Request for ID please.

[Benee]

Hi,

is this Jamides celeno aelianus ?

Thanks

Ee

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5524/12429561814_ec6b4fd77f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/98297153@N08/12429561814/)
Jamides celeno aelianus Common Caerulean Venus 080214 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/98297153@N08/12429561814/) by Ben Ee (http://www.flickr.com/people/98297153@N08/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Yes, it is Jamides celeno.

The celeno subgroup is recognised by the unbroken straight FW postdiscal band.
J. malaccanus have the three main HW bands complete. In J. celeno & pura they are incomplete.

J. celeno is relatively very common.
The male upperside is very pale whitish blue with a black border of the FW outer margin (termen).
The upperside HW margin is also darker as can be seen here.

J. pura is a brighter blue to the margin (ie without a black border), a definitive ID.
Recorded in the past, its existence now in Singapore remains unproven.


TL Seow:cheers:

[Benee]

Hi,

Thanks Dr Seow. Best wishes for a Happy, Healthy and Harmonious HORSE Year.

Ee TH

[Psyche]

Here is the one to look out for in Singapore.

Jamides pura pura . This male is from India.
Note the upperside blue reaches right to the margins.
The underside is practically identical with J. celeno.
http://pamba.strandls.com/biodiv/images/Jamides_pura/60_gall.jpg

A male J. celeno aelianus showing a similar bit of the upperside. Cameron Highland, Malaya.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__Dq5_ABpFrs/R8wgTkG57JI/AAAAAAAAB6Q/nSDUVXfq2Z4/s400/butterfly_Cameron%2BHighlands_030308_IMG_0834.jpg


TL Seow:cheers:

[Benee]

Hi Dr Seow,

Thanks for info.

Ee TH

[Benee]

Hi,

grateful for ID, Please.

1. Lampides boeticus ?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7432/12563127284_7327f8292f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/98297153@N08/12563127284/)
Lampides boeticus Pea Blue PRKG (http://www.flickr.com/photos/98297153@N08/12563127284/) by Ben Ee (http://www.flickr.com/people/98297153@N08/), on Flickr

2. Conjoined Swift??

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5535/12563101334_ffcb5fedc0.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/98297153@N08/12563101334/)
Swift Crop (http://www.flickr.com/photos/98297153@N08/12563101334/) by Ben Ee (http://www.flickr.com/people/98297153@N08/), on Flickr

Thanks

Ee TH

[Blue Jay]

Yup, Lampides boeticus.

[Psyche]

2 is Pelopidas mathias.
There is some grey shading on the underside.
The Conjoined Swift is deeper brown , the upperside spots very yellow, the 2 cellspots tend to be elongate.
http://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/media_images/PelopidasConjuncta/01PelopidasConjuncta_AbhaySoman_ag110.jpg

TL Seow: Cheers.

[Benee]

Hi,

thanks both for ID, sorry for late reply as presently in Adelaide with limited internet access.

Ee

[Benee]

Hi,

Rapala pheretima sequeira (Copper Flash)? my 100


https://v4s2.yimg.com/sk/3833/12895321785_a6ee284ce4.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/98297153@N08/12895321785/)
Rapala pheretima sequeira Copper Flash Seletar BG (http://www.flickr.com/photos/98297153@N08/12895321785/) by Ben Ee (http://www.flickr.com/people/98297153@N08/), on Flickr

Thanks

Ee TH

[Psyche]

Rapala pheretima is right.
Note ther is an extra spot/bar in the FW cell (innermost).
This is sometimes missing.

A 2nd good clue is that the HW black spot always lack the orange ring.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Benee]

Thanks Dr Seow

Best regards

Ben Ee

[Benee]

Hi,

Caltoris philippina philippina ??

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3694/13326224325_ef6d79d96f.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/98297153@N08/13326224325/)
Caltoris philippina philippina Seletar (https://www.flickr.com/photos/98297153@N08/13326224325/) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people/98297153@N08/), on Flickr

Thanks for advice.

Ben Ee

[Psyche]

It is a Caltoris malaya female.
There is a faint FW upper cellspot.
Two species here in which there is no FW cellspot.(The faint one here can be discounted.(occassional in C. malaya.)
In C. philippina the FW is sharper & excavated (ie indented/ cut in) on the lower termen(outer margin).

Caltoris malaya is probably not rare, just that it is rather difficult to ID with confidence from the underside alone.
The extra spot in space 1b (lowermost) indicates a female.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Benee]

Hi Dr Seow,

Thanks for quick reply, still cannot get the IDs right yet. Always something new to learn.

Ben Ee

[Benee]

Thanks Dr Seow,

C malaya still not yet in S'pore Checklist.

Ben Ee

[Psyche]

Thanks Dr Seow,

C malaya still not yet in S'pore Checklist.

Ben Ee

Not officially in, but the species had been bred in the past by both Horace & Ben Jin.
eg. (size of spots varies.)
http://www.butterflycircle.com/showthread.php?14473-Skipper-1-of-2-Caltoris

The Pelopidas Group of Skippers are all very similar on the upperside as well, so it is a good idea to get a shot of the underside HW.
However, Borbo cinnara is browner & spots 2 & 3 are rather irregular.
Parnara lack spot 1b in both sexes, & Polytremis & Pelopidas have cellspots.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Benee]

Hi Dr Seow,

thanks for info, will try for all sides next time.

Ben Ee

[Benee]

Hi,

where to locate the scent fold for Common Bluebottle to id male/female ??

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/98297153@N08/13797014794" title="Graphium sarpedon luctatius Common Bluebottle Seletar BG 120414 by Ben Ee, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3748/13797014794_45c8078820.jpg" width="500" height="458" alt="Graphium sarpedon luctatius Common Bluebottle Seletar BG 120414"></a>

Ee

[Psyche]

The scent folds can only be seen on the upperside & that in a set specimen eg.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-b6TKYg69kvY/T4wdwSzorRI/AAAAAAAAB3I/P5jESGY7LkY/s1600/photo+1_1.JPG

From the underside it is quite difficult.
In the male the band is bluer, & the outer margin of the HW's uppermost big window is usually indented or concave.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5kk2ltkkoTE/UV2G1WRjtaI/AAAAAAAAJ2o/1TYwJqMoNeo/s1600/Bluebottles.jpg

In the female the band is more strongly yellow-tinged, & the outer margin of the HW upermost big window is often slightly convex.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c140/tanchung/Butterflies%20-%20Singapore/2009/CENTRAL/DSC_3724_D200_UFRaw15_GMP_sz-642.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/182338_524300150970926_533940917_n.jpg

TL Seow:cheers:

[Benee]

Hi Dr Seow,

Thanks for info

Ben Ee

[Benee]

Hi,

Grateful for ID, please.

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2935/14106941693_ed34fd0d2c_s.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nuzLhD)Cephrenes acalle niasicus Plain Palm Dart Seletar 010514 (https://flic.kr/p/nuzLhD) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people/98297153@N08/), on Flickr

Thanks

Ben Ee

[Psyche]

Yes, it is Cephrenes acalle.

TL Seow:Cheers.

[Benee]

Hi Dr Seow,

Thanks for id.

Ben Ee

[Benee]

Hi,

Grateful for ID, Please.

1. Plain Palm Dart or Common Dartlet, sorry unable to get upper pic
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7386/13932056179_51961ea80f.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ne8qVa)Oriens gola pseudolus Common Dartlet Seletar BG 040514 (https://flic.kr/p/ne8qVa) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people/98297153@N08/), on Flickr

2. Great Eggfly or Jacintha Eggfly
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5321/14138816073_1193a5d254.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nxp8qV)Hypolimnas bolina bolina Great Eggfly female 1 Seletar 13WT 040514 (https://flic.kr/p/nxp8qV) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people/98297153@N08/), on Flickr

Thanks

Ben Ee

[Psyche]

Common Darlet. blurry markings.
Jacintha Eggfly. typical marginal markings.

TL Seow:Cheers.

[Benee]

Hi Dr Seow,

Thanks for IDs

Ben Ee

[Benee]

Hi,

This week at Thailand, Chiang Rai, Mae Suai, Wavee, Huaynamyen, Metta School. Photo some butterflies around the neighbouring villages. Some butterflies are similar to Singapore. Grateful for IDs of these. Thanks

#1
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3851/14400207661_a2528b1e22.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nWuQ3r)Awaiting ID 1 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 100614 (https://flic.kr/p/nWuQ3r) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#2
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5280/14217130007_1edf451358.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nEjvra)Awaiting ID 7a Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 110614 (https://flic.kr/p/nEjvra) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#3
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5239/14403580315_e4790eaa18.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nWN7BD)Awaiting ID 9 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 100614 (https://flic.kr/p/nWN7BD) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#4
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3893/14216958108_4d10b9cf99.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nEiCko)Awaiting ID 29 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 110614 (https://flic.kr/p/nEiCko) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#5
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2907/14216982900_74d9c69a1e.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nEiKGQ)Awaiting ID 14 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 110614 (https://flic.kr/p/nEiKGQ) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#6
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3836/14216960600_e4a9042e57.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nEiD5m)Awaiting ID 31 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 120614 (https://flic.kr/p/nEiD5m) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

Thanks

Ben Ee

[Psyche]

1. Artipe eryx female.
2. Junonia lemonias.
3. Hebomoia glaucippe.
4. Lethe europa.
5. Melanitis leda.
6. Papilio memnon f-alcanor[/I].Correction: This is not f[I]-alcanor.

TL Seow:Cheers

[Benee]

Hi Dr Seow,

Thanks for advice. Will need to get a copy of Butterflies of Thailand.

I got 52 species from my 3 days here. Will post when I get back tomorrow.

Thanks

Ben Ee

[Painted Jezebel]

The Papilio memnon agenor f. alcanor is interesting. According to Pinratana, this form is similar to f. distantianus, but "the white area is restricted and not, or only just, entering into the cell". Ek-Amnuay does not provide a description, but shows a specimen with hardly any white at all, only 4 small oblong spots. The photo here shows the opposite, with considerably more extensive white than f. distantanius.

[atronox]

Finding a female Artipe eryx with intact tails is something worth celebrating:)

[Psyche]

The Papilio memnon agenor f. alcanor is interesting. According to Pinratana, this form is similar to f. distantianus, but "the white area is restricted and not, or only just, entering into the cell". Ek-Amnuay does not provide a description, but shows a specimen with hardly any white at all, only 4 small oblong spots. The photo here shows the opposite, with considerably more extensive white than f. distantanius.

You are right here. JN Eliot states the same.
I merely assumed it is alcanor because the white is extensive below the cell & the pix below labelled f-alcanor..
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-61621657/stock-photo-butterfly-of-swallowtail-family-great-mormon-papilio-memnon-form-alcanor-female-from-the-back.html

The 2nd pair in this HK series should be f-alcanor.
http://www.ccs-hk.org/DM/butterfly/Papilio/Papilio-memnon.html

Not sure what this form with extensive white is called.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Benee]

Hi,

Thanks for IDs, others from Northern Thailand

#1 Heliophorus epicles (Purple Sapphire)
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3864/14230569539_1b6b0b787c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nFvoxe)Awaiting ID 51 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 120614 (https://flic.kr/p/nFvoxe) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#2 Loxura atymnus fuconius (Yamfly)
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5596/14415942332_3f44ec4683.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nXTtpS)Awaiting ID 3 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 100614 (https://flic.kr/p/nXTtpS) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#3 Vindula dejone (lesser Cruiser)
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2902/14230628760_438993663b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nFvG9h)Awaiting ID 44 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 120614 (https://flic.kr/p/nFvG9h) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#4 Catopsilia pyranthe pyranthe f ??(Mottled Emigrant)
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3836/14413872821_b35ceac558.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nXGSdD)Awaiting ID 47 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 120614 (https://flic.kr/p/nXGSdD) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#5 Catopsilia pomona pomona f catilla (Lemon Emigrant)
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2905/14417225725_d2ffdc8a72.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nY13Vk)Awaiting ID 35 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 120614 (https://flic.kr/p/nY13Vk) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#6 Pieris canidia canidia (Cabbage White)
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2917/14230642060_bbda31eff4.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nFvL6A)Awaiting ID 5 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 100614 (https://flic.kr/p/nFvL6A) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#7 Junonia hierta hierta(Yellow Pansy)
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5474/14230597119_c11ee23054.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nFvwJK)Junonia hierta hierta Yellow Pansy female above Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 120614 (https://flic.kr/p/nFvwJK) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

Thanks for kind assistance

Ben Ee

[Psyche]

They are correct(not sure of those ssp.) except.
3. Vindula erota :FW discal line lunulate(crescentic) & closer to the cellend line at the upper end.
4. Catopsilia pomona f-form crocale.
6. Usually placed as Artogeia candida.

TL Seow:Cheers.

[Benee]

Hi Dr Seow,

Thanks for IDs, more below for your advice.

#1 Kaniska canace Blue Admiral
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5276/14395385016_35c2ebbb1a.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nW57ro)Awaiting ID 30 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 110614 (https://flic.kr/p/nW57ro) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#2 Junonia iphita Chocolate Soldier
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3892/14438686813_ddca044b28.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nZU3y6)Junonia iphita horsfieldi Chocolate Soldier above Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 110614 (https://flic.kr/p/nZU3y6) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#3 Neptis hylas papaja Common Sailor
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2925/14231917640_a0888061a5.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nFCihm)Awaiting ID 19 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 110614 (https://flic.kr/p/nFCihm) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#4 Sailor?
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3880/14231919830_ef9afe23f9.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nFCiW7)Awaiting ID 52 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 120614 (https://flic.kr/p/nFCiW7) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#5 Phalanta alcippe alcippoides Small Lepoard
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5520/14232071777_2408d8707c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nFD66T)Awaiting ID 34 above Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 120614 (https://flic.kr/p/nFD66T) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#6 Rapala varuna orseis Indigo Flash
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3841/14415164021_6c5b9bc5a8.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nXPu3H)Awaiting ID 4 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 100614 (https://flic.kr/p/nXPu3H) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

Thanks

Ben Ee

[Painted Jezebel]

I have never been unable to understand the division of Pieris into Pieris and Artogeia. They were all Pieris when I was growing up (a long, long time ago!!!)

[Psyche]

I have never been unable to understand the division of Pieris into Pieris and Artogeia. They were all Pieris when I was growing up (a long, long time ago!!!)

Eliot considered the two as subgenera & perhaps is best left as such.

Artogeia has shorter androconia with a pear-shaped base.
Pieris has long androconia with a similar cordate base.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Psyche]

4. female Neptis hylas.
5. Phalanta phalanta.
6. Rapala manea male.

TL Seow:Cheers.

[Benee]

Hi Dr Seow,

Thanks, last pics for review of IDs.

#1 Ionolyce helicon Pointed Line Blue
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3836/14421511131_366e457247.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nYo1PD)Awaiting ID 2 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 100614 (https://flic.kr/p/nYo1PD) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#2 as above?
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5544/14421513731_b0823f1f4c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nYo2At)Awaiting ID 22 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 110614 (https://flic.kr/p/nYo2At) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#3 Hypolimnas bolina Breat Eggfly
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3860/14423733914_f1504dae2c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nYzpzu)Awaiting ID 8 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 100614 (https://flic.kr/p/nYzpzu) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#4 as above?
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5273/14238269310_e6e011aca8.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nGbRpU)Awaiting ID 17 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 110614 (https://flic.kr/p/nGbRpU) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

#5 skipper?
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3862/14401746716_88cbfd00d0.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nWCHxS)Awaiting ID 50 Wavee, Mae Suai, Chiang Rai Thailand 120614 (https://flic.kr/p/nWCHxS) by Ben Ee (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

Thanks for kind assistance.

Ben Ee

[Benee]

Hi Dr Seow,

could the Papilio Memnon be Papilio nephelus f chaon??

Thanks

Ben Ee

[Psyche]

Post 40.

No. 5. Pithauria stramineipennis.
The spots & faint markings matched but the individual is very worn.
http://www.insect-hunter.com/attachments/pithauria-stramineipennis-light-straw-ace-%E0%B8%9C%E0%B8%B5%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B7%E0%B 9%89%E0%B8%AD%E0%B9%82%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%9B% E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%82%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8 %B5%E0%B8%88%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%87-jpg.1873/

TL Seow:cheers:

[Psyche]

Hi Dr Seow,

could the Papilio Memnon be Papilio nephelus f chaon??

Thanks

Ben Ee

No. P. nephelus chaon is largely black & white.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/pap/10320010.html

TL Seow:Cheers.

[Benee]

Hi Dr Seow,

Thanks for info

Ben Ee