Butterflies from Northern Thailand April 2016

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The first ones I think I have managed to ID, but would like to be sure:

Athyma cama male, female and under side all from Doi Chiang Dao:

https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7517/28154941156_a7719c2b6d_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/JTXr6W)Athyma cama ssp. cama - DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_688 (https://flic.kr/p/JTXr6W) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8710/28111100821_06a2f47313_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/JQ5JU6)Athyma cama ssp. cama - DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_680 (https://flic.kr/p/JQ5JU6) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8667/28111100491_d81f86e30c_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/JQ5JNp)Athyma cama ssp. cama - DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_684 (https://flic.kr/p/JQ5JNp) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Athyma selenophora male and underside, Doi Ang Khang:

https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8565/29470067090_fa768ff745_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/LUaNe1)Athyma selenophora - MaePerDoiAngKang_2016-04-24_564_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/LUaNe1) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8307/29680064391_77862101d8_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/MdJ678)Athyma selenophora - MaePerDoiAngKang_2016-04-24_581 (https://flic.kr/p/MdJ678) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

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Pseudergolis wedah ssp. wedah

https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8238/29760460606_5e2c59a601_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/MkQ96L)Pseudergolis wedah ssp. wedah - MaePerDoiAngKang_2016-04-24_578 (https://flic.kr/p/MkQ96L) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Pantoporia paraka ssp. paraka

https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8336/29168659634_9a81df3004_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Lrx1hJ)Pantoporia paraka ssp. paraka - DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_752 (https://flic.kr/p/Lrx1hJ) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8249/29796203725_192bc3d34a_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/MoZkhr)Pantoporia paraka ssp. paraka - DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_788 (https://flic.kr/p/MoZkhr) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Male & female Athyma cama cama are correct.

The male is very similar to A. zeroca but the the abdomen has a white band .
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/AthymaCama/01AthymaCama_RohanLovalekar_ab488.jpg
A. zeroca.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-L375pnztHWs/VZYNuKyeGfI/AAAAAAAAA-U/uh4QvxEZO8o/s1600/BBB%2B-%2B0578.jpg

The female A. cama is very similar to the female of A. nefte asta but the bands are narrower & the underside bands well-defined.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720570001.html
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720580010.html

A. selenophora is right.

Pantoporia paraka paraka is right.

The 2nd pix , the underside is that of P. hordonia/sandaka.
The upperside grey submarginal bnad is wide (wider than the orange band) indicating it is Pantoporia hordonia hordonia. orange marginal shading indicate dsf.

P. hordonia grey submarginal band broad,wider than orange band, & not broken or constricted.
Male wsf & dsf.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qBpElQKbmzk/TSSCzimVXjI/AAAAAAAADgU/YCiSCzeH9_c/s1600/%25E3%2582%25AD%25E3%2583%259F%25E3%2582%25B9%25E3 %2582%25B8%25E3%2580%2580%25EF%25BC%2591.jpg
http://www.neutron.phys.ethz.ch/Lepidoptera/Nymphalidae/P1220036.JPG
female wsf
http://images4.fotop.net/albums2/jacklau/jacklau252/DSC_2164.jpg
http://ftp.funet.fi/index/Tree_of_life/insecta/lepidoptera/ditrysia/papilionoidea/nymphalidae/limenitidinae/pantoporia/hordonia-1u.jpg

P. sandaka ;submarginal grey band narrower, irregular often constricted or interrupted.
male wsf.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Common_Lascar-DSC_0834.jpg
female wsf
http://www.indianwildlifephotographer.com/ywd-uploads/2016/2/Common_Lascar-or-Pantoporia_Hordonia.jpg

TL Seow: Cheers.

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Thx as usual Seow :-)

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I usually get the Neptis wrong, but I keep trying... For this one my own idea is Neptis sankara

https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8339/29263390473_8f8506361e_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/LzUwt4)Neptis sankara - DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_700 (https://flic.kr/p/LzUwt4) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

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No help for the first Neptis? Here is one more my guess goes to N. ananta or N. namba - hope is one of those at least...

https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8568/29817272870_f47a382fbc_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/MqRjpy)DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_667 (https://flic.kr/p/MqRjpy) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 5.

Neptis sankara is right; N. sankara have a small white spot below the cross-ban of spots, where the sharp end of th FW cell bar is pointing.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720270010.html

Post 6.

Neptis ananta.
The FW markings are that of N. ananta ie subapical crossband, & cell-bar; The HW main band is always broader.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720350010.html
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720360001.html

TL Seow: Cheers.

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Not so straight forward to count legs as I thought, but there seem to be 6, so this one must be Papilio agestor ssp. agestor, right?

It also fits that there seem to be two spots in the outer row for each in the inner row along forewing margin in Parantica sita, while here there are an equal amount in the two rows :-)

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5321/30082578266_bfa3941861_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/MQi5sw)Papilio agestor 20160423_121318ssp. agestor - 20160423_121318Doi Lang_2016-04-23_468 (https://flic.kr/p/MQi5sw) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8537/30117510195_6bdfb1b4ed_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/MTo7va)Papilio agestor 20160423_120246ssp. agestor - 20160423_120246Doi Lang_2016-04-23_460_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/MTo7va) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

All Papilionids are readily recognised by their upturned antennal clubs, large eyes , & 'invisible' palps (palpi).
These features are unique.

TL Seow: Cheers.

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All Papilionids are readily recognised by their upturned antennal clubs, large eyes , & 'invisible' palps (palpi).
These features are unique.

TL Seow: Cheers.

Thx a lot Seow - visualising the marks, I think I knew the features you mention from experience, but I did not know, that they were definite ID pointers, so thx a lot for these tips :)

And I got 1½ Neptis right! Hooray-hooray :cheers:

[Psyche]

All Papilionids are readily recognised by their upturned antennal clubs, large eyes , & 'invisible' palps (palpi).
These features are unique.


Except the more primitive subfamilies Parnassiinae (some) & Baroniinae.

TL Seow : Cheers.

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More confusing (for me!) Limenitidines:

Athyma opalina or A. perius or ?

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5578/30908279161_e1ff2a3445_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/P6g1yR)Athyma - DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_677 (https://flic.kr/p/P6g1yR) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Neptis columella?

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5785/30961620526_9bb50340d6_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PaYp6y)Neptis columella ssp. martabana - DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_820 (https://flic.kr/p/PaYp6y) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

This underside should be Neptis sankara ssp. guiltoides

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5562/30961358106_44b46371b1_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PaX465)Neptis sankara ssp. guiltoides - DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_701 (https://flic.kr/p/PaX465) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Neptis hylas

https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5593/30996730925_cabb15a1b3_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Pe5mcg)Neptis hylas - DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_648 (https://flic.kr/p/Pe5mcg) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

hmmm... two more N. hylas?

https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5798/30908688901_34d1c97925_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/P6i7nk)DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_642 (https://flic.kr/p/P6i7nk) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5523/30695218090_e2a5eeb7d1_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NLr1W7)DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_644_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/NLr1W7) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 12.

1,Athyma opalina; FW postdiscal spot 2 rounded. HW main band widen upward ; Abdomen with white band.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720620020.html
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720500001.html

2. Phaedyma (Is it now Neptis?)columella. ; FW inner margin with a large spot & a much smaller one above it; Cellend spot broadly triangular.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720470010.html

3. Neptis sankara is right.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/841/Neptis-sankara

4. Neptis hylas is right . Underside white bands edged with black.
http://www.tataiwildlife.info/butterflies/pics/neptis%20hylas%20kamarupa%20(common%20sailor)%202. jpg

5 & 6. Neptis soma. underside brownish & bands not edged with black.
HW band widens upwards.
FW submarginal spots at apex curved in.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720180010.html

TL Seow: CHeers.

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Thx a lot Seow! In 2. ed. og P. Ek-Amnuay's book columella is indeed Neptis columella. I have no idea if this is a general opinion?

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N. columella?

https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5702/25361069579_dc9bfc0f92_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ED57qk)DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_807 (https://flic.kr/p/ED57qk) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

N. hylas?

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5749/30961658706_252442d492_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PaYArQ)DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_801_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/PaYArQ) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

N. cartica? Or maybe not even a Neptis?

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5514/30880157382_340ea1e409_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/P3LSWA)Neptis - DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_800 (https://flic.kr/p/P3LSWA) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Hmmm... N. sappho?

https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5649/30695216900_0dc41bbef5_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NLr1zA)DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_694 (https://flic.kr/p/NLr1zA) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

N. hylas?

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5763/30880157782_b5445b9925_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/P3LT4u)DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_672 (https://flic.kr/p/P3LT4u) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Hmmm... N. carthica???

https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5732/30695217780_296f00b3b3_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NLr1QL)DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_654 (https://flic.kr/p/NLr1QL) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 15.

1. P. columella. Note long spot on FW lower margin.

2. N. clinia. Note FW cell bar without 'broken bone ' effect; HW base of space 3 with small white spot forming part of lower margin of main band.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720120010.html

Examples of N. hylas kamarupa.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F7jYEens0_k/VTunDvTT_YI/AAAAAAAAROI/51qDa5W1l3k/s1600/HFH_9197-Neptis-hylas-kamarupa-(Common-Sailor).jpg
http://wingscales.com/Nymphalidae/Neptis-hylas-kamarupa

3.P. columella. FW inner margin with a long spot & a very small one above.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720470010.html

4.N. soma. Note FW submarginal spots bent in; HW main band widening upwards.
Two other similar species with FW submarginal spots bent in.
N. canodes pandoces have large FW submarginal spots.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jroldenettel/8624573773/in/photostream/
N. nata have FW submarginal spots only slightly shifted in.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720190010.html

5. N. clinia ;HW with tiny spot base of space 3 forming part of main band; FW sm spots not shifted in. HW band evenly wide.

6. N. cartica is right. FW cell bar fused partially with cellend spot.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720300001.html


TL Seow:Cheers.

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Thx a lot Seow - you really are a man of admirable patience with us novices...

Here comes some more pics

First two Neptis that I think both have bent in FW submarginal spots, they do not look quite the same - one has substantially broader white band in hindwing, so maybe two different ones? Or two more N. soma?

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5738/30998717726_35bbd3b03e_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PefwNs)Neptis - MaePerDoiAngKang_2016-04-24_535 (https://flic.kr/p/PefwNs) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5728/30273553083_444b81f16e_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/N8aSBM)Neptis - Doi Lang_2016-04-18_117 (https://flic.kr/p/N8aSBM) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Hypolimnias bolina I presume?

https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5826/30920492901_34fc0af66f_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/P7kBhz)Hypolimnias bolina - Fang Hot Springs_2016-04-21_192 (https://flic.kr/p/P7kBhz) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Lethe confusa?

https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5623/30273551093_8d9affb6a3_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/N8aS2t)Lethe confusa - DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_742_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/N8aS2t) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Euripus nyctelius?

https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5808/30920487781_c62ac4e91d_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/P7kzLi)Euripus nyctelius - DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_808 (https://flic.kr/p/P7kzLi) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

The last was medium-big guy that I only saw flying, it rested in a treetop but out of sight and occasionally made a sally from there. I think I found a tentative ID, but can not find my note about it (if I made one...), any idea?

https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5746/30892144572_580c5d7965_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/P4Qjjh)Doi Lang_2016-04-23_448 (https://flic.kr/p/P4Qjjh) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

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Ahh I think I found the last one again - it must be a Menandrusa lachinus ssp. sukkiti that lost the tails?

[Psyche]

I do find it interesting to try & figure out the IDs.
I dare say there were a lot of mistakes in the past.
Admittedly these black & white Neptis can drive one crazy but with time the picture start to clear up.
There are dsf & wsf which what makes them so variable.

To recap, the 3 with the FW submarginal spots bent in at the apex are.

1. N. capnodes pandoces ;FW apical sm spots large strongly bent in . ;HW band evenly wide.

2. N. soma shania ;FW apical sm spots strongly bent in; HW band widens upwards.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720180010.html

3. N. nata adipala.:FW apical sm spots slightly bent in ;HW band evenly wide.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim1/720190010.html

The main ID point for N. soma ,the HW band widening upwards is hard to judge with the FWs down.
The spots in N soma are larger more distinct eg submarginal & HW outer row of spots.

1. Neptis soma.

2. Neptis soma ;Note the submarginal & HW outer spots are large.

3. Hypolimnas bolina jacintha is right.

4. Lethe confusa is right.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/LetheConfusa/LetheConfusa_KrushnameghKunte_af911.jpg

5. Euripus nyctilius is right.

6.Meandrusa lachinus female is right . The upturn antennae are unmistakable for a papilionid.
I think the ssp is aribbas which have more white on the FW.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/pap/10500020.html
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/pap/10500040.html


TL Seow: Cheers.

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Thx again - lucky for me that you like it :-)

My subspecies designation for M. lachinus was purely based on the P. Ek-Amnuay book, where sukkiti is said to occur at Doi Lang/Doi Pha Hom Pok. In your links from Yutaka says that BOTH these subspecies occurs there. For me as biologist that is weird, there should not be two valid subspecies occurring sympatrically, as subspecies per definition are not reproductively isolated. Except for birds maybe, where one subspecies can occur as migrant in the range of another. Maybe it is a transition where some specimens show characters of one subspecies others of another?

[Psyche]

Thx again - lucky for me that you like it :-)

My subspecies designation for M. lachinus was purely based on the P. Ek-Amnuay book, where sukkiti is said to occur at Doi Lang/Doi Pha Hom Pok. In your links from Yutaka says that BOTH these subspecies occurs there. For me as biologist that is weird, there should not be two valid subspecies occurring sympatrically, as subspecies per definition are not reproductively isolated. Except for birds maybe, where one subspecies can occur as migrant in the range of another. Maybe it is a transition where some specimens show characters of one subspecies others of another?


There are many areas where valid subspecies occur in the same place but in mostly isolated colonies. There are always lots of intermediates though.
In southern Thailand continental & Sundanian subspecies meet when the Malay peninsula joins the mainland .( It was formerly part of land mass called Sundaland. ie + Sumatra, Borneo , Java etc.)
The subspecies designation can be at the whim of the author ,
A good example will be Lebadea martha.

All males only.

Ssp. martha nothern Thailand.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7282/28285480875_4cc34f898e_b.jpg

Phuket + southern Thailand considered ssp malayana by Yutaka.
http://ftp.funet.fi/index/Tree_of_life/insecta/lepidoptera/ditrysia/papilionoidea/nymphalidae/limenitidinae/lebadea/malayana-1yu.jpg
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim2/720740010.html

Langkawi + nothern peninsular Malaysia + southern Thailand ,considered ssp martha by Eliot.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UanZjB896dg/UrZWwrLcFyI/AAAAAAAANEA/c5pW6IfO1jc/s640/HFH_0115+Lebadea+martha+martha.jpg

Singapore(Pulau Ubin) + peninsular Malaysia. true ssp malayana.
https://wanderingbutterflyeffect.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/6a0100a801ee89000e0123de08ffdd860d.jpg

Singapore + surrouding Indonesian islands.ssp parkeri.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JoE7cW6dhhY/UY2YqeMq25I/AAAAAAAAKFM/1vw9VfSRviE/s1600/HFH4037+Knight.jpg

Singapore ;intermediates between ssp malayana & parkeri.
http://img13.deviantart.net/ad7c/i/2011/043/8/d/the_knight_by_inckurei-d39cn0s.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rzo8wjfyCsM/S8V5Id-DK8I/AAAAAAAAFZE/0KU1y7UJ0Ew/s1600/K_adult_male_01_Sunny_c.jpg

TL Seow: Cheers.

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Yes - you are right. Different subspecies can occur in the same general area, if they are isolated on the very local scale as in your examples :-)

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4 Ypthima as far as I can tell 3 Y. baldus and 1 Y. confusa. The 2 first presumed Y. baldus is the same worn individual.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5668/31057672216_84bc9e1c7a_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PjsFVb)Ypthima baldus - DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_669 (https://flic.kr/p/PjsFVb) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5561/31057672986_4ec2fa7573_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PjsG9s)Ypthima baldus - DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_668 (https://flic.kr/p/PjsG9s) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5481/31093330785_d58eb0331b_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PnBrY6)Ypthima baldus - DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_671 (https://flic.kr/p/PnBrY6) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5321/30950919642_f4c561f795_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Pa2y6y)Ypthima confusa - DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_670 (https://flic.kr/p/Pa2y6y) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Moduza procris ssp. procris

https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5335/30287964103_874c8bff46_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/N9rJvD)Moduza procris ssp. procris - DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_799 (https://flic.kr/p/N9rJvD) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

??? I thought I knew this one, but no...

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5475/31058325126_9e79873c2a_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Pjw31f)DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_805 (https://flic.kr/p/Pjw31f) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 23.

The Ypthima are particularly difficult.

Agreed 1, 2, & are Y. baldus.
Underside ground colour pale yellowish (buff).
HW with a pair of curved dark fascia.
Hw spot 6 always smaller than spot 5.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Ypthima%20baldus%20newboldi/CFR_mating_pair_Bobby.jpg

2 other very similar species.

Y singorensis : HW dark fascia somewhat straighter in alignment.
http://www.ksl-auction.com/auction.cgi?acc=disp&no=1429614988&t=1346208213

Y. nebulosa. Ground colour whiter & more contrasting. FW ocellus rounded vs oval in the other two.
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_images/linkbuttons/butterflies/satyrinae/ypthimasingorensis/underside.jpg


4 may be Y. watsoni. HW tornal two spots larger & touching.
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_images/travels/satyrinae/ypthimawatsoniwatsoni.v.jpg Image is actually Y. confusa.

Y. confusa.
http://www.glennmorris.org.uk/vietnambirds/1-RingletSpp.jpg

5. Charaxes marmax. The upperside markings match correctly.
http://g02.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1VDHFHVXXXXaiXXXXq6xXFXXXq/FOUSEN-Nature-Art-Charaxes-marmax-Parantica-sita-triangle-paper-bag-insect.jpg
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/1a_7/3054753bfddc4d1972.jpg

TL Seow: Cheers.

[Psyche]

4 is probably right as Y. confusa.

Reading the original description doesnt help.
There are dsf & wsf so ocelli size varies.
Correct images of Y. confusa are darker.

Y. watsoni.
http://archive.org/stream/lepidopteraindic02moor#page/n197/mode/1up
4wsf, 4a-c dsf.
http://archive.org/stream/lepidopteraindic02moor#page/n188/mode/1up
http://archive.org/stream/transactionsofen1893roya#page/46/mode/1up

Y. confusa.
http://ci.nii.ac.jp/els/110003500348.pdf?id=ART0006019444&type=pdf&lang=en&host=cinii&order_no=&ppv_type=0&lang_sw=&no=1479554411&cp=

These images should be correct.
Y. watsoni ID Correction: Y..confusa : HW spot 6 muchlarger than spot 2.
http://m6.i.pbase.com/g9/25/686825/2/155557166.SwRC9pck.jpg
Y. confusa. ID correct.
http://wingscales.com/content/record/1817-1-57e7d.jpg

TL Seow: Cheers.

[Psyche]

4 is correctly Ypthima confusa.

Found the difference in the key provided by Uemura in his revision on Ypthima of Vietnam.

Y. confusa ;HW spot 6 much larger than spot 2.

Y. watsoni. HW spot 6 about the same size as spot 2. (similar to Y. pandocus but the ground evenly striated.)
correct image of Y. watsoni Thailand.
http://paro6.dnp.go.th/paro6_technical/tone_nga_chang/insect/%E0%B8%9C%E0%B8%B5%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B7%E0%B 9%89%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%95%E0%B8%B2% E0%B8%A5%E0%B8%88%E0%B8%B8%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%95%E0%B8 %B2%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B1%E 0%B8%95%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%99%20(%E0%B8%97%E0 %B9%89%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%87)Ypthima%20watsoni%20penin sulae%20Aoki%20&%20%20Uermura.jpg

TL Seow:Cheers.

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Thx a lot again for your diligent help - I hope you really do enjoy it :-)

[guldsmed]

Last nymphalid and first lycaenids...

Euthalia aconthea ssp. garuda?

https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5450/30321188243_3e6fcf48b7_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Nco1TD)Euthalia aconthea ssp. garuda - Thaton_2016-04-17_16 (https://flic.kr/p/Nco1TD) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Leptotes plinius

https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5550/30321297223_5b78d16f53_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NcozhB)Leptotes plinius - Thaton_2016-04-17_9 (https://flic.kr/p/NcozhB) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5654/31128165535_63ee7835cb_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PqFZ8e)MaePerDoiAngKang_2016-04-24_576 (https://flic.kr/p/PqFZ8e) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Celastrina?

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5342/30321297873_8727a5f9fa_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NcoztP)MaePerDoiAngKang_2016-04-24_558 (https://flic.kr/p/NcoztP) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5528/31128165655_92de81e9e5_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PqFZai)MaePerDoiAngKang_2016-04-24_557_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/PqFZai) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5529/30321297523_2ebb1424b4_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NcoznM)MaePerDoiAngKang_2016-04-24_542 (https://flic.kr/p/NcoznM) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Thx a lot again for your diligent help - I hope you really do enjoy it :-)

Well, a successful ID would be enjoyable.

Post 28.

1 E. aconthea garuda female is right.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim2/721230010.html

3. Sinthusa nasaka.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/SinthusaNasaka/SinthusaNasaka_MilindBhakare_am664.jpg

4. shoyld be Udara dilecta.
HW discal spot 7 not darker than others.
Submarginal spots/lunules present. faint but complete.
3 species in contention.
U. coalita :submarginal lunules washed out before apices of both wings; probably out of range.
U. rona; Underside darker with ?heavier markings.
http://www5c.biglobe.ne.jp/~mmmworld/s2/s2s3/s2s3s2/s232_sjUdar1.html
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Udara_(Udara)#/media/File:UdaraDilectaDilectaMFUpUnAC3.jpg
U. rona.
http://www.lycaenidae.gmxhome.de/Lycaenopsis/Udara/ronacatius1.jpg

5. Ionolyce helicon.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7cpfvvh_edQ/Uc-JZTcZNtI/AAAAAAAAK1U/H8YevXJxuYY/s660/HFH_5447-Pointed-Line-Blue-(Ionolyce-helicon-merguiana).jpg

6. Arhopala khamti.
Two similar species .A khamti have the HW tornal metallic blue/green patch.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/1a_10/av005.jpg
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/1a_10/av001.jpg

TL Seow:Cheers.

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Thx a lot - are you sure about the last one? Mine seems a lot greyer and more contrasty on the underside and has stouter tails? On the other hand: I found also this one: http://www.butterflycircle.com/showthread.php?15119-Doi-Pha-Hom-Pok-Doi-Lang-March-2016&p=129871#post129871 which looks more like mine but still less contrasty. There are toooo many Arhopala :-)

[guldsmed]

Still got the blues for blues...

Rapala?

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5635/31104064746_8f8ac4471f_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PoysNo)DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_757 (https://flic.kr/p/PoysNo) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5493/31103927256_7461355eec_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PoxKVS)DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_840_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/PoxKVS) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

J. celeno?

https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5322/31103927636_8d520f2200_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PoxL3q)Jamides - DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_849_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/PoxL3q) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5525/31140236155_843bd2f453_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PrKRin)DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_851_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/PrKRin) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5766/31103927846_38235c11b3_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PoxL73)DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_861_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/PoxL73) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

This one I got (I hope): Hypolycaena othona ssp. othona

https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5735/31140236295_6551438b69_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PrKRkM)Hypolycaena othona ssp. othona - DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_870_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/PrKRkM) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Thx a lot - are you sure about the last one? Mine seems a lot greyer and more contrasty on the underside and has stouter tails? On the other hand: I found also this one: http://www.butterflycircle.com/showthread.php?15119-Doi-Pha-Hom-Pok-Doi-Lang-March-2016&p=129871#post129871 which looks more like mine but still less contrasty. There are toooo many Arhopala :-)

Oops ! You are right it should be a A. trax.

HW postdiscal spot 7 is on top of spot 6, not shifted in (towards base)
HW postdiscal band completely dislocated at vein 2.
It is a member of the alea group, 3 similar species.
The FW band outer margin is crenate indicating A. atrax.

http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/1135/Arhopala-atrax
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/sp/644/Arhopala-alea
A. alax.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Yp4Dhy3UcXA/VU4fp6-bCpI/AAAAAAAARbY/B-YBfvoFUeo/s1600/HFH_9824-Arhopala%2Balax%2B(Silver%2BOakblue).jpg

(Your link brought up another mistake.
Antonio's shot is not A. oenea as HW spot 6 is astride spot 5 & the cellend bar. In oenea spot 6 is far from the cellend.
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5689/23470361139_812bb0fc39_c.jpg
The key indicates it is a member of the atosia group, 2 ssp in Thailand atosia & lurida but no match. Perhaps dsf atosia.
http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/sci/bio/life/insecta/lepidoptera/ditrysia/papilionoidea/lycaenidae/theclinae/arhopala/malayana-1av.jpg)

TL Seow: Cheers.

[Psyche]

Post 31.

1 Rapala varuna female.
Normally here in the south this have a strong purple wash.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/649/Rapala-varuna
Singapore male & female.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Rapala%20varuna%20orseis/indigo%20flash%20-%20Benedict.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-n9gQjyncVdI/VKVG2zf6DEI/AAAAAAAASw4/sFTuqj63vH4/s1600/DSC_0040.JPG

2. Zizeeria maha.

3.Probably female J. pura
White striae well aligned; HW silvery side bars of black spots long, so black spot appears rectangular.
Also the female pura has less rounded wings.
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5494/14239610788_5965d57a1b_c.jpg
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/1a_7/a-29245.jpg
Female J. celeno.
http://res.cloudinary.com/ppc1/image/upload/v1467635912/qkuvzt6nbcfx5jtsw8in.jpg

4. Chilades putli.fermale.
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chilades_putli#/media/File:PutliThailandUpUnAC1.jpg

5. Euchrysops cnejus.
http://www.flutters.org/home/photogallery/plog-content/images/butterfly--id-keys/blues---lycaenidae/plains_cupid_gram_blue_sunny_chir.jpg

6. Hypolycaena othona is right.
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hypolycaena_othona#/media/File:HypolycaenaOthonaMUpUnAC1.jpg

TL Seow: Cheers.

[guldsmed]

Thx a lot - also for the correction regarding the Arhopla :-) - more lycaenids:

First two pics of a big Arhopala, not same individual but same species I believe. My own guess is A. centaurus:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5536/30341316864_2d9bc67071_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NeabqQ)DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_772_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/NeabqQ) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5774/30341317064_51216be5d5_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Neabuh)DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_779 (https://flic.kr/p/Neabuh) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Next two probably also only one species:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5531/31162456345_44fc49129d_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PtHJA6)DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_758 (https://flic.kr/p/PtHJA6) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5780/31048319911_7e97e61abf_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PiCKNx)DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_766 (https://flic.kr/p/PiCKNx) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

This could be E. cnejus again?

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5744/31126531016_2a71b52835_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PqxBeS)Euchrysops cnejus - DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_835_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/PqxBeS) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

This looks similar to some Acytolepis I took in Khao Soi Dao years ago, so I guess that genus? What about the arctiine?

https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5772/31162456895_caa229bb1f_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PtHJKz)Acytolepis - DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_761 (https://flic.kr/p/PtHJKz) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 33.

1. Arhopala centaurus is the only Arhopala here with FW cellspots metallic green.
Clarification Ac 2nd with metallic green=lined cellspot is A.amantes but the FW lack costal spot 10, $ FW postdiscal spot 4 is dislocated out.
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Arhopala_amantes_amatrix#/media/File:ArhopalaAmantesAmatrixMFUpUnAC1.jpg

2. Female unknown .They all look alike. A. centaurus have very thick shorter tails.

3 & 4 Jamides bochus.
HW discal band forms a sharp spike near the inner margin diagnostic of Jamides.

5.Zizeeria maha.
E. cnejus have two orange spots.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6004/6017326055_f4d73aa406_b.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Zizeeria%20maha%20serica/PGB_adult_Jonathan_01.jpg
Z. karsandra.
http://m3.i.pbase.com/o4/25/686825/1/99345863.LAu1mlPe.ZizinaotislampaLesserGrassBlue.j pg


6. Probably correct as Acytolepis puspa.
FW potdiscal spots more misaligned: HW discal spot 7 large & rounded.
http://www.biolib.cz/IMG/GAL/36117.jpg
http://www.learnaboutbutterflies.com/Acytolepis%20puspa%20lambi%20001a.jpg

A. lilacea.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2014/97_463-292-542d1f19c8649-1.jpg
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/AcytolepisLilacea/AcytolepisLilacea_KrushnameghKunte_af852.jpg


Moth is a Clearwing Moth Family Sesiidae.

TL Seow: Cheers.

[guldsmed]

Oops - I did mean that the pair was the same as #2 in preceeding batch (Zizeeria maha) - just somehow copied the wrong name :embrass:

Thx a lot for the rest. I do not believe you are correct, though, about the moth. I think it is an arctiinae (subtribe Ctenuchina or Euchromiina - probably the latter) similar to

https://www.flickr.com/photos/itchydogimages/6328667411/in/album-72157627662909659/

and

https://www.flickr.com/photos/itchydogimages/6328670257/in/album-72157627662909659/

I think he is incorrect in placing these pics in Syntomini, but if it is correct mine probably goes there too).

[Psyche]

Oops - I did mean that the pair was the same as #2 in preceeding batch (Zizeeria maha) - just somehow copied the wrong name :embrass:

Thx a lot for the rest. I do not believe you are correct, though, about the moth. I think it is an arctiinae (subtribe Ctenuchina or Euchromiina - probably the latter) similar to

https://www.flickr.com/photos/itchydogimages/6328667411/in/album-72157627662909659/

and

https://www.flickr.com/photos/itchydogimages/6328670257/in/album-72157627662909659/

I think he is incorrect in placing these pics in Syntomini, but if it is correct mine probably goes there too).


You are right. I just make a quick guess, pressed for time.
I have not seen any Syntomini in which both wings are completely clear .& the antennae are not visible.
Sesiidae have plenty of those clear wings although the antennae are thick.

It appears to Caeneressa.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/itchydogimages/21055531636
Some websites state C. diphana but this appears incorrect.
female
http://dearlep.tw/species.html?namecode=343811

C. diaphana.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-6/syntominae/syntominae-5-1.php
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Caeneressa_diaphana

TL Seow: Cheers.

[Psyche]

Not sure if the moth belongs in the genus Caeneressa.

On the FW vein 5 & 6 comes out together (marked by a narrow black band) before diverging out.
In Caeneressa the two veins are well apart.
The orange on the thorax also do not match.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/itchydogimages/21055531636

It also does not match Sinobug's other shot which have the cellend origin of veins 5 & 6 far from the costa(forward margin);likewise the thorax orange also do not match.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/itchydogimages/6328670257/in/album-72157627662909659/


TL Seow: Cheers.

[guldsmed]

No, I do not think it is an exact match either, but something like that... :-)

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More Arhopala from the same place:

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5459/31145098286_264bf0db7f_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PsbLDd)DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_774 (https://flic.kr/p/PsbLDd) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5829/31037462512_779e65819a_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PhF7h1)DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_782_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/PhF7h1) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Upperside of worn one

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5579/31145098426_45a5a533e1_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PsbLFC)DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_783_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/PsbLFC) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Same underside

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5655/30359580694_35632dfdc4_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NfLMCs)DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_787 (https://flic.kr/p/NfLMCs) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Flos diardi?

https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5750/31145098556_07b45cb105_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PsbLHS)Flos sp. - DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_812 (https://flic.kr/p/PsbLHS) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr


Castalius rosimon ssp. rosimon

https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5755/30373762143_2ee9a39f62_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Nh2thc)Castalius rosimon ssp. rosimon - DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_830_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/Nh2thc) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 40.

1. Arhopala silhetensis HW spot 7 atop spot 6. HWpostdiscal band completely dislocated at vein 2. Markings with wide spacing.
https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arhopala_silhetensis#/media/File:ArhopalaSilhetensisSilhetensisMFUpUnAC1.jpg


2 A. centaurus. short thick tails; zooming in FW with costal spot 10 present.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Arhopala%20centaurus%20nakula/Centaur%20Oakblue%20140808.jpg

Actually A. amantes is another with metallic green on the FW cellspots but FW spot 10 absent & postdiscal spot 4 is shifted out; HW markings sharper.
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Arhopala_amantes_amatrix#/media/File:ArhopalaAmantesAmatrixMFUpUnAC1.jpg

3 & 4. Two large parts of HW torn off, but combination of underside & upperside indicates A. silhetensis male.
FW border increased at apex.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2014/97_563-795-543547d8ca6eb-1.jpg

Note A. silhetensis have long t6ails, & so the female in post 34 is very likely this.

5. Flos asoka. HW with a basal pale band.Tail long. A. chinensis is somewhat similar but with short tails.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/119_5683-310-55344d1f25d75-1.jpg
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/tx/368-Flos


TL Seow: Cheers.

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Thx a lot :-)

A. centaurus?

https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5653/31085444981_748009ef63_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PmV2MX)Fang Hot Springs_2016-04-20_6 (https://flic.kr/p/PmV2MX) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

I see some similarity to Tajuria albiplaga but...

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5657/30832308510_86d4a897e9_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NYxD93)Fang Hot Springs_2016-04-21_79 (https://flic.kr/p/NYxD93) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Prosotas dubiosa?

https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5671/30378422084_c0544905f9_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Nhrmw1)Fang Hot Springs_2016-04-21_93 (https://flic.kr/p/Nhrmw1) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Arhopala atrax again?

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5658/30832308730_90c7a23585_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NYxDcQ)Fang Hot Springs_2016-04-21_118 (https://flic.kr/p/NYxDcQ) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Maybe Zizinia? Or not...

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5833/30378422314_8e8ddcb9bc_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NhrmzY)Fang Hot Springs_2016-04-21_196 (https://flic.kr/p/NhrmzY) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 42.

1. Arhopala centaurus is right ? dsf ;:thick tails FW with spot 10.

2.Tajuria cippus male. :postdiscal line broken into separated streaks.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NYT7kYpjMWQ/VA694ig3l_I/AAAAAAAAfF0/U4MPhAuDmpU/s1600/PR_adult_Khew_01.jpg
T. albipraga ;FW postdiscal line/band not broken into streaks; HW black spot completely surrounded with orange.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/83330001.html

3. Nacaduba dubiosa is right.

4. Arhopala atrax is right.

5. Zizinz otis.

TL Seow: CHeers.

4.

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Thx a lot. Two metalmarks Dodonea ouida and Zemeros flegyas, I presume

https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5823/31103800851_5574eeec91_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Pox7mt)Dodonea ouida ssp. ouida- Doi Lang_2016-04-23_439 (https://flic.kr/p/Pox7mt) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5674/30396604574_0395d2fedc_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Nj3xxd)Dodonea ouida ssp. ouida- Doi Lang_2016-04-23_445_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/Nj3xxd) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5662/30396604784_0f6c6cac93_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Nj3xAQ)Zemeros flegyas ssp. allica - MaePerDoiAngKang_2016-04-24_527_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/Nj3xAQ) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5752/31103801441_0f6c6cac93_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Pox7wD)Zemeros flegyas ssp. allica - MaePerDoiAngKang_2016-04-24_530 (https://flic.kr/p/Pox7wD) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Heliophorus - one of the purple saphires, but which one?

https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5802/31105005851_ded186ce96_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PoDhyk)Heliophorus - DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_652 (https://flic.kr/p/PoDhyk) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5751/30397742474_fc8bbc9cf3_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Nj9nNb)Heliophorus - DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_656 (https://flic.kr/p/Nj9nNb) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 44.

1 & 2 ,Dodona ouida & Zemeros flegyas are right.

3. The Heliophorus can be very difficult.
The images are also much mixed up on the net.

Three species to consider. The uppersides varies in subspecies & forms.

H. epicles can be eliminated as the underside HW border protrude farther inwards in space 6.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/HeliophorusEpicles/HeliophorusEpicles_pareshkale_al938.jpg
Fehttp://farm2.static.flickr.com/1195/5126055128_29b8715689_b.jpgmale Malaya.


The other two seem impossible to be ID'ed with certainty.

H. ila Malaya & Taiwan . H. indicus is absent in these two areas.
H. ila malaya male.
https://c3.staticflickr.com/5/4133/5161348490_d770d3598f_b.jpg
Female Taiwan ssp matsumurae.
http://orig14.deviantart.net/fc48/f/2008/256/6/c/heliophorus_ila_matsumurae_iv_by_fire.jpg
https://wanderingbutterflyeffect.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/heliophorus-ila-matsumurae-female.jpg
Thailand ;Looks correct
http://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Heliophorus-ila-nolus


Heliophorus indicus. H. ila is absent in India.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/1a_7/av009.jpg
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/1a_7/av010.jpg


Based on the upperside :1 FW orange patch wider; 2. HW tornal black triangles larger it looks to be Heliophorus indicus.


TL Seow: Cheers.

[Psyche]

Post 44 no. 3 .Female Heliophorus epiclrs latilimbata.

The upperside is very variable.

On the underside ,the HW red border protrude farther in space 6 & is not level with the border in space 4 & 5.
It also match this female.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/94_3522-474-54c766caca026-1.jpg
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/sp/728/Heliophorus-epicles

The Malayan ssp tweediei is similar.
female
http://m0.i.pbase.com/o4/25/686825/1/102371680.TsWQoZvl.Heliophorusepiclestweedieifemal e.jpg
http://m1.i.pbase.com/o4/25/686825/1/102371681.xum3uOeh.Heliophorusepiclestweedieifemal eup.jpg
male.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4022/5125448351_4820538ac3_b.jpg

Compare with H. ila nolus.
http://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Heliophorus-ila-nolus

TL Seow: Cheers.

[guldsmed]

Thx again. - My own guess about the Heliophorus was the same as your first one (H. indicus) - mostly based on the shape of orange patch on forewing upperside, but I will note it as H. epicles latilimbata based on your argumentation :-)

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Some more:

First three Heliophorus from Doi Lang. The first two are undoubtedly H. brahma ssp. mogoka which I seem to see every time I am there. The third one is likely the same, but can H. evanta be excluded?

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5509/31233000785_c1737609d0_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PzXhZx)Heliophorus brahma ssp. mogoka - Doi Lang_2016-04-18_81 (https://flic.kr/p/PzXhZx) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5516/30865450640_6b5f0c42cc_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/P2tv95)Heliophorus brahma ssp. mogoka - Doi Lang_2016-04-18_87_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/P2tv95) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5617/30865450580_aebbecaedc_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/P2tv83)Heliophorus - Doi Lang_2016-04-18_101 (https://flic.kr/p/P2tv83) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Which Arhopala - under and upper side of same individual.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5442/30865450440_b62bb96444_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/P2tv5C)Arhopala - DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_618 (https://flic.kr/p/P2tv5C) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5503/30865450410_decc0f3097_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/P2tv57)Arhopala - DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_620_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/P2tv57) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Caerulea coeligena I believe. Missing top most spot, but so does the one in lower pic here: http://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Caerulea-coeligena

https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5749/31118736591_6f4fa3494f_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PpREee)Caerulea coeligena - Doi Lang_2016-04-18_85 (https://flic.kr/p/PpREee) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

I think I have figured out the diffrence between H. ila & indicus.

The 3 similar species.

H. epicles.
HW inner margin of red border in space 6 extends inwards ; white lunule in sp ace 6 welldefined with black.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/HeliophorusEpicles/HeliophorusEpicles_KrushnameghKunte_ah997.jpg
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/2015/171_3868-807-54de28612949e-2.jpg
Malaya.
http://www.learnaboutbutterflies.com/Heliophorus%20epicles%20020d.jpg

H. ila.
HW inner margin of red border in space 6 more or less level with the others; white lunule in space 6 welldefined.
http://wingscales.com/content/record/1826-1-78c9b.jpg
Taiwan
https://wanderingbutterflyeffect.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/e7b4abe697a5e781b0e89db6-e7b485e9828ae9bb83e5b08fe781b0e89db6-heliophorus-ila-matsumurae-restricted-purple-sapphire-2.jpg
Malaya
https://c3.staticflickr.com/5/4133/5161348490_d770d3598f_b.jpg

H. indicus.
HW inner margin of red border in space 6 more or less level with the others; HW white lunule in space 6 poorly defined, with little or no black lining.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/1a_7/av009.jpg
http://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Heliophorus-indicus
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/4c/de/58/4cde589501217c85ac67de523e22dfbe.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0PE2s45hdV8/ViT-xK0U92I/AAAAAAAABII/bofbUBVtBUI/s1600/BBB%2B-%2B1A7561.jpg

TL Seow : Cheers.

[Psyche]

Post 48.

1, 2, 3 Heliophorus brahma.
FW without red border. Although the FW line/band is wavy, the long tails ID'ed it.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/sp/789/Heliophorus-brahma

H. androcles have shorter stiff tails.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/c6/60/45/c66045e2279d546c1efe91ea18020d56.jpg
H. evanta have very short tails.
http://m5.i.pbase.com/g9/25/686825/2/155598285.2tswG1Wp.jpg


4. Arhopala paralea.
HW spot 7 atop spot 6; postdiscal band partially dislocated at vein 2; no green metallic scales.
https://s32.postimg.org/i9bwyk4it/arhopalaparalea_v.jpg

5 is right.

TL Seow: Cheers.

[guldsmed]

Thx for all your ID pointers - much appreciated :-)

Last lycaenids & riodinids from the north:

Theclinae:

https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5452/31254136965_cb89760911_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PBPC3r)DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_699 (https://flic.kr/p/PBPC3r) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Udara or Celastrina?

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5719/31110439192_35495c9214_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Pp88GC)DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_685 (https://flic.kr/p/Pp88GC) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Prosotas nora?

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5624/31110438632_1b2a1ecd53_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Pp88wY)Prosotas nora - DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_658 (https://flic.kr/p/Pp88wY) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

A worn Abisara - I guess A. neophron ssp. chelina but I am a bit in doubt if it could be A. fylla instead?

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5546/30886507720_5d92c2cc68_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/P4kqFb)Abisara - DenYaKatDoiCDao_2016-04-25_660 (https://flic.kr/p/P4kqFb) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 51.

1 Rapala nissa ranta. orange brown cilia & straight band which forms a loop in HW space 1b.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/RapalaNissa/RapalaNissa_KrushnameghKunte_ag458.jpg

2. Udara dilecta. :the submarginal lunules are faint but visible.

3.Probably Prosotas pia female.
The marginal & submarginal spots are mostly washed out.
Very difficult as the female of P. nora looks identical.
Male Thailand.
http://ftp.funet.fi/index/Science/bio/life/insecta/lepidoptera/ditrysia/papilionoidea/lycaenidae/polyommatinae/prosotas/sp-1v.jpg

P. nora
Singapore.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/checklist/mugshots/Prosotas%20nora%20superdates/Common-Line-Blue---2---JZ.jpg
Females. Yunnan
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8163/7654236992_a7096f4abd_b.jpg
India.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/ProsotasNora/ProsotasNora_KSaji_ac719.jpg

4. A. neophoron ; HW margin & black spots edged with white; lighter brown.
http://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Abisara-neophron-chelina
http://wingscales.com/Lycaenidae/Abisara-fylla-fylla

TL Seow: Cheers.

[guldsmed]

Thx again. Here comes the few hesperiides I got:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5633/31122976992_95704ef9de_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PqeoKA)Uaspes folus - Thaton_2016-04-17_12 (https://flic.kr/p/PqeoKA) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5469/30899444900_f1ddcb0781_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/P5tJs1)Sarangesa dasahara ssp. dasahara - DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_856_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/P5tJs1) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5696/31122977152_795f8df522_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PqeoNm)Lobocla liliana ssp. liliana - Doi Lang_2016-04-18_93 (https://flic.kr/p/PqeoNm) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5753/31267235785_72c179fc31_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PCYKSa)Celaenorrhinus - Doi Lang_2016-04-18_78 (https://flic.kr/p/PCYKSa) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5781/30899445190_26539ab39b_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/P5tJx1)Doi Lang_2016-04-18_76 (https://flic.kr/p/P5tJx1) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5755/31122977522_fb1745df6a_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PqeoUJ)Doi Lang_2016-04-18_68 (https://flic.kr/p/PqeoUJ) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 53.

1. Udaspes folus

2.[I] Saranges dasahara[/I is right.

3.Lobocla liliana is right.

4 .No6tocrypta feisthamelii. FW white band extend to costa on the underside.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/sp/783/Notocrypta-feisthamelii
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/NotocryptaCurvifascia/NotocryptaCurvifascia_KSaji_ad337.jpg

5. Polytremis eltola.
HW tornal cilia ochreous . Worn specimen can be difficult.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/sp/808/Polytremis-eltola

P. discreta ;HW tornal cilia white (especially on the upperside..
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/#!/sp/512/Polytremis-discreta

TL Seow: Cheers.

[guldsmed]

Thx a lot for the nice additions to my hesperiid list :-) Here comes some swallowtails:

Graphium nomius ssp. swinhoei

https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5803/30503985373_686d053473_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NtwU7i)Graphium nomius ssp. swinhoei - Fang Hot Springs_2016-04-21_114 (https://flic.kr/p/NtwU7i) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Graphium macareus

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5718/30943411090_512c178dbb_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/P9n54L)Graphium macareus - DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_821 (https://flic.kr/p/P9n54L) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Atrophaneura polyeuctes ssp. polyeuctes

https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5491/31311637675_5d78cf00ae_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PGUjZZ)Atrophaneura polyeuctes ssp. polyeuctes - DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_794 (https://flic.kr/p/PGUjZZ) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Papilio paris

https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5572/30503986143_5b0fce236f_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NtwUkz)Papilio paris - DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_798_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/NtwUkz) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Papilio polytes?

https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5478/31311637875_365c69af81_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PGUk4r)Chiang Dao_2016-04-25_746 (https://flic.kr/p/PGUk4r) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Pachcliopta aristolochiae?

https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5755/30503985893_fcae2faf52_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NtwUgg)Fang Hot Springs_2016-04-20_10_closer (https://flic.kr/p/NtwUgg) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 5.

5 & 6 Ids as they are.

P. polytes have black body & more triangular FWs.

P. aristolochiae have red/pink body & narrower FWs.

TL Seow: Cheers.

[guldsmed]

Thx again - a few pierids:

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5340/31169645682_3458b18012_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PumzJb)Catopsilia pomona ssp. pomona f. alcmeone - Fang Hot Springs_2016-04-21_128 (https://flic.kr/p/PumzJb) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5783/31169645432_20489623a7_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PumzDS)Catopsilia pomona ssp. pomona f. alcmeone - Fang Hot Springs_2016-04-21_186 (https://flic.kr/p/PumzDS) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5564/31313793045_35a166a56e_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PH6nHx)Prioneris thestylis ssp. thestylis - Fang Hot Springs_2016-04-21_183 (https://flic.kr/p/PH6nHx) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5627/31277594066_579e6a3001_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PDTR2d)Pieris brassicae - DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_845_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/PDTR2d) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5492/31169645862_08030b29e1_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PumzMh)Pieris brassicae - DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_781 (https://flic.kr/p/PumzMh) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[guldsmed]

The last (I think..) from this trip to Northern Thailand are some Rohana, but are the R. parisatis or R. tonkiniana?

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5665/31278258026_b9f4740430_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PDXfoN)Fang Hot Springs_2016-04-20_4 (https://flic.kr/p/PDXfoN) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5494/31314525915_c3954b5db2_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PHa8ze)Fang Hot Springs_2016-04-20_0_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/PHa8ze) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5473/31278258336_e0465a3570_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PDXfu9)DoiChiangDao NP_2016-04-26_804 (https://flic.kr/p/PDXfu9) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

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Post 57.

1, & 2 .Captopsilia pomona male form alcmeone.

3. Prioneris thestylis is right.

4.& 5 Artogeia rapae. FW with basal black dusting ;HW without upperside marginal spots.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/pie/20350010.html

P. canidia FW with basal black dusting; FW black border extend downwards (see-thru); HW(upperside) with black marginal spors (see-thru)
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/pie/20360001.html

P. brassicae; FW without basal black scaling; HW (upperside) without marginal spots.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/PierisBrassicae/PierisBrassicae_MilindBhakare_am790.jpg


Post 58.

All Rohana tonkiniana. Male FW outer margin (termen) slightly or barely excavated(concave) ; HW more rounded .
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/apa/750020010.html

Rohana parisatis; FW termen strongly excavated; HW more elongate, with a more distinct tornal lobe.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/apa/750010020.html


TL Seow: Cheers.

[guldsmed]

Thx a lot. Regarding the the cabbage ones: In the field my own ID was A. rapae, but when I saw the pics, I thought I had made a silly mistake, as the apical spot seemed to continue far down the outer edge of forewing and changed to P. brassicae. But actually you can not see it well enough on the pics to judge the extent without a clear upperside pic. So the silly mistake was changing my mind... Very silly as both species are common in Denmark and I am never in doubt here :-D.