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Tarucus
19-Nov-2014, 04:47 AM
After great help of Dr Seow now i do not mistake every smaller Pelopidas as being mathias :bsmile:

for example this one which I have identified as P. agna.

Is it right? [I was asked to recheck it for P. thrax]:thinking:

Need confirmation. Dr Seow plz help :)


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Psyche
19-Nov-2014, 05:28 PM
It is P. thrax.

Pelopidas thrax is extremely variable in the spotting.
I did mentioned that the underparts & side of the body of P. thrax is strongly whitish but that is incorrect observation.
Generally it si paler & with light reflection may appear whitish to brownish.

The best is to try to ID the male.

In both P. agna & thrax an imaginery line thru the cellspots touches the end of the brand or misses it altogether.

Fw spot 2 (largest on the FW) is variable in thrax ,large , irregular, or quadrate . FWs tend to be more rounded.
http://www.biodiversityexplorer.org/butterflies/hesperiidae/images/003275-1_327w.jpg

In P. agna, FW spot 2 is always a very narrow regular bar. FWs sharper & darker.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/PelopidasAgna/PelopidasAgna_KSaji_ac952.jpg
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/PelopidasAgna/02PelopidasAgna_KrushnameghKunte_ak553.jpg

In P. mathias . the line thru the cellspots cuts into the lower third of the brand. FW spot 2 variable.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp/821/Pelopidas-mathias

TL Seow: Cheers.

Tarucus
19-Nov-2014, 07:03 PM
Here is another interesting specimen. with very elongated spot.2. may be mathias ??

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Psyche
19-Nov-2014, 09:09 PM
Post 3.
Male Borbo cinnara.

This has me stumped for some times since it appeares a mixture of features.
The thick drumstick antennae are only seen in Parnara & Borbo/Pseudoborbo.
Obviously this is no Parnara.
(I found out that P. guttata usually have no cellspots or very faint ones (Evan) contrary to images in some websites.)

The forewings are folded under along vein 2 hiding the spot 1b.
The shape of FW spot 2 is distorted, appearing rectangular by the presence of an injury line.
It has a crescentic margin as seen on the left forewing.

Borbo cinnara. FW cellspots 1, 2, or none; with spot 1b ; spots irregular especially spot 2; never with spot 5.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Rice_Swift_(Borbo_cinnara)._At_Yavatmal,_Maharasht ra..jpg

Pseudoborbo bevani. FW with only upper cellspot or none; spots neatly-margined; usuually with spot 5 (the faint one).
Spot 1b absent or faint especially in the male.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7041/7042615117_e664442cce_z.jpg

TL Seow:cheers:

Tarucus
20-Nov-2014, 12:40 AM
:bsmile: these hesperidsssss.....
the more we learn the less we know.... may be this species is not in Pakistan list....
thanks Dr Seow once again.