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Painted Jezebel
14-Aug-2012, 08:39 AM
Owing to the number of unidentified hesperids found, I feel it is sensible to open a seperate thread for this familly, otherwise I think the main FH thread would become rather confusing, as happened with the Sulawesi trip.

Painted Jezebel
14-Aug-2012, 01:10 PM
The ones I can identify!

1&2) Idmon obliquans
3&4) Odontoptilum angulatum angulatum (Chestnut Angle?) on a camouflage background!
5) Koruthaialos rubecula

Painted Jezebel
14-Aug-2012, 01:21 PM
Three Halpe species:

1&2) Possible Halpe flava?
3&4) Possible Halpe insignis?
5&6) Possible Halpe pelethronix or H. wantona?

Painted Jezebel
14-Aug-2012, 01:27 PM
1) Pithauria marsena
2) Pithauria stramineipennis stramineipennis
3&4) Pithauria sp?

Psyche
14-Aug-2012, 11:50 PM
Post 3.

1&2 Halpe toxopea.(Big upper cellspot & light yellowish band.)

3 & 4 Halpe zema (Band yellowish & tornal part narrowed & angled prominently.)
H. insignis have no band.

5 . Halpe veluvana( spot 2 & 3 yellow & widely overlapping)
6 is a different butt. with the forewing intact, probably H. pelethronix/wantona.

Post 4.
3 & 4. Upperside that of P. marsena male.

TL Seow:cheers:

Painted Jezebel
15-Aug-2012, 09:34 AM
Post 3.

1&2 Halpe toxopea.(Big upper cellspot & light yellowish band.)

3 & 4 Halpe zema (Band yellowish & tornal part narrowed & angled prominently.)
H. insignis have no band.

5 . Halpe veluvana( spot 2 & 3 yellow & widely overlapping)
6 is a different butt. with the forewing intact, probably H. pelethronix/wantona.

Post 4.
3 & 4. Upperside that of P. marsena male.

TL Seow:cheers:

Thank you.

re Post 3 (Halpe), I thought I would be mainly wrong, as it is 1/2 out of 3 was worse than I expected.:embrass: I think I may have chosen the wrong underside for 6 (too many Halpe in the same place!). Is the one below H. veluvana? On further examination, it looks a bit more ochraceous, and it was taken immediately after the upperside shot.

re Post 4 (Pithauria), pics 3 & 4 are the same specimen, so the oddly coloured underside is still P. marsena then?

Psyche
15-Aug-2012, 04:02 PM
Thank you.

re Post 3 (Halpe), I thought I would be mainly wrong, as it is 1/2 out of 3 was worse than I expected.:embrass: I think I may have chosen the wrong underside for 6 (too many Halpe in the same place!). Is the one below H. veluvana? On further examination, it looks a bit more ochraceous, and it was taken immediately after the upperside shot.

re Post 4 (Pithauria), pics 3 & 4 are the same specimen, so the oddly coloured underside is still P. marsena then?

This new pic is not H. veluvana. It is too brown . It is also H. ?pelethronix.
The post 3 pic 5 have both forewings torn.

re Post 4 pic 3, the spots seem to have been abraded off . I can just made out a series of faint marks.

TL Seow:cheers:

Painted Jezebel
15-Aug-2012, 04:16 PM
Thank you. Very annoyingly, I appear to have missed getting the underside of H. veluvana!:mad2:

Painted Jezebel
16-Aug-2012, 01:35 PM
I thought I had more Hesperids than this, but here are the last two.

1&2) I suspect this is Isma iapis, but the underside black spots worry me.
3,4 &5) Which Potanthus species?

Psyche
16-Aug-2012, 03:31 PM
Post 9

Isma protoclea obscura.
The upperside shows the long tornal cilia of iapis/protoclea.
The underside is dark purplish; that of iapis is ochreous.
A Singaporean example.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11990

Potanthus lydia fraseri.
Larger & darker than omaha; the hindwing underside have the veins barely darkened.

TL Seow:cheers:

Bluebottle
16-Aug-2012, 09:59 PM
Phew... last batch of butts photo. Some may be repeated with Les.

1, 2 Isma protoclea obscura? Isma iapis ?
3 Koruthaialos sindu sindu
4 Potanthus lydia fraseri.
5 Potanthus lydia fraseri.

Painted Jezebel
16-Aug-2012, 10:29 PM
Post 9

Isma protoclea obscura.
The upperside shows the long tornal cilia of iapis/protoclea.
The underside is dark purplish; that of iapis is ochreous.
A Singaporean example.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11990

Potanthus lydia fraseri.
Larger & darker than omaha; the hindwing underside have the veins barely darkened.

TL Seow:cheers:

Thank you, yet again. I kept on thinking that something was not he same but, with these, I can never be sure.

Psyche
17-Aug-2012, 12:22 AM
Post 11

1 & 2 . Lc's shot of Isma iapis is similar but is more ochreous on the underside.
http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/132544830/original.jpg

3. Koruthaialos sindu sindu.
The band is variable, wider in the female.
A 2nd species K. frena is present in the hills; it is larger with a broad orange band much as in Ancistroides gemmifer.
It is difficult to tell how much the band widens here as most of it is hidden

4 & 5 Potanthus lydia fraseri.

TL Seow:cheers:

Glorious Begum
17-Aug-2012, 10:07 PM
3 from me. Do help on IDs. Thanks :cheers:

#1 ?
http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/145434821.jpg

#2 ?
http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/145434820.jpg

#3 ?
http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/145434816.jpg

Psyche
17-Aug-2012, 11:57 PM
Post 14.

1. Ampittia dioscorides.

2. Halpe ? pelethronix/wantona. The better defined forewing spots actually matched Flemng's image of H. wantona.

3. Notocrypta paralysos.

TL Seow:cheers:

Glorious Begum
20-Aug-2012, 10:17 AM
Thank you Seow. :cheers:


Post 14.

1. Ampittia dioscorides.

2. Halpe ? pelethronix/wantona. The better defined forewing spots actually matched Flemng's image of H. wantona.

3. Notocrypta paralysos.

TL Seow:cheers: