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Angiud
11-Mar-2016, 11:25 PM
Sadly not my shot, but from my good local friend Satawan Atdhabhan of Betong. We are not sure if is Drupadia cinesoides or johorensis

http://i65.tinypic.com/30xc1tl.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/10z6yww.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/35ic9ja.jpg

Psyche
12-Mar-2016, 01:20 AM
It is Drupadia johorensis.

The difference between the two is very slight.

In D. cinesoides the HW postdiscal band is more sinuous forming a more distinct 'dome' in space 2 ,& the 'tooth is sharper.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/83150001.html

D. johorensis.
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_images/travels/largerphotos/drupadiajohorensis.v.jpg

TL Seow: Cheers.

Angiud
12-Mar-2016, 08:12 AM
Thanks Dr. Show. From Satawan too. :bsmile:

atronox
12-Mar-2016, 06:01 PM
Stunning!!

atronox
12-Mar-2016, 09:18 PM
It is Drupadia johorensis.

The difference between the two is very slight.

In D. cinesoides the HW postdiscal band is more sinuous forming a more distinct 'dome' in space 2 ,& the 'tooth is sharper.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/83150001.html

D. johorensis.
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_images/travels/largerphotos/drupadiajohorensis.v.jpg

TL Seow: Cheers.
I notice that in johorensis the orange is very dull and almost "rust-brown" and this is too vibrant orange for johorensis. Could this be cinesia?

Psyche
12-Mar-2016, 10:57 PM
Orange in photos is very difficult to judge, often too deep, (eg. Telicota).

Drupardia cinesia lacks the orange band/line in HW space 1b.
Fig 19.
http://archive.org/stream/illustrationsofd02hewi#page/n58/mode/1up

Similarly so does D. cineas.
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/CineasFUn_500_AC1.jpg&imgrefurl=https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CineasFUn_500_AC1.jpg&h=1659&w=1157&tbnid=i2JyiIyhvPPIuM:&docid=uXJJS_SsqAetkM&itg=1&ei=5xPkVrn5GMGouQSB26PoCw&tbm=isch&ved=0ahUKEwj5iNeFm7vLAhVBVI4KHYHtCL0QMwgdKAEwAQ

TL Seow: Cheers.

atronox
13-Mar-2016, 02:51 AM
Orange in photos is very difficult to judge, often too deep, (eg. Telicota).

Drupardia cinesia lacks the orange band/line in HW space 1b.
Fig 19.
http://archive.org/stream/illustrationsofd02hewi#page/n58/mode/1up

Similarly so does D. cineas.
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/CineasFUn_500_AC1.jpg&imgrefurl=https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CineasFUn_500_AC1.jpg&h=1659&w=1157&tbnid=i2JyiIyhvPPIuM:&docid=uXJJS_SsqAetkM&itg=1&ei=5xPkVrn5GMGouQSB26PoCw&tbm=isch&ved=0ahUKEwj5iNeFm7vLAhVBVI4KHYHtCL0QMwgdKAEwAQ

TL Seow: Cheers.
I'm sorry i meant cinesoides. cinesia is endemic to Borneo.

Psyche
13-Mar-2016, 08:24 AM
I'm sorry i meant cinesoides. cinesia is endemic to Borneo.


You do have a point, but as I said before the colour is deceptive in field shots.

The differences are so slight that individual variations may be a problem.
Besides the more sinuous postdiscal band, the 'valley ' between the two 'peaks' in space 1b is deeper & sharper in cinesoides.
Hopefully there is a good field shot for comparison in the future.

The colour difference is probably like that between Manto hypoleuca & Mantoides gama.
M. gama recorded in Singapore is probably still extant , perhaps mistaken for Manto.

TL Seow : Cheers.