Neptis sp. N. cartica?

[DaveChiangMai]

Two different Neptis (one from Chiang Dao, the other Kaeng Krachan). Closest I can get to ID is N. cartica. This would be surprising for the Kaeng Krachan individual as would be out of known range.

Image 1. Chiang Dao
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Image 2. Kaeng Krachan
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[atronox]

#1 is most likely N. yerburii pandoces or capnodes pandoces. I think it's safe to exclude clinia from the shape of the submarginal band on the hindwing

#2 probably N. clinia susruta

[Psyche]

1. Neptis clinia.

1. HW band not broaden upwards.
2. FW submarginal spots not bent in at apex.spots aligned end to end.
3. HW band usually with a little triangular white spot at base of space 3.
4. FW cell-bar & cellend spot not well-separated.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720120010.html
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2016/97_15078-797-581ec13aaf858-1.jpg

2. Neptis soma.

1. HW band broaden upwards.
2. FW submarginal spots bent in at apex, spots aligned end to end.
3. HW band often with a triangular spot at base of space 3.
4. FW cell-bar & cellend spot well-separated.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720180010.html

N. capnodes pandoces (formerly as N. yerburyi) Correction: images are probably in error.
FW submarginal spots strongly triangular & bent in at apex. Description are based on wrong images.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8391/8624573773_718a947bbc_b.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BSuiWBzhNTY/VFY7SSCG24I/AAAAAAAAQbc/rKn9OXEzctI/s1600/HFH_5832%2BNeptis%2Byerburii%2Bpandoces.jpg

N. cartica.
1. HW band not broaden upwards.
FW submarginal spots offset, not aligned end to end, & gently curved in at apex.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720300010.html


TL Seow: Cheers.

[DaveChiangMai]

Many thanks for the detailed replies.

[atronox]

Thanks, Dr Seow, appreciate the corrections

[DaveChiangMai]

Interesting record of N. soma from as far south as Kaeng Krachan. Old collecting records do not reach so far south. Wonder if there are other observations this far south in Thailand.

[Psyche]

N. soma is found in peninsular Malaysia.


TL Seow: Cheers.

[Psyche]

Description of N. capnodes pandoces is probably in error.
see link
http://www.butterflycircle.com/showthread.php?15610-Neptis-sp-N-soma

2 is probably also N. clinia It is too brown & sullied.
The FW submarginal spots are only curved in at the apex.

N. clinia.
http://m4.i.pbase.com/u46/mr_t/upload/29374404.Crop_DSCF1607.jpg

N. soma
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2016/97_13158-724-57acbbd46329f-1.jpg

TL Seow: Cheers.