Butterflies from Khao Soi Dao, Thailand

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Khao Soi Dao is in the east of Thailand, near the town of Chantaburi and the border with Cambodia.

Info about the place is here: http://www.thaibirding.com/locations/south_east/ksd.htm

I spent 4 days/3 nights there in mid-December and took quite a lot of butterfly pics. I think I nailed some of them, but would like confirmation (or the opposite), and for the rest I hope someone still has patience with me...

Here comes the first instalment:

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and the second batch:

[Painted Jezebel]

Your Jamides sp. is actually a Nacaduba sp. I'm not great at IDying these species.
The Pithecops is, I'm sure, Neopithecops zalmora, but the angle is not perfect.

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Thx Leslie

I more or less did expect the first blue to be wrong, hope some can nail it (if that's possible at all...).

Glad for your other correction. I see now at "A Check List of Butterflies in Indo-China", that he has seen material of Neopithecops zalmora zalmora from Khao Soi Dao, but not Pithecops corvus any where near :-)

I have many more pictures/species from this place, so it will keep coming :bsmile:

[Psyche]

This is interesting. 2 males 6-line Blies.
They are definitely not beroe or kurava.
Top one is N. berenice. The bottom one I am tempted to think it is N. calauria, with its series of larger & darker spots, but I noticed that calauria is not recorded that far east. Tentatively it is another berenice.

Didnt realised PC & NZ are that similar. Should be PC which have 2 costal spots which at this angle are right on the margin. The big black spot is also larger.( correctly it is NZ.)

The Drupadia is D. niasica. The underside is similar to D. theda but the male (sipping poo here) have a broad orange band.
This is also not seemed to be recorded to the east, but I don't think it is a female D. theda.

TL Seow:cheers:
PS. Taking a look at Sunny's Quacker, it has 2 costal spots right at the edge so NZ is the correct ID.

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Thx a lot Seow, I never imagined that the two blues on the bird s... could be two species, but when I look at them now, there ARE some small differences, so maybe they are indeed. For now I have to file them as Nacaduba berenice + Nacaduba sp. :-)

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Second last is that Cirrochroa or Vindula?

When I photographed the last one, I was certain it was a butterfly. It was in the day and it behaved quite like a butterfly, but when I see the pics the antenna seems not to be club shaped, some butterfly like moth?

[Archduke]

Second last is that Cirrochroa or Vindula?

When I photographed the last one, I was certain it was a butterfly. It was in the day and it behaved quite like a butterfly, but when I see the pics the antenna seems not to be club shaped, some butterfly like moth?

Thats a Moth. Once apon a time we all went to great lengths to photograph that skitish fella too.

Should be a Callidulidae something.

See these posts that mentioned:

It is call the "The Barbarian" or Callidula sumatrensis The Callies or Tetragonus catamitus.

http://www.butterflycircle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7299&highlight=Callidulidae

http://www.butterflycircle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1529&highlight=Callidulidae

[Psyche]

The Drupadia is a D. theda female after all. The Thai subspecies have a broad orange band extending down into space 1b.
http://www.malaeng.com/blog/wp-content/pictures/2008/06/drupadia-theda-f22.jpg

The Potanthus can't be IDed without at least a good look of the forewing.

Vindula erota . Note main dark line runs very close to the forewing cell-end.

Last is a moth.

TL Seow:cheers:

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I guess the uppersides may be unidentifiable?

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Especially for:

confirming, that it is indeed a moth and even supplying a name. I my own country, I use a lot more time on moths than butterflies (toooo few of those here!), so I like moths too, I would have chased even if I had known, it was not a butterfly :-)


Correcting the Drupadia theda and even to a subspecies named after the greatest entomologist my country ever spawned :-)

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Could it be Callidula sakuni rather than C. sumatrensis? The posterior spot on the underside of the forewing seem narrow and connected with the anterior one to me, but not sure, how to judge exactly :-)

I will have to look at the original in higher resolution :-)

[Psyche]

The correct name is Callidula sakuni..
C. sumatrensis is a junior synonym.
Some variation of the spots is expected.

Post 10
First 3 are all Anthene emolus.
Last is Hypolycaena erylus.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Psyche]

Correcting the Drupadia theda and even to a subspecies named after the greatest entomologist my country ever spawned :-)
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I had always thought Fabricius was a latinised name much like Linnaeus (Carl von Linne) & Confucius (Kung-Fu-Tze).
No wonder it is latinised to Fabricii in taxonomy.

TL Seow:cheers:

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The correct name is Callidula sakuni..
C. sumatrensis is a junior synonym.
Some variation of the spots is expected.

Post 10
First 3 are all Anthene emolus.
Last is Hypolycaena erylus.

TL Seow:cheers:

In the Moths of Borneo, they are different species?

[Psyche]

In the Moths of Borneo, they are different species?

It is in the Moths of Borneo that the list of synonyms are listed below the valid name Callidula sakuni Horsfield 1828.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-8/callidulidae/callidulidae_2_2.php

TL Seow:cheers:

[Psyche]

Oops ! You are right. they are two separate species.:embrass:

TL Seow:cheers:
PS. From the description this should be C. sakuni, but unfortunately there are no images on the net that will fit the description of sumatrensis for comparison.

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Oops ! You are right. they are two separate species.:embrass:

TL Seow:cheers:
PS. From the description this should be C. sakuni, but unfortunately there are no images on the net that will fit the description of sumatrensis for comparison.

It is "Callidula sumatrensis Pagenstecher sensu Kobes, 1990: 108" that is a synonym of C. sakuni, not the correct understanding of Cs: Callidula sumatrensis Pagenstecher, 1887: 232.

On the plate both species are there http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-8/callidulidae/gallery.php, and under Callidula sumatrensis distinguishing characters are mentioned:


Diagnosis. This and the next two species are very similar in facies and are distinguished most readily by features of the male. In sumatrensis the costal zone of the hindwing is pale ochreous, with a black edge grading away into the dark brown behind it. Females have the costa weakly paler and lack the black edge. The forewing orange bar tends to be narrower, with stronger orange more definitely restricted to the interior edge. On the underside the posterior component of the pair of silvery discal marks on the forewing is relatively large, triangular, and well separated from the anterior one, whereas in C. sakuni Horsfield it is narrower and almost colinear with the anterior one. Identity can be confined from genitalic features mentioned in the following note. :cheers:

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Could #2 & #3 (and possibly #1?) be Anthene emolus?

For the rest I am still clueless... :-(

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Two pics, this time with suggestions :-)

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I did not do much else for three days than chasing butterflies so...

[Psyche]

Could #2 & #3 (and possibly #1?) be Anthene emolus?

For the rest I am still clueless... :-(

I didn't see the extra pics in post 10.

The fisrt four pics are Anthene emolus.
Fifth is Hypolycaena erylus.
6th is Rapala manea schistacea.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/83900020.html

The last is a difficult one but appeared to be Prosotas pia.
Both P pia & nora are very similar there are a lot of confusing images on the net. The main ID point is that the peripheral spots in pia are reduced & tends to fade out.

Exqmples of P. nora. Note tornal black line is prominent.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0EK80AsaR7g/TUNhaBaXzkI/AAAAAAAAD7o/JRTxhE0Po2U/s400/DSC0419-Common%2BLine%2BBlue.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/4444942731_39a0b5be79.jpg

Example of pia. Note the tornal black line is poor.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/ProsotasPiaMarginataMUpUnAC1.jpg/596px-ProsotasPiaMarginataMUpUnAC1.jpg

TL Seow:cheers:

[Psyche]

Two pics, this time with suggestions :-)

They are correct.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Psyche]

I did not do much else for three days than chasing butterflies so...

All are correct except the last. P. conjunctus have two prominent spots in the forewing cell.

This has no cell spots and is dull brown. It is very likely to be the Blank Swift ( Caltoris kumara ).

TL Seow:cheers:

[Psyche]

The Prosotas in Post 10 is Prosotas nora ardates.
Here are examples of many variants.
http://www.butterfliesofindia.com/31-polyommatinae/prosotas-nora

The Prosotas pia marginata in your area is different.
http://www.malaeng.com/blog/wp-content/pictures/2007/08/l-prosotas-pia.jpg

TL Seow:cheers:

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Thx a lot again Seow, I have corrected and archived all now, but still lots more from KSD, hope you are not tired of me yet, still only ID'ed 20% of the pics from my 5 weeks...

[Psyche]

1 is Melanitis phedima.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3235/2850160526_faecab6aff.jpg

2 is Mycalesis perseus dry season form. Note spots form an arc on both wings.

3 is Tanaecia jahnu.

4 is Celastrina lavendularis.

TL Seow:cheers:

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Thx again, again and again ;-)

Interesting with the dry season form of Mycalesis perseus , I would for sure never have guessed the ID from the pics on the photo check list

Here are a few more:hmmm:


Are all the grass yellows the same?

[Psyche]

Thx again, again and again ;-)

Interesting with the dry season form of Mycalesis perseus , I would for sure never have guessed the ID from the pics on the photo check list

Here are a few more:hmmm:


Are all the grass yellows the same?

The Jamides is J. celeno. Note the misalignment of the white striae in the middle.

The Grass Yellows appeared to be all E. simulatrix.

TL Seow:cheers:

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The Jamides is J. celeno. Note the misalignment of the white striae in the middle.

The Grass Yellows appeared to be all E. simulatrix.

TL Seow:cheers:

Thx Seow, I thought it was seleno, but my success in identifying Jamides spp. has until now been very poor, so I decided to play safe :-D. Thx for pointing out, what to notice.

Sorry for sending pic, that was already sent earlier, it is deleted now :-)

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The blues are same individual, I am pretty sure. Both underside and upperside should help, but...

[Psyche]

The blue should be a local race of Chilades pandava with less orange on the black spot.
Here are very good matches.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/-LqbquK_3ZZA/S8LNSid8OMI/AAAAAAAADCE/HZxwjnSb2RQ/Blue%252520Unid.JPG
http://www.malaeng.com/blog/tmp/2010/07/chilades-pan1m-450.jpg

The Bob is correct. In I. stellifer the underside forewing has 3 white spots.

TL Seow:cheers:

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Thx again Seow, I did not know, there was a blue mainly dependant on cycads, quite interesting :-)

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Another batch...

dontoptilum angulatum, and un-ID'ed skipper and some kind of windmill...

[Psyche]

1 is correct.
The next 2 are Halpe species & are normally quite difficult even with the help of the hindwing underside.

2 looks like it is correctly Halpe arcuata.No cell spot; yellow hyaline spots, degree of overlap of the 2 big spots.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/monsoon_jyoti_gogoi/5089591326/

3 is largely a quess. Halpe kusala. one cell spot; whitish hyaline spots; degree of overlap.
Note example below have no cell spot.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/monsoon_jyoti_gogoi/4247984368/

4. Byasa adamsoni.

TL Seow:cheers:

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Thx again (how many times did I say that?) :embrass:

I am re4ally glad to get names on all these pics, and very nice that actually I got quite a few species :cheers:

Here are some more...


I guess the first blues are Acytolepis puspa? But maybe more than one species, pattern is not the same on all three specimens and one has small, fine tails? Also one (the palest of those without tails) seems similar to Udara dilecta ....

The small blue could be Zizina otis?

Is the brown satyrine another dry season form of something? Like the first was Mycalesis perseus? I does not like identyical, but similar, so I ask if is the corresponding dry season form of one of the somewhat similar species, maybe another Mycalesis? I do not even know if the other species have this seasonal dimorphism, just guessing :bsmile:

[Psyche]

An oopsie to correct here.
The blue in post 26 is not Celastrina lavendularis which is brownish on the underside & lack the black dot at the hindwing base (in space 7).
It should be correctly Oreolyce archena.
http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:OArchenaMaleUpUnAC1.jpg
TL Seow:cheers:

[Psyche]

1 is correctly Accytolepis puspa.

2 keyed out as Monodontides musina. Note no black dot at hingwing base (in space 7).
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MonodontidesMusinaMusinaFUpUnAC1.jpg

3. Left is M. musina.
Right is Megisba malaya. Note tails & dark spots on forewing leading edge (costa).

4. is most likely Telicota bambusae. Note no orange patch base of space 3 forewing; no dark shadings around forewing spots.
Differ from T. linna by smaller size, but T linna is a rarity while T. bambusae is common in your area.

7 is correct. Zizinz otis. No forewing cellspot; hindwing spot 6 & 7 one above the other.

8. should be Mycalesis intermedia dry season form.
Forewing with two spots. Hindwing band incurved or angled in at the top. This feature is fairly constant & probably present in 90 % of cases.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Painted Jezebel]

An oopsie to correct here.
The blue in post 26 is not Celastrina lavendularis which is brownish on the underside & lack the black dot at the hindwing base (in space 7).
It should be correctly Oreolyce archena.
http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:OArchenaMaleUpUnAC1.jpg
TL Seow:cheers:

Interesting! O. archena has not been recorded from Thailand, as far as I can see. To find it in Chantaburi province would be a great suprise. If it was to be found, it would be more likely be in the North West or deep south of the peninsular, depending on the ssp.

I also need to question the id of M. musina. Again the wrong area. It looks, to me, more like Udara placidula howarthi. Though not recorded from Chantaburi, it is found in N. Thailand, Laos and S. Vietnam, so it would not be unreasonable to find it there.

[Psyche]

Interesting! O. archena has not been recorded from Thailand, as far as I can see. To find it in Chantaburi province would be a great suprise. If it was to be found, it would be more likely be in the North West or deep south of the peninsular, depending on the ssp.

I also need to question the id of M. musina. Again the wrong area. It looks, to me, more like Udara placidula howarthi. Though not recorded from Chantaburi, it is found in N. Thailand, Laos and S. Vietnam, so it would not be unreasonable to find it there.

You are right on both counts.
I am confusing the sub-basal spot at the dorsum as the one in space 1b which led to the errors.

In post 26, the butt has a basal spot in space 7; No sub-basal spot in space 1b; no forewing postdiscal spot in space 9.
Yet the only way it can keyed out is Acytolepis.
(It seems the postdiscal forewing spot may be absent and the hindwing sub-basal spot in space 1b is optional in Acytolepis)
Note : Only Acytolepis & Oreolyce have the basal black spot in space 7.
The closest match is A. puspa gisca.
http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AcytolepisPuspaGiscaMFAC2.jpg
The next is A. lilacea.
http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AcytolepisLilaceaIndochinensisMUpUnAC1.jpg

It would be strange if two subspecies lambi & gisca occur together, but its possible they are in a zone of overlap.

As for post 36 two species are very similar Udara cyma & placidula.
It does look closer to cyma because of the rounder marginal spots but again rarity & locality are against it, so it is very likely you are correct in it being U. placidula.

TL Seow:cheers:

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Interesting that the same small bird pooh attracted 3 species of blues within a few minutes, I should have stayed with it all day :bsmile:

[Silverstreak]

Could this be the Acytolepis puspa gisca?

http://www.butterflycircle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17926&stc=1&d=1327609474

[Psyche]

You brought up an interesting point, Sunny.
I supposed your shot is from HK.
I had thought subspecies gisca have small spots on the hindwing, but the spots can also be fairly close to that of lambi..
http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AcytolepisPuspaGiscaMFAC2.jpg
From Cambodia with larger spots.
http://www.rainbowlodgecambodia.com/butterflies/pics/Acytolepis%20puspa%20gisca%20(Common%20Hedge%20Blu e)%204.JPG

The main difference is the whitish patches on the upperside of gisca.

Both the Acytolepis in post 26 & 36 should be A. puspa gisca.

TL Seow:cheers:

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Taking a break from the small, tricky blues :-)

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at least some of them :-)

[Psyche]

Post 44

1 & 2 Melanitis leda. Forewing shape typical of male; underside with ringed eyespots.
3 is Cirrochroa tyche. Wing apex marginal area not darkened.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Painted Jezebel]

Regarding 1 & 2, I had wondered, the hindwing on the second photo looked wrong, however this could be due to possible predation, as the tail looked too long. I knew 1 was M. leda. In the end, I must agree with Seow on both.

With regards to No. 3, I had wondered about C. surya malayensis. To be sure, I would need to see the underside forewing. C tyche mithila is common, so it is likely, but not absolutely sure.

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Number two does have some wing damage that may be the result of a predation attempt :)

Regarding the Cirrochroa I actually have a bad pic of the underside:

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3-4 more...

[Psyche]

The underside confirmed C. tyche.

Next Post.

1. Byasa adamsoni
2. Papilio polytes female.
3 looks correct.
4. Phaedyma columella martabana.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Painted Jezebel]

Thanks for the underside. As Seow says, this confirms C. tyche mithila.

Your third photo can not be Elymnias panthera, as it is only found on the deep south of the peninsular in Thailand, near the Malay border, further up the peninsular it is replaced by E. obnubila, but this has a very small range, and is not found north of Ranong.

It is an Elymnias hypemnestra, and is likely to be E. h. meridionalis, which can be found in Cambodia as well as Eastern Thailand. In fact Yutaka quotes Khao Soi Dao in his specimens examined for this ssp.

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Thx a lot to both of you once more, I really hope printer/publisher of the 2. ed. of "Butterflies of Thailand" is soon dry enough to turnout some books.

I will surely make mistakes even with the book, but at least I should be able to catch and double check obvious cases of "out of known range" :mad2:

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Two Troides (probably same), Catopsilia and Cethosia

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the other Troides picture

[Psyche]

Both are Troides aeacus. Note hindwing black dusting.
Catopsilia pomona. Note red-rimmed spot.
Bassarona(or Euthalia ) teuta female.
Cethosia cyane. Forewing cell less red & hindwing postdiscal band wider than C. methypsea.

TL Seow:cheers:

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The black dusting seen on some online pics ID'ed as aecuswas actually, what led me to this species, very glad to hear, that it is indeed useful as a mark.

I guess the Bassarona(or Euthalia) teuta must be ssp. gupta then? Both from distribution and shape of white spots on forewing?

[Painted Jezebel]

I guess the Bassarona(or Euthalia) teuta must be ssp. gupta then? Both from distribution and shape of white spots on forewing?

Absolutely correct.

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Yihaaah:cheers:

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A horrible pic of a small, pale Eurema, I saw similars a few times, very small and pale.

Are both dragontails the same species?

what Nawab is it?

[Psyche]

1. Eurema hecabe hecabe. 2 cell spots, one dash, one dot.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/pie/20560001.html
2. Both are Lamproptera meges virescens. In L. curius uppermost window at forewing apex much smaller than next.
3. Polyura athamas athamas.
4. Vindula erota erota. Dark line touching cellend on forewing.
5. I guess this is Appias lyncida eleonora. Wing shape is distorted.

TL Seow:cheers:

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Thx for help and corrections again Seow, I am glad you have not despaired of me yet :bsmile:

[Psyche]

Thx for help and corrections again Seow, I am glad you have not despaired of me yet :bsmile:

No chance of that yet.

TL Seow:cheers:

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I have lots of pictures yet, so... :grin2:

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Small enough window to be Lamproptera curius?

[Psyche]

Yes. It is.

TL Seow:cheers:
PS. The top window can be entirely missing.
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/insects/butterflies/papilionidae/lampropteracuriuscurius/

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Thx Seow, so have both from there. I will go back to older pics (from Chiang Dao two years ago), to check this mar as well. Very usefull :)

[Painted Jezebel]

PS. The top window can be entirely missing.
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/insects/butterflies/papilionidae/lampropteracuriuscurius/

Although my own photo, I had not noiced that. Thanks. I rechecked all my photos of this species from Samui, and the top window is always very small indeed, just a dot, if it is present at all.

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Some of the species are in more than one place, but hope you can see which labels are meant for where...

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Here are 3

[Painted Jezebel]

Your 2 Tanaecia iapis are wrong.

The first, is, I think, a female Euthalia aconthea garuda.
The second is a male Euthalia phemius phemius.

[Psyche]

Your 2 Tanaecia iapis are wrong.

The first, is, I think, a female Euthalia aconthea garuda.
The second is a male Euthalia phemius phemius.

Fully agreed. In E. aconthea, the series of white spots is strongly angled.

TL Seow:cheers:

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Thx again to both of you :cheers:

What about the pierids? Any errors there? And what about the question mark?

[Psyche]

Thx again to both of you :cheers:

What about the pierids? Any errors there? And what about the question mark?

The A. lyncida is definitely right, and as for the other two, indra & albina they look right to me.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Psyche]

According to the Yutaka site the Appias indra ssp. is thronion although ssp. indra seems to overlap.

Two similar Appias in your area are A. albina darada & A. paulina adamsoni.
The male of A.albina darada have apointed forewing and no black spot.
The male of A. paulina adamsoni have a blunt forewing & a black spot although the black spot may be hidden at rest.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/pie/20250010.html
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/pie/20260010.html

The males here all have pointed forewings & some are raised hgh enough to show there is no black spot.
So it is A. albina darada.

An unknown butterfly is under the word thestylis.

TL Seow:cheers:

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Thx a lot Seow, I will look at the original pic, and see if the unknown can be known ;-)

[Painted Jezebel]

I am just grateful that all the Appias albina specimens are males. Females create a whole host of problems regarding correct identification!

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he he - females create a whole lot of problems fortunately they tend to solve even more :grin2:

Anyway, if there had been a single female here, probably we could assumed it likely to be of the same species as the males...

[Psyche]

I knew I have forgotten something as I had gone through these Appias before.
There is A. pandione lagela which has a very similar underside to A. indra..

However. the apical brownish area above the black band in A. indra is larger.
So the ID is correct.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/pie/20270020.html
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/pie/20280010.html

TL Seow:cheers:

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I think the "unknown" is just another Appias indra, but not sure...

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Several pics of Anthene emolusbefore, I think it must be that once more?

And then some closer views of the pierids, one thing that I wonder about is the two Appias albina, they are not same size and not quite same colour/pattern. Is it variation or two species or two sexes?

It can not be the A. paulina adamsoni that Seow mentioned, I think, as the forewing shape is not different...

[Psyche]

The unknown is A. indra, just that the shadow across its wing had made it appeared much darker.

The Anthene is A. lycaenina. A. emolus have the black spot at its inner margin ( near the hind leg ).

The Appias is A. albina although the disparity in size here is very great.
The closest in shape & size is Saletara panda, but I have never seen one this pale.
Anyway in Saletara the last two veins at the apex (vein 7 & 9 ) forms a small triangle, ie. the topmost vein 9 which runs from vein 7 is very short.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/pie/20320010.html

TL Seow:cheers:

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Thx again, at least one more blue for the collection :)

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The first one I guess to be the upperside of one you already ID'ed from below?

Then follow all the <i>Euploea</i> spp. that I could get at KSD (not that many), it should help, that I got both upper side and under side of the same individuals, but I am still confused...

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A pierid and found one more Euploea

[Psyche]

1. H. erylus is correct. Note dark brand.

2, & 3 . E. sylvester . Easily recognised by the bright blue & double brands.

4, 5 & 6. E. mulciber. Only male with forewng blue & multiple spots.

7. should be E. modesta. Very similar to E. midamus,but rounder spots ; shorter forewing.

8. E. sylvester (on rock) now identifiable by comparison. Forewing few spots; hindwing spots small.

Post 84.
1. Appias lyncida.

2. E. mulciber. Wingshape; hindwing single row of submarginal white dots.

TL Seow:cheers:

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Thx a lot Seow, my internet connection at home is out of order, which is why I have been slow at acknowledging your answer and even slower at continuing the thread. Anyway it should be ok to night or tomorrow, so... I wil be back :grin2:

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Could the Eurema be E. simulatrix?

Are the pale yellow ones in the group pictureGandaca harina?

What is no. 3?

[Painted Jezebel]

No 3 is Tirumala septentrionis septentrionis (Dark Blue Tiger).

The yellows in No 2 are indeed Gandaca harina burmana (Tree Yellow). You also have 2 species of Pierrots and what appears like 3 or 4 small brown Lycaenids, but I can not see enough details to be sure.

The Eurema sp. in No 1 is either E. simulatrix inouei or E. blanda silhetana. The difference is that the former has 2 forewing cell spots, the latter has 3. I THINK I can see a third spot at the cell base but am not sure.

[Psyche]

! is E. simulatrix.
Only simulatris & blanda have a spot at the base of space 7 on the hindwing ( the reversed comma here ).
In E. simulatrix this spot is sharp and well-defined.

Group pic.
Appias albina, G. harina, H. glaucippe. A. lyncida (one very worn in the centre). probably Anthene emolus (two on left, two on right) Caleta roxus, Castalius rosimon and a single Anthene lycaenina.

TL Seow:cheers:
PS. A check of E. blanda up north shows the basal spot can be well-defined too. However, the 3 forewing cell spots are closer together, so that the 2 in the pic should be noticeably closer.
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5011/5496003037_4c539cbc44_z.jpg

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Thx again, I did think that the group picture was all species that I had in other pics except the Gandaca harina, here comes the last of the Khao Soi Dao pics, but I will open another thread for Khaeng Krachan, if you two are not tired of my questions.

Here it is actually mostly the Pantoporia? (and if possible the two blues on the leaf) I want your opinion on, the other group shots do not contain new species I think...

[Painted Jezebel]

I'll work backwards.

5) I can not say what the lower one is, but the forewing of the higher specimen has a dark discal area on the forewing which makes it appear to be a male Common Tit (Hypolycaena erylus himavantus), though I would be happy to be corrected on this. There are some aspects which make me doubt this.

4) This the Common Jester (Symbrenthia lilaea lilaea)

1,2&3) The usual suspects, though there does appear to be a Nacaduba species, one of the six-line group, in front of the Fluffy Tit (Zeltus amasa amasa) in the first photo.

[Psyche]

Pic 1 & 2
The Nacaduba should be N. berenice (common & variable). No special feature to indicate otherwise.

Pic 3.
Cyrestis thyodamas. Less black at apex & bands compared to nivea.
Prosotas dubiosa. Centre two; note irregular forewing postdiscal band.
Ionolyce helicon on the right. Broken forewing postdiscal band; more pointed wing & larger black spot than P. dubiosa.

Pic 5
Agreed. Male Hypolycaena erylus; typical brand on the forewing.
Lower one brownish . Upperside hindwing spot & black margin match the female.
Most likely a mating pair.

TL Seow:cheers:

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Thx a lot both of you, I did suspect the upper blue on the leaf to be that species, but had no inkling that the lower one might be the female of the same :-).


The Ionolyce helicon was a nice, unexpected bonus.

I think that was all from KSD. Now for Kaeng Krachan :cheers: