Rapala dieneces/suffusa

[atronox]

I believe this is R. dieneces from the slightly scalloped post-discal band(more or less straight in suffusa).
R. damona is probably very unlikely.

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Taken in USR sometime ago.

[Psyche]

Agreed it should be R. dieneces.
The three species are very similar on the underside & easily confused.
eg The extent of the HW orange area indicates this one below is R dieneces.
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Rapala_damona#/media/File:RapalaDamonaMUpUnAC1.jpg

TL Seow: Cheers.

[atronox]

Agreed it should be R. dieneces.
The three species are very similar on the underside & easily confused.
eg The extent of the HW orange area indicates this one below is R dieneces.
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Rapala_damona#/media/File:RapalaDamonaMUpUnAC1.jpg

TL Seow: Cheers.
Thanks, Dr Seow

[atronox]

Two old shots taken from a distance. This should be a female R. dieneces right?

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4810/45836257912_b1b835a413.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2cQoNyQ)

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[Psyche]

It should be R. dieneces.
Rather worn.
There is no suggestion it could be something else.

TL Seow: Cheers.

[atronox]

Thanks Dr Seow

[atronox]

Here are a few more Rapala which i think are dieneces but variation makes things confusing

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And one more taken from very far which i think is a male suffusa from the yellow smudge at the tornal area
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Opinions welcome :)

[Psyche]

Post 7.

The first three are R. dieneces females.
The last from its colour also looks to be R. dieneces female as the female of R. suffusa is yellow & has a strongly curved FW band.

There are many variations & uncertainty as the upperside is not available.
It is easier to show the definitive pix. All from Singapore.

R. dieneces :FW band/line fairly straight or slightly curved ;HW with orange crown more prominent.
Male & female.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Nq8JtCdenzg/T6ex5MpgMGI/AAAAAAAAFzk/7O9lOYPyrcg/s1600/DSC0150+Scarlet+Flash.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Rapala%20suffusa%20barthema/Suffused%20Flash%20-%20Chng.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRY6AmR3nQwLfyEX8Wa4-LBUfKBZk8Jpi0EI8VxAb_ucQPyait1


R. suffusa ;FW band curved/bent towards the costa ; HW orange crown yellow & indistinct. female yellow.
Males.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4188/34357928916_217742bda1_c.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7376/9857490685_e0452d3eda_b.jpg
Females.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3301/3474959465_126294c2e6.jpg
http://a4.pbase.com/g9/25/686825/2/156641755.sRe8z1wO.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Rapala%20suffusa%20barthema/Rapala-suffusa-barthema-(-Suffused-Flash)-Femaile-...-Sunny-Chir.jpg


R. damona: FW band curved/bent towards costa ;deep ochreous brown colour ;orange crown not prominent.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4683/38384382985_0bdd77b589_c.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4600/27485579769_010662737f_c.jpg
Probable female (ID'ed as suffusa in the past)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-66Xxi-yYPLc/Ux_ApPzQX9I/AAAAAAAALxM/g4QCADCzDrM/s450/SuffusedFlash-SunnyC.png
Malaya ? female damona
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OIla6IU3aBM/VK-IYq4EsDI/AAAAAAAATfQ/PI-NNtApMIM/s1600/DSC_0300.JPG

Others.
ID'ed as female R. dienecs.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSShYnsOnW4KhYhfCJBfzbrHqoBXErBx rkYHnSxgo86lWSC9gYO
ID'ed as female dieneces . Probably female R. damona.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2891/33486173603_638ecd103c_c.jpg

Id'ed as male R. suffusa.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KIPhHY0XrSM/Uhix5ckztYI/AAAAAAAALxs/AGjPT5BdySQ/s1600/HFH7114+Scarlet+Flash+(Rapala+dieneces+dieneces).j pg

ID'ed as male R.dieneces; Probably male R. damona.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQvi7XdxUrfYrlmMu17jqHH9Gt3dp1-7DEgyBBNIkv8ogyzx3Cx


TL Seow: Cheers.

[atronox]

Thx Dr Seow. The straight forewing band seems consistent in dieneces