Some Euploeas sp. need IDs

[Alan Yip]

1. Euploea orontobates? Euploea modesta? March/2016 Chiangmai

https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3676/32820996170_1a584ab820_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/S1hbGj)紫斑蝶 20160330 DSC_6494 (https://flic.kr/p/S1hbGj) by Alan Yip (https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanyip3/), 於 Flickr

2. Euploea cameralzeman? April/2015 Phuket

https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3836/32820998450_0b81007394_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/S1hcnC)紫斑蝶 20150424 DSC_1495 (https://flic.kr/p/S1hcnC) by Alan Yip (https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanyip3/), 於 Flickr

3. Euploea core amymone? May/2016 Hainan

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2816/33046553762_81947a205f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Smde7j)紫斑蝶 20160503 DSC_9181 (https://flic.kr/p/Smde7j) by Alan Yip (https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanyip3/), 於 Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2890/32358867104_b3e9831384_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/RirDPN)紫斑蝶 20160503 DSC_9175_01 (https://flic.kr/p/RirDPN) by Alan Yip (https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanyip3/), 於 Flickr

Thanks!

[Psyche]

Strong regional differences make Euploea species ID very difficult.

1. Euploea core godartii.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/dan/30270020.html
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kc75fXOYo1M/VPa8ozSmGkI/AAAAAAAAABM/x1878z1WF3Q/s1600/BBB%2B-%2B0022.jpg
http://www.dnp.go.th/FOREMIC/NForemic/Caterpillars%20Food/Philips%20pet%20Caterpillar/Group%20Worm%201/Danaidae%20JPG/%E0%B8%9C%E0%B8%B5%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B7%E0%B 9%89%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%88%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2% E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8 %B5%E0%B9%88%E0%B9%82%E0%B8%96.html

E. orontobates.
HW inner series of submarginal spots with more rounded or convex margins.
http://www.malaeng.com/blog/tmp/2010/07/euploea-orontobates3.jpg
http://www.thaibutterflies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/euploea-orontobates-PISUTH.jpg
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/dan/30255001.html

E. modesta modesta. FW apex is clear of spots.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-44yvAJJu-Zg/VPbPhQYdmdI/AAAAAAAAADU/C4jhUGLgopY/s1600/BBB%2B-%2B0933.jpg
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/dan/30240001.html


2. E. phaenareta castelnaui male.
FW lower margin bowed (male) HW with 3 series of spots. FW apex with diffuse enlarged spots.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J44EnjRG15k/VAr5ebGoQRI/AAAAAAAAMm8/vo6T_kXHLGs/s450/KingCrow-LokePF.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Euploea%20phaenareta%20castelnaui/King%20Crow%20-%20benjin.jpg

E. camaralzeman malayica.
Male HW with 2 series of spots; female very similar but FW enlarged spots sharper.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MO1DunbzjGM/U6PufJH__eI/AAAAAAAAPeM/vWt6StCeIiA/s1600/DSC_0010.JPG
http://malaysiabutterflies.myspecies.info/file-colorboxed/1050

Tl Seow: Cheers
PS E. midamus chloe is also very similar to 1, but the apex is sharper & mostly free of spots ; tornal marginal spots .
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/dan/30350010.html
http://insecta.pro/images/1024/12954.jpg
http://insecta.pro/images/1024/13805.jpg

[Alan Yip]

Thanks, Dr. Seow, very difficult particularly in E. core

2 more Crows from Hainan

Euploea tulliolus? Euploea eunice?
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/719/33075655801_d7890515dc_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/SoMo8B)The Dwarf Crow 妒丽紫斑蝶 [mating] (https://flic.kr/p/SoMo8B) by Alan Yip (https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanyip3/), 於 Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/676/32408605143_1ea0cbd781_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/RnQzdc)20160430 DSC_8363 (https://flic.kr/p/RnQzdc) by Alan Yip (https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanyip3/), 於 Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 3.

Pair Euploea eunice coelestis, male at the top. Note female in 2nd pix shows submarginal spot in space 1b practically absent.
The underside markings of the two species are practically identical.


E. eunice coelestis.
1. Much larger than tulliolus though the size can be quite variable.
2. Darker brown underside.
3. Male FW outer margin very strongly convex & apex more pointed ;overall roundly triangular in shape.
$. Upperside FW submarginal spot in space 1b (lowest) absent or a tiny dot.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/dan/30370010.html
Male.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/npict3/30370020_n001.jpg
Male ssp leucogonis showing the convex triangular FW with pointed apex.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yzw2AzY2du4/S7StWbq49lI/AAAAAAAAEbo/X6QrLCbB-EY/s1600/Blue-Branded-King.jpg

E. tulliolus dehaani.
1. Much smaller, usually by half.
2. Lighter brown underside.
3. FW outer margin less convex & apex more blunt.
4. Upperside FW submarginal spot in space 1b present. normal size.
5. Male without a brand.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/dan/30330020.html
Males.
http://www.thebugmaniac.com/sitescene/custom/shop/products/Danaidae-Euploea-tulliolus-dehaani_1453221668285.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NoryVVG0HfI/VQFh0lFALeI/AAAAAAAAAQI/Pyq3eOg2BN8/s1600/BBB%2B-%2B0345.jpg
http://www3.ru.ac.th/research/butterfly/newupdate/update010943/butt-nature/Nym-Dan%20Euploea%20tulliolus%20dehaani.htm

TL Seow: Cheers.

[Alan Yip]

Thanks, Dr. Seow

One more from Borneo:

Euploea camaralzeman? E. phaenareta?

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/582/32893690230_45248c5a19_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/S7GL7b)20170116 DSC_5810 (https://flic.kr/p/S7GL7b) by Alan Yip (https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanyip3/), 於 Flickr

[Psyche]

post 5.

Euploea phaenareta butleri. Correction; probably E. camaralzeman scudderi female.

The best guide is the HW in whch E. phaenareta have a full series of discal & submarginal spots.spots.
In E. camaralzeman, the discal series & the inner submarginal series are incomplete.

E. phaenareta butleri Borneo.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/EuploeaPhaenaretaFUpUn.jpg/360px-EuploeaPhaenaretaFUpUn.jpg
E. camaralzeman scudderi. Borneo.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BXTkI8B-oSM/Vgbul-5u9DI/AAAAAAAAUh4/HzaYp0VoiVA/s400/Malayan%2BCrow%2B%2528Euploea%2Bcamaralzeman%2Bscu dderi%2529%2BDSC_7582.jpg

E. phaenareta castelnaui Singapore.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jqTnPRioKp0/UjnLIqxlVMI/AAAAAAAAK6I/fDFWKF9GwK4/s1600/KingCrow-SunnyC2.jpg
E. camaralzeman malayica Singapore.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dA4Xi9qepqw/T5Jv5TX9nSI/AAAAAAAAHUg/_4h45sQWp94/s1600/MalayanCrow-KSK.jpg

TL Seow : Cheers.
PS. There is a possibility this is a female & so may be E. camaralzeman scudderi.
The two females are very similar.
On the underside FW E. camaralzeman tends to have the costal spot 10 prominent.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Euploea%20camaralzeman%20malayica/Malayan%20Crow%20-%20Khew.jpg
In E. phaenareta this is absent or weak.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sEf81I4-DQM/UjnLK23f-CI/AAAAAAAAK60/F-ealnn3GMM/s1600/bcd3s-kingcrow4.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/EuploeaPhaenaretaFUpUn.jpg/360px-EuploeaPhaenaretaFUpUn.jpg

Pair E. camaralzeman malayica .,female below.
Note post 5 closely matched the female ie. FW costal spot 10 is large, & spots are sharply defined.
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_images/travels/danainae/euploeacamaralzemamalayica.pr.jpg

ID COrrection : Most likely female E. camaralzeman scudderi.

[Alan Yip]

Noted and thanks, Dr Seow