaxes from Phrae, north Thailand. It's more usual to struggle with the underside images of this species, and its lookalike C. bernardus. However, in this case I only have the upperside shot.

I am pretty sure this is C. aristogiton, based on the narrower forewing margin and the row of crescent-shaped spots running along the forewing from space 1 to about space 4-5. However, a few images on the web show this feature on bernardus, though to a lesser extent. Would be grateful for confirmation on this being aristogiton please.

Many thanks

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Psyche
02-Dec-2017, 05:57 PM
It should be C. bernardus hierax variant.

The two can be confusingly similar.

C. bernardus hierax :FW costa with one cellend black mark; the inner margin of FW black border strongly excavated by the orange forming two 'spots'.
Lower margin with less zigzag line.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/CharaxesBernardus/CharaxesBernardus_MilindBhakare_am974.jpg
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/CharaxesBernardus/05CharaxesBernardus_RohanLovalekar_ab195.jpg
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/543/Charaxes-bernardus

C. aristogiton; FW costa with two black marks ;inner margin of black border regular & even at upper end;
Lowe inner margin highly zigzag line , its upper end forming two orange spots.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/CharaxesAristogiton/CharaxesAristogiton_af922_AjayGaikwad.jpg
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/912/Charaxes-aristogiton

Some error on the web eg this should be C. aristogiton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charaxes_bernardus#/media/File:Tawny_Rajah_(Charaxes_bernardus),_Vietnam.jpg

TL Seow: Cheers.

DaveChiangMai
02-Dec-2017, 06:23 PM
Many thanks for that clarification.

So, I have this one (from n Thailand) down also as C. aristogiton, based mainly on the straight dark margins on the underside. Upperside matches aristogiton better I think, though this one does not show two spots on the forewing (one plus a dirty mark?). Your thoughts please:

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Psyche
03-Dec-2017, 12:34 AM
Post 3.
This is also C. bernardus hierax.

C. aristogiton. FW costal area with two black bars( spots) ;Inner margin of black border at costa regular ; lower margin black line highly zigzag.
Underside HW postdiscal band outer margin more regular (not irregularly zigzag as pix 1)often black.
https://www.thaibugs.com/wp-content/gallery/charaxinae/Charaxes%20aristogiton.jpg
http://www.flutters.org/home/photogallery/plog-content/images/butterfliesbrnbspnbspnbspnymphalidae-the-brush-footed-br/subfamily-charaxinae-brnbspnbspnbsp-genus-charaxes--the-rajahs-/scarce_tawny_rajah_1_ayan_chakraborty_3.jpg

TL Seow: Cheers.

DaveChiangMai
03-Dec-2017, 10:22 AM
Many thanks for the clarification.