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Glorious Begum
29-Jun-2011, 09:18 PM
Coming soon ...... :)

Bluebottle
29-Jun-2011, 10:42 PM
"Akan Datang" (coming soon) must also come with trailer lah.... ;P

Silverstreak
29-Jun-2011, 11:57 PM
Welcome back from the Lost world of Maliau Basin !:cheers:

orionmystery
30-Jun-2011, 12:39 PM
Fuiyoh...i can't wait! Post one teaser first mah :D

bluefin
30-Jun-2011, 03:08 PM
Let's start with two first :) ........



Sinthusa privata

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5273/5886487851_ca07b17b89_b.jpg


Moduza procris (The Commander)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6039/5886489485_c06d2c6707_b.jpg

bluefin
30-Jun-2011, 04:55 PM
Here's 2 pics of the Silverlys.:cheers:



Ancema blanka (Silver Royal )

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5191/5887228742_b9d908c15b_b.jpg



http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5187/5886662151_a289a81db9_b.jpg

Archduke
30-Jun-2011, 04:59 PM
beautiful silver royal!

moloch
30-Jun-2011, 06:02 PM
I always like habitat shots so here are a few of the Maliau Basin and the areas where we hunted butterflies.

Maliau Basin from a distance. The high northern rim is visible in the background. We stayed just below the souther rim in the center of the photo.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/habitat1.jpg


The early mornings were often misty like this.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/habitat3.jpg


This tree near the dining room was a good one for hornbills in the morning. A Ficus was fruiting nearby and Black and Rhino Hornbills flew back and forth to feed on these. We also saw Helmeted Hornbills visit the tree once, Wreathed Hornbill fly by and heard/saw Bushy-crested Hornbills within the forest.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/habitat12.jpg


Maliau River
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/habitat2.jpg


This spot was a good one for butterflies especially when Nelson and Lc put out their special bait. A number of exciting species turned up here.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/habitat11.jpg


Selectively logged forest near the observation tower. The tower was only 3 km from camp. I birded here one evening and the following morning. Birds recorded included several species of Hornbills, Broadbills, Trogons, Garnet Pitta, many Barbets and others.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/habitat7.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/habitat8.jpg



The facilities were great. The deck near the dining hall produced a number of interesting inverts at night. Lights were on until eleven and these brought in all sorts of things, especially on the first couple of nights when it rained.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/habitat10.jpg

Elbowed Pierrot
30-Jun-2011, 06:31 PM
the accommodation looks great.. hope you guys had a blast.
less talk, more pic

Commander
30-Jun-2011, 06:45 PM
Such places in Malaysia would definitely keep the butt shooters very busy!

As for the species, please drop the subspecies name, cos the East Malaysian subspecies are somewhat different from West Malaysia. So e.g. for Commander, just leave it at Moduza procris. It may be called something else other than ssp milonia over there. :)

Bluebottle
30-Jun-2011, 09:41 PM
Beautiful environmental shots, David. :cheers:

Nelson, finally you got your Silver Royal, not from Singapore, but from Malaysia :bsmile: . Nice catch anyway. :cheers:

Now, enough of appetizer, main course please everyone :)

moloch
30-Jun-2011, 09:57 PM
Here are two of the widespread and common species. We saw these often.

Tailed Jay (Graphium agamemnon)
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/TailedJay1.jpg


Blue Jay (Graphium evemon)
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/graphiuum3.jpg

Glorious Begum
30-Jun-2011, 10:24 PM
You guys are fast. :bsmile:

A morning shot taken from the dining deck.

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136018566/original.jpg


At evening, we were watching hornbills.

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136018568/original.jpg

Glorious Begum
30-Jun-2011, 10:45 PM
The Jay brothers. :cheers:

Graphium evemon (Blue Jay), Graphium bathycles (Veined Jay),Graphium doson (Common Jay)

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136018683/original.jpg


Cheritra freja (Common Imperial)

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136018576/original.jpg

Lexias pardalis (Archduke)

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136018578/original.jpg

atronox
01-Jul-2011, 12:29 AM
1st lycaenid looks like a Sinthusa privata.

WillFolsom
01-Jul-2011, 07:19 AM
Not only do you guys capture great shots, but you can get them lined up too! Looks like a fun way to spend the evening! William

moloch
01-Jul-2011, 10:40 AM
The Jay brothers. :cheers:

Graphium evemon (Blue Jay), Graphium bathycles (Veined Jay),Graphium doson (Common Jay)


Amazing shot, LC. It was nice of the three to line up like this so that the difference can be studied.

Psyche
01-Jul-2011, 11:22 AM
The Silver Royal is stunning.



1st lycaenid looks like a Sinthusa privata.

Well done, Aaron.

TL Seow:cheers:

Common Mime
01-Jul-2011, 11:40 AM
Nice! Looking forward to seeing more. :)

moloch
01-Jul-2011, 01:42 PM
Tawny Rajahs (Charaxes bernardus) were common along the Maliau River. They were the most conspicuous when it was sunny and when bait had been added to the sandy areas near the water.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/TawnyRajah3.jpg


Clippers (Parthenos sylvia) were also a frequent sight. They never stopped at the bait but this one did settle low on a retaining wall at the headquarters.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/clipper1.jpg


... not butterflies but such lovely animals. Tiger Leeches were so affectionate and just loved us. Les suggested that this would make a nice Valentine's Card. Strange, but my wife was not impressed by these.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/tigerleech3.jpg

Commander
01-Jul-2011, 02:04 PM
... not butterflies but such lovely animals. Tiger Leeches were so affectionate and just loved us. Les suggested that this would make a nice Valentine's Card. Strange, but my wife was not impressed by these.

:bsmile: I do remember that leeches were Les' best friends when we were at Endau-Rompin.

Glorious Begum
01-Jul-2011, 11:27 PM
Nelson, great upperside shot of Silver
David, the shot of Rajah is beautiful

posting a few difficult to ID shots here for our expert Seow. Thanks in advance. :cheers:

#1
16545
#2
16548
#3
16546
#4
16549
#5
16547
#6
16544

Silverstreak
02-Jul-2011, 01:34 AM
Well Done Guys !

Nelson, Beautiful shot of the Ancema blanka (Silver Royal ).

Only Khew and Federick were lucky enough to have it on their sensors at the Southern Ridges way back on 24th September 2005 which they initially mistaken it as a Common Tit .:)

I sighted it on two other occasions during the period, but missed both chances due to my inexperience ....was a newbie two weeks into shooting butterfly and fumbling around with son's Canon D30:bsmile: (http://www.butterflycircle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2692&highlight=Ancema+blanka+blanka&page=3)

Looking forward to more from your trip.

:cheers:

Psyche
02-Jul-2011, 01:54 AM
This is what I think they are, Lc.

1 Allotinus sstrigatus male. (corrected)
Note submarginal spots with white edges.Forewing postdiscal spots arched inwards at costa; Hindwing postdiscal spots in space 5, 6, 7 in line.( spot 6 is midway between 5 & 7.)

2 Caltoris bromus probably.
Note all 3 legs right side, with midtibia smooth; Edge of upper cell spot(large) just seen, so 2 spotted Caltoris. Underside colour suggest bromus.

3 Allotinus sarrastes female.
Prominent white-edged submarginal spots; note hindwing postdiscal spot in space 6 nearer to 5 than to 7.

4 & 5 Arhopala major
Hindwing postdiscal spots in spaces 5,6,& 7 in line ; inner 2 spots in space 7 small.

6 Potanthus ganda male.
Probably almost impossible to tell ganda & mingo apart from the upperside but the costal-cellular orange in ganda more solid above & below in the male; also ganda is much more common.

TL Seow:cheers:

Painted Jezebel
02-Jul-2011, 09:19 AM
1st lycaenid looks like a Sinthusa privata.

Brilliant, Aaron! This had been troubling me all trip. A +1 for my list, to take the place of the Malayan Red Harlequin, which I have had to delete from the provisional list (reasons to follow when I have processed the photos!).

Also, thanks Seow for the IDs, the Allotinus was just down as Allotinus sp.

Painted Jezebel
02-Jul-2011, 12:09 PM
Processed all I am going to do for today!

The Allotinus species I have appears different from that already posted, so this may still be another +1 for the list. Also, here are the Red Harlequin photos. The upperside had been causing me problems, and I now believe them to show a female Banded Red Harlequin (Paralaxita orphna orphna). Advices would be welcome.

orionmystery
02-Jul-2011, 01:20 PM
Wonderful shots everyone :). Great trip! Let's go to Imbak next time:D

I got a crappy snapshot of this by sg maliau, high up on a tree


Troides amphrysus? male.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5307/5893047680_44ae0fe9fb_z.jpg

@David, the two lovely leeches were mating?:D

Glorious Begum
02-Jul-2011, 02:56 PM
Love to shoot this flying Tree Nymp


Idea stolli (Common Tree Nymphh

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136052335/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136052337/original.jpg

Glorious Begum
02-Jul-2011, 03:07 PM
Need confirmation on the below IDs. Thanks

Neptis sankara ?

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136052348/original.jpg

Acytolepis puspa ?

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136052355/original.jpg

Ancistroides nigrita (Chocolate Demon) ?

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136052358/original.jpg

Euthalia merta ?

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136052374/original.jpg

Unknown Arhopala, left top corner is the opened wings shot.

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136052372/original.jpg


Athyma reta ?

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136052362/original.jpg

Unknown Faunis ?

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136052346/original.jpg

Unknown ?

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136052368/original.jpg

Great Mormon
02-Jul-2011, 03:07 PM
Splendid series guys. I particularly like the 3 Jays puddling together. The juxtaposed positions of the 3 Jays help highlight the differences between the species.

The other photos are equally stunning as well. Thanks for sharing guys! Maliau Basin will be on my must visit places after I graduate!

Psyche
02-Jul-2011, 03:16 PM
Processed all I am going to do for today!

The Allotinus species I have appears different from that already posted, so this may still be another +1 for the list. Also, here are the Red Harlequin photos. The upperside had been causing me problems, and I now believe them to show a female Banded Red Harlequin (Paralaxita orphna orphna). Advices would be welcome.


The Allotinus is probably A. leogoron male.
Unfortunately the forewing is largely hidden. The large submarginal spots, the hindwing pattern & narrow wingshape suggest leogoron.

The flying pic shows the bowed dorsum of a male Red Harlequin.
This is L. damajanti, probably the subspecies lola.

TL Seow:cheers:

Glorious Begum
02-Jul-2011, 03:23 PM
Thanks Anthony. :cheers:

Eurema simulatrix

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136052363/original.jpg

Vindula dejone (The Cruiser)

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136052364/original.jpg

Mycalesis anapita

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136052356/original.jpg

Appias indra

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136052371/original.jpg


Curetis santana (Malayan Sunbeam)

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136052370/original.jpg


Ancema blanka (Silver Royal)

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136052361/original.jpg

Rhinopalpa polynice helionice (The Wizard) - male

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136053961/original.jpg

Psyche
02-Jul-2011, 03:58 PM
Birdwing is T. amphrysus.
Note black body & thin hindwing black margin.

N. sankara is A. nefte form - subrata.
Note band across abdomen.

Acytolepis is A. ripte. Bornean endemic
Note forewing cellspot.

A. nigrita. E. merta & A. reta are correct.

Oakblue is A. aurea
Note underside typical of aurea group & extent of green on upperside hindwing.

Faun is F. stomphax.

TL Seow:cheers:

Painted Jezebel
02-Jul-2011, 08:25 PM
The Allotinus is probably A. leogoron male.
Unfortunately the forewing is largely hidden. The large submarginal spots, the hindwing pattern & narrow wingshape suggest leogoron.

The flying pic shows the bowed dorsum of a male Red Harlequin.
This is L. damajanti, probably the subspecies lola.

TL Seow:cheers:

Thanks, Seow. I originally thought of P. damajanti, but the hindwing made me reconsider. I'll put it back on the list.:gbounce: By the way, is it Laxita or Paralaxita?

I thought A. leogoron was larger than the specimen I photographed (I know you can not tell the size from a photo:) ), but, on rechecking I think you are right. Thanks again.

Seow, this is just a suggestion for you to consider. Do you think the last lycaenid in LC's set, post 29, might be Drupadia cindi? I ask because it seems to have the hindwing markings as stated in C&P4, and apparently, it was small ( I have no experience with this species). If not, I am completely at a loss for this one.

atronox
02-Jul-2011, 09:05 PM
Last lycaenid could be a very worn out Drupadia cinderella or even a D. cindi. I'm not so confident about this one.

Painted Jezebel
02-Jul-2011, 09:12 PM
Last lycaenid could be a very worn out Drupadia cinderella or even a D. cindi. I'm not so confident about this one.

I THINK we have a D. cindarella still to come (can't remember who shot it), but I am not certain. It is definitely larger than the specimen posted already.

atronox
02-Jul-2011, 09:16 PM
Brilliant, Aaron! This had been troubling me all trip. A +1 for my list, to take the place of the Malayan Red Harlequin, which I have had to delete from the provisional list (reasons to follow when I have processed the photos!).




Well done, Aaron.

TL Seow:cheers:

Thx Mr Teo and Les. My first thought was that it was a Chliaria sp.

atronox
02-Jul-2011, 09:17 PM
I THINK we have a D. cindarella still to come (can't remember who shot it), but I am not certain. It is definitely larger than the specimen posted already.

Borneo has many distinctive lycaenidae, besides Sulawesi and New Guinea. Looking forward to seeing somemore!!!:redbounce

Common Mime
02-Jul-2011, 10:38 PM
The inflight Red Harlequin by Les is good.

Love your Appias indra and The Wizard very much, LC. Everything has to be ended by 14 Jul in Singapore, not sure about in M'sia though. I meant the Harry Porter lah. :bsmile:

Peacock Royal
02-Jul-2011, 10:54 PM
So many species I have not seen before.
Many beautiful and excellent shots
Thanks for sharing guys

bluefin
02-Jul-2011, 11:57 PM
1st lycaenid looks like a Sinthusa privata.

Thanks Aaron for assisting in the ID. :)


Tks everyone, the Silver Royal is indeed a spectacular one. :)

bluefin
03-Jul-2011, 12:03 AM
Three Jays portrait, a sunbeam and a commander. :)


Graphium doson (Common Jay)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5032/5893384917_ba76a1aace_b.jpg


Graphium evemon (Blue Jay)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6046/5893384737_91bcee33ac_b.jpg


Graphium bathycles (Veined Jay)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6010/5893949860_39d15ee6e9_b.jpg




http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5199/5893949702_3ffaeac123_b.jpg


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6045/5893384181_f7e4439638_b.jpg

Psyche
03-Jul-2011, 12:49 AM
Last lycaenid could be a very worn out Drupadia cinderella or even a D. cindi. I'm not so confident about this one.




Seow, this is just a suggestion for you to consider. Do you think the last lycaenid in LC's set, post 29, might be Drupadia cindi? I ask because it seems to have the hindwing markings as stated in C&P4, and apparently, it was small ( I have no experience with this species). If not, I am completely at a loss for this one.

Les , you are probably right. I dont have a pic of D. cindi.
Here is one of cinderella
http://imgp-a.dena.ne.jp/exp3/20110422/135/154864775_2.JPG
The markings are bigger. Both are Bornean endemics.

TL Seow:cheers:
BTW, it is Paralaxita. Typo error.

Painted Jezebel
03-Jul-2011, 08:27 AM
Thanks so much for the D.cindarella photo. It seems I will have to rethink the one I thought may have been that species (also one I took at Danum Valley!). The photo does, however, make me feel more confident about the ID of D. cindi.

Glorious Begum
03-Jul-2011, 11:22 AM
More unknown

#1

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136073102.jpg

#2

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136073105.jpg

#3 Dacalana vidura ?

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136073107.jpg

Glorious Begum
03-Jul-2011, 11:27 AM
Are these the same Prioneris thestylis ?

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136073077/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136073079/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136073088/original.jpg

Glorious Begum
03-Jul-2011, 11:30 AM
Thaumantis odana

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136073094/original.jpg


Kalima limborgii


http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136073096/original.jpg


Coelites epiminthia


http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136073098/original.jpg


Paralaxita orphna


http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136073100/original.jpg


Erites argentina

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136073073/original.jpg

Glorious Begum
03-Jul-2011, 01:24 PM
Spot the difference.

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136073075/original.jpg

Painted Jezebel
03-Jul-2011, 03:09 PM
Are these the same Prioneris thestylis ?


According to C&P4, P. thestylis is confined to the mainland. I think these should be P. cornelia.

Painted Jezebel
03-Jul-2011, 03:24 PM
#3 Dacalana vidura ?



I don't think it can be D. vidura. According to funet.fi, there are two species of Dacalana on Borneo, both endemic. D. lowii of the vidura group, and D. sannio of the cotys group.

The difference between the two groups is that the vidura group males have a brand on the forewings, and those of the cotys group do not.

This is likely to remain a 'Dacalana sp. indet'. I do not think anyone of us managed an upperside shot of it.

atronox
03-Jul-2011, 03:36 PM
I don't think it can be D. vidura. According to funet.fi, there are two species of Dacalana on Borneo, both endemic. D. lowii of the vidura group, and D. sannio of the cotys group.

The difference between the two groups is that the vidura group males have a brand on the forewings, and those of the cotys group do not.

This is likely to remain a 'Dacalana sp. indet'. I do not think anyone of us managed an upperside shot of it.

It can't be lowii as there's a white band and it also cannot be sannio coz the yellow tornal spot is too big.:hmmm:

Painted Jezebel
03-Jul-2011, 05:03 PM
Interesting, thanks Aaron. Funet is behind with info in some cases, this must be one of them.

Glorious Begum
03-Jul-2011, 05:05 PM
Is this ok for ID ?

Painted Jezebel
03-Jul-2011, 05:08 PM
Here is an Idmon species, but I can not tell which one. According to C&P4, there are two similar species on Borneo, I. obliquans and I. latifascia, which has a wider orange-red band. I have nothing to compare mine to, so am at a loss. Any help, please!

Painted Jezebel
03-Jul-2011, 05:09 PM
Is this ok for ID ?

Yes, in part! One of the vidura group. Anyone got up to date info:grin2: ?

Psyche
03-Jul-2011, 06:27 PM
Post 45

1 Arhopala atosia.
Key line 46, 50, 52, 53/54 (atosia/lurida) Dull surface suggest it should be atosia.

2 Matapa spp. very worn , abraded surface. ( correction: this is Gangara lebadea)
Note no hyaline spots, red eyes; tornal cilia grey. Forewing underside does not match shading in Zela.probably also badly abraded.

3 Dacalana sinhara
With upperside known, note dark stria ends into orange spot. In vidura, orange spot smaller and dark stria runs above it.

TL Seow:cheers:

Psyche
03-Jul-2011, 06:35 PM
Post 46

Amazing you have 3 Pierid species.

1 Delias species.
Looks like the Indian species eucharis except the submarginal spots are not red.

2 Cepora species. (confirmation : this is Cepora pactolicus)
Could this be the Bornean subspecies montana of C. iudith or the new one called C. pactolicus.

3 Prioneris cornelia
This should be correct.

TL Seow:cheers:

Psyche
03-Jul-2011, 06:46 PM
Post 48

The 3 Pierids are very interesting.

The first two should be Catopsilia pomona.

The 3rd is very unsual. The upperside have an orange band as in Ixias pyrene, but the underside is unmarked and yellow.
Probably the Bornean subspecies called undatus.

TL Seow:cheers:

Psyche
03-Jul-2011, 06:52 PM
Here is an Idmon species, but I can not tell which one. According to C&P4, there are two similar species on Borneo, I. obliquans and I. latifascia, which has a wider orange-red band. I have nothing to compare mine to, so am at a loss. Any help, please!


Since the same subspecies I. obliquans obliquans occur in Borneo as on the mainland, and this one have the orange band almost twice as wide, this should be I. latifascia.

TL Seow:cheers:

Painted Jezebel
03-Jul-2011, 06:54 PM
Post 46

Amazing you have 3 Pierid species.

1 Delias species.
Looks like the Indian species eucharis except the submarginal spots are not red.

TL Seow:cheers:

I agree that No1. is a Delias species, when on earth did you see it and where!!!!!!!! and why did you not give me a shout!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:grin2: It is [I]Delias singapura indistincta.[/I:redbounce ] There is a small difference in the photo from the specimen in my collection in the amount of yellow on the hindwing in my specimen, but I think that this is probably just a minor variation, everything else fits perfectly.

Painted Jezebel
03-Jul-2011, 06:57 PM
Since the same subspecies I. obliquans obliquans occur in Borneo as on the mainland, and this one have the orange band almost twice as wide, this should be I. latifascia.

TL Seow:cheers:

Thanks, Seow. That is what I suspected, but I needed confirmation, not having any photo of I. latifascia to go on.

WillFolsom
03-Jul-2011, 07:00 PM
Not only do you get three butterflies to line up perfectly, but the DOF is simply perfect! What kind of magic is this? Well done! William

Glorious Begum
03-Jul-2011, 09:09 PM
We thought 3 of them are the same Prioneris. Hence we didn't call you. :bsmile: :bsmile: :bsmile:

It was found by Nelson in the woods near the river bank. :cheers:


I agree that No1. is a Delias species, when on earth did you see it and where!!!!!!!! and why did you not give me a shout!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:grin2: It is [I]Delias singapura indistincta.[/I:redbounce ] There is a small difference in the photo from the specimen in my collection in the amount of yellow on the hindwing in my specimen, but I think that this is probably just a minor variation, everything else fits perfectly.

Glorious Begum
03-Jul-2011, 09:11 PM
Thanks William. On the bright sunny day, we go all the way to f16. :bsmile:


Not only do you get three butterflies to line up perfectly, but the DOF is simply perfect! What kind of magic is this? Well done! William

Glorious Begum
03-Jul-2011, 09:19 PM
where is Nelson's shots ? Still hold on to his Super rare butts ? :bsmile:

Two more,

Bibasis sena (Orange-Tail Awl)

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136073083/original.jpg


Euthalia anosia

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136080836/original.jpg

Painted Jezebel
03-Jul-2011, 09:31 PM
where is Nelson's shots ? Still hold on to his Super rare butts ? :bsmile:



Nelson is teasing everyone. He has some 'Wow!' ones to show .....eventually, and I'm not saying what.:grin2: They will be worth the wait.

Painted Jezebel
04-Jul-2011, 12:09 AM
Post 45

2 Matapa spp. very worn , abraded surface.
Note no hyaline spots, red eyes; tornal cilia grey. Forewing underside does not match shading in Zela.probably also badly abraded.



Here is another specimen, less worn. Could it be Gangara lebedea? That is what I thought it was when I took the photo. I saw several of these, all with the pale hindwing band.

Psyche
04-Jul-2011, 01:23 AM
Here is another specimen, less worn. Could it be Gangara lebedea? That is what I thought it was when I took the photo. I saw several of these, all with the pale hindwing band.


You are right. I didn't even realised that the male of G. lebadea have no spots at all.

I couldn't ID to species because I realised except for M. aria, all the rest (Matapa) found in Borneo have orange/yellow tornal cilia.

The Cepora is confirmed to be C. pactolicus. Check http://imgl-a.dena.ne.jp/exl3/20101107/163/151570729_1.jpg

TL Seow:cheers:

bluefin
04-Jul-2011, 02:24 AM
I believed the below 3 images belongs to Drinas, but am not too sure on the exact IDs. :hmmm:

Drina cowani

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5035/5897326371_2bbd1e5918_b.jpg



Drina mariae

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6031/5897893046_0ed8e6df26_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5071/5897892774_3ebdaf4e8a_b.jpg

atronox
04-Jul-2011, 02:30 AM
2nd one shld be a Drina mariae. Not sure about the first.

bluefin
04-Jul-2011, 02:35 AM
I agree that No1. is a Delias species, when on earth did you see it and where!!!!!!!! and why did you not give me a shout!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:grin2: It is [I]Delias singapura indistincta.[/I:redbounce ] There is a small difference in the photo from the specimen in my collection in the amount of yellow on the hindwing in my specimen, but I think that this is probably just a minor variation, everything else fits perfectly.

Les, you were at the river when the shots were taken. I have shown you the pics at the river when the shots are taken and asked whether the first one is a Delias. :bsmile: :bsmile:

Psyche
04-Jul-2011, 03:02 AM
2nd one shld be a Drina mariae. Not sure about the first.

Right on Aaron. Do you have a book on Borneo butterflies ?

The 1st one is Drina cowani. The tails are white. Also D. donina is not found in Borneo. ( correction D. donina is replaced by the closely allied & similar D. ninoda in Borneo; note ninoda is an anagram of donina.)

( Rechecking since the tails of donina/ninoda can also be whitish. The extra white see-thru should confirm the ID is correct. See
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:DrinaCowaniFUpUnAC2.jpg

TL Seow:cheers:

Painted Jezebel
04-Jul-2011, 07:52 AM
Les, you were at the river when the shots were taken. I have shown you the pics at the river when the shots are taken and asked whether the first one is a Delias. :bsmile: :bsmile:

Was I? I don't remember. I only recall seeing the one P. cornelia. But then, my head was still playing up after my accident (my excuse anyway:grin2: ).

Anyway, nice to see you starting to show your rarities. and good to see my suspicions on the Drina mariae seconded.

bluefin
04-Jul-2011, 10:28 AM
2nd one shld be a Drina mariae. Not sure about the first.

Thanks Aaron for assisting in the ID. :)

:cheers:




Right on Aaron. Do you have a book on Borneo butterflies ?

The 1st one is Drina cowani. The tails are white. Also D. donina is not found in Borneo. ( correction D. donina is replaced by the closely allied & similar D. ninoda in Borneo; note ninoda is an anagram of donina.)

TL Seow:cheers:

Thanks Seow for confirming the IDs. :)

:cheers:

bluefin
04-Jul-2011, 10:47 AM
where is Nelson's shots ? Still hold on to his Super rare butts ? :bsmile:




Has been preoccupied with some commitments lately :grin2: , will try to get most of the butty pics out by tis wkend. :cheers:



Nelson is teasing everyone. He has some 'Wow!' ones to show .....eventually, and I'm not saying what.:grin2: They will be worth the wait.

"Wow" is insteresting and patience will reap rewards. :)

:drinks:

Commander
04-Jul-2011, 11:15 AM
Nelson is doing a butt strip-tease here? :bsmile:

So where's the Glorious Begum shot? :gbounce:

Painted Jezebel
04-Jul-2011, 12:44 PM
So where's the Glorious Begum shot? :gbounce:

Who has been spilling the beans?:grin2:

bluefin
04-Jul-2011, 12:56 PM
Nelson is doing a butt strip-tease here? :bsmile:

So where's the Glorious Begum shot? :gbounce:


Who has been spilling the beans?:grin2:

Did we shoot a GB?? :hmmm: :hmmm:
Let me go back tonight and check again. :whistle:

Commander
04-Jul-2011, 01:29 PM
Who has been spilling the beans?:grin2:

:bsmile: My spy satellite happened to pass by that area when I zoomed in and saw LC and Nelson proning down to shoot the Glorius Begum? :grin2:

Glorious Begum
04-Jul-2011, 01:43 PM
At that moment, We were just collecting poops for bait. :bsmile: :bsmile:


:bsmile: My spy satellite happened to pass by that area when I zoomed in and saw LC and Nelson proning down to shoot the Glorius Begum? :grin2:


http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136018573.jpg

Glorious Begum
04-Jul-2011, 10:31 PM
Polyura delphis (Jewel Nawab)

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136111246/original.jpg


Polyura jalysus (Indian Nawab)

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136110752/original.jpg

atronox
04-Jul-2011, 10:33 PM
Right on Aaron. Do you have a book on Borneo butterflies ?
TL Seow:cheers:
I don't currently have one but i have scanned some pages from D' Abrera in the national library.:grin2:

The Plane
04-Jul-2011, 11:12 PM
Nelson, use a pair of chopsticks next time. It will be easier, that's what Teo taught us :grin2: .

All the shots are very nice shots from all of you, I'm still waiting for more :redbounce

Blue Nawab
04-Jul-2011, 11:27 PM
Wow, many beautiful shots from you guys, awaiting for more surprises! :cheers:

Psyche
05-Jul-2011, 01:12 AM
At that moment, We were just collecting poops for bait. :bsmile: :bsmile:


Ever tried rotten prawn, Lc.
It is probably the most potent bait.

TL Seow:cheers:

bluefin
05-Jul-2011, 08:22 AM
Here's the Glorious One. :thank_you

LC, U should have a better shot of this GEM. :)


Agatasa calydonia (Glorious Begum)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5240/5902568471_94b954756f_b.jpg

WillFolsom
05-Jul-2011, 08:43 AM
Beauty. Great work all! William

Peacock Royal
05-Jul-2011, 09:37 AM
Absolutely gorgeous shots and capture.
We want more !!

Painted Jezebel
05-Jul-2011, 10:17 AM
Not the 'Wow' effect of Nelsons (I missed most of the great ones :cry: ), but two more that I am hoping to have confirmation of ID.

1) Neptis duryodana duryodana?

2) Female Tanaecia munda waterstradti? I thought, at first it was T. palguna, but I can not see that the latter is found on Borneo.

Psyche
05-Jul-2011, 11:36 AM
Not the 'Wow' effect of Nelsons (I missed most of the great ones :cry: ), but two more that I am hoping to have confirmation of ID.

1) Neptis duryodana duryodana?

2) Female Tanaecia munda waterstradti? I thought, at first it was T. palguna, but I can not see that the latter is found on Borneo.

Both are correct.
1. The two elongated spots in space 2 & 3.
2. In each of the whitish bands in space 2, 3, & 4,(from termen to rounded inner end) the arrowtips reach halfway or more.

Some of the Bornean subspecies have been upgraded to full species.

TL Seow:cheers:

Archduke
05-Jul-2011, 02:08 PM
beautiful.

orionmystery
05-Jul-2011, 04:57 PM
Wah..so many great shots of exotic butterflies :)

OK...my lousy shots of boring, common butterflies.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5079/5903849905_fc3146e445_z.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6037/5903850685_dfa2225782_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5077/5904410200_9366d5a3e7_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5155/5903851659_486291f1fe_z.jpg

Commander
05-Jul-2011, 05:07 PM
Those are nice shots, Kurt! Hardly boring at all! :thumbsup:

Glorious Begum
05-Jul-2011, 05:34 PM
It seems like Glorious Begum tends to leave its wings slightly open when feeding on the ground. I have seen the same in the butterfly park.

Nice shots there. Kurt

bluefin
05-Jul-2011, 05:35 PM
Those are definitely not lousy shots by any standards, Kurt.:)
:cheers:

Painted Jezebel
05-Jul-2011, 06:00 PM
'Lousy shots by Kurt' is an Oxymoron, like 'British Intelligence'!

Glorious Begum
05-Jul-2011, 10:19 PM
This Nelson can really hold on to his super rare butt. Sorry that I left very few shots for you to post.

Charaxes solon (Black Rajah)

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136149023/original.jpg

Glorious Begum
05-Jul-2011, 10:22 PM
My final shot of the trip. A butt that have been searching for years. And waited more than an hour staring at the poops for it to land. :sweat:

Present to you, Agatasa calydonia (Glorious Begum)

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/136149024/original.jpg

Leopard Lacewing
05-Jul-2011, 10:38 PM
Wow! Nice butts... looking forward to see more! :thumbsup:

The Plane
05-Jul-2011, 10:46 PM
WOW, the Glorious Begum is such a nice butt, so colorful ! Glad that you finally got it after so many years :thumbsup:

WillFolsom
06-Jul-2011, 08:13 AM
LC: Simply great. Beautiful. Wonderful! William

Glorious Begum
06-Jul-2011, 09:58 PM
Thanks guys for the nice comments.

Seow, I had tried the Shrimp paste for laksa. Not effective at all.
I will try the rotten prawn next time. Thanks :cheers:


Ever tried rotten prawn, Lc.
It is probably the most potent bait.

TL Seow:cheers:

orionmystery
06-Jul-2011, 10:54 PM
Thanks for the kind words, SK, LC, Nelson, Les.

Fuiyoh..the Glorious Begum is really stunning! Excellent shot LC.

Psyche
07-Jul-2011, 01:22 AM
Thanks guys for the nice comments.

Seow, I had tried the Shrimp paste for laksa. Not effective at all.
I will try the rotten prawn next time. Thanks :cheers:


I don't get you, LC. Did you tried the paste before or post digestion ?

TL Seow:cheers:

Glorious Begum
07-Jul-2011, 10:45 PM
I don't get you, LC. Did you tried the paste before or post digestion ?

TL Seow:cheers:

Sorry for confusion. Haven't try the Raw rotten prawn.
I tried this (picture attached) but it doesn't work. It is for cooking Penang Laksa. :bsmile:

Silverstreak
07-Jul-2011, 10:51 PM
LC ,

Great shot of the Glorious Begum!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


:cheers:

Glorious Begum
07-Jul-2011, 10:52 PM
Thanks Sunny. :cheers:


LC ,

Great shot of the Glorious Begum!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


:cheers:

Commander
08-Jul-2011, 12:52 AM
Sorry for confusion. Haven't try the Raw rotten prawn.
I tried this (picture attached) but it doesn't work. It is for cooking Penang Laksa. :bsmile:

Tried all sorts of combinations of these before. This prawn paste (or called Hare Koe in Penang Hokkien) doesn't work at all! I've also tried the Malacca Chinchalok (also a type of fermenting shrimp). Also no business.

Rotting prawn shells work, but for photography the mess around the butterfly isn't too good for me. I used a bit of the liquid from the rotting prawn, and that's ok. But if you get that stuff on you, you'll smell for days! :bsmile:

So... our Formula B still works best in all aspects. :)

bluefin
08-Jul-2011, 08:23 AM
The rest of the shots.....
Some of the IDs might be wrong or missing, guidance and assistance would be greatly appreciated. :)


Chersonesia rahria

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6012/5912745184_0874fcf341_b.jpg



Gangara lebedea

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6016/5902637297_25e9e34b7c_b.jpg



Paduca fasciata

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6002/5903177960_e791718cfb_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5074/5903177526_362008d3eb_b.jpg

bluefin
08-Jul-2011, 08:26 AM
Prioneris cornelia

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6060/5903176844_56b07b6a55_b.jpg



Delias singapura indistincta

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5274/5902617259_0946cf5e27_b.jpg


Cepora pactolicus

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5313/5913352043_de0fb769f9_b.jpg


Cepora iudith

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5274/5913352039_f51e09b66f_b.jpg

bluefin
08-Jul-2011, 08:33 AM
Papilio memnon

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6036/5913352035_24bda02f0c_b.jpg


Erites argentina

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6010/5913352031_9b41439da5_b.jpg



Saletara panda (Male)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6027/5912745206_0c4b7ec0d5_b.jpg


Saletara panda (Female)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6013/5912745204_2fbb36177c_b.jpg




Will be posting the last batch tonight, stay tuned.....:)

:cheers:

Psyche
08-Jul-2011, 11:00 AM
The IDs are

1 Chersonesia rahria

2 Cepora iudith

3 Papilio memnon ( The endemic P. acheron have very little red)

4 Appias nero ( correction - S. panda )

5 Saletara panda female.


LC, if you intend to try rotten prawn, remember to bring along a couple of Pandan leaves in the car. This works like magic to remove all pervasive smell like durian, fishy odour etc from the car.

Khew, if it is not a secret ingredient, what is formula B ?

TL Seow:cheers:

Painted Jezebel
08-Jul-2011, 11:25 AM
4 Appias nero

TL Seow:cheers:

Really? I have it as the male Saletara panda. It was too small for Appias nero and not red/orange enough. Also, the black forewing costal markings do not appear in A. nero, I believe.

A further photo herewith.

Commander
08-Jul-2011, 12:24 PM
Khew, if it is not a secret ingredient, what is formula B ?

It's our famous Malaysian Belacan! :bsmile: But from our experience, certain brands work better than others, so we tend to buy a particular brand. Even our lil' butts have a preference for high quality belacan!

Psyche
08-Jul-2011, 01:32 PM
Really? I have it as the male Saletara panda. It was too small for Appias nero and not red/orange enough. Also, the black forewing costal markings do not appear in A. nero, I believe.

A further photo herewith.

You are right Les. I always seem to get undone with these Pierids.

I thought it was much too orange for Saletara. The sharp pointed forewing . Well the Sulawesi subspp. ?zarinda (sometimes elevated to full species) have similar forewing.
I have also seen A. nero which are very pale to the point that in flight they looks somewhat like Yeomans (Cirrochloa).

TL Seow:cheers:

Silverstreak
08-Jul-2011, 01:40 PM
It's our famous Malaysian Belacan! But from our experience, certain brands work better than others, so we tend to buy a particular brand. Even our lil' butts have a preference for high quality belacan!

The brand does make a difference , they have preference over a certain Penang Brand .


From Teo's input during the book launch last year, in the last few trips we have also added E into B and the result were fairy good, it attracted a Jewel Nawab at Panti forest the first time we employed the combination.

We also observed a preference for the B and E combination by the Jays , Five Bars and even the Leopards. All the BFs prefer the BE combination, perhaps due to the protein. On the recent Fraser's Hill trip the BE combination was also employed successfully.

Another input from Ulu Gerok is the Orang Asli always use CS in collecting butterflies, the stuff is difficult to come by unless you have contact with a chicken farm.:bsmile: I have idenitfied a substitute which is essentially CS but in a much more manageable form........... will test it when I have a chance.

There is another formula F for the shade lovers, which feed on tree sap and rotten fruits , Khew told me sometimes back but it is too tedious to prepare.....

Cheers!

Psyche
08-Jul-2011, 06:08 PM
About a year ago in the Templar Park forest, I noticed several large butterflies on a piece of poop. These included several Amathusia phidippus, binghami and a couple of Tawny Rajahs.

The Rajahs becomes so tame I was able to transfer one to my sweaty fingers.

The poop doesn't smell that bad and appears to be that of a musang or some omnivorous mammal.

The advantage of rotten prawn is that the pong is so overpowering it attracts everything far and wide.

TL Seow:cheers:

WillFolsom
08-Jul-2011, 06:39 PM
I was beginning to suspect that you were sorcerers or went to school with Harry Potter and knew the secrets to attracting butterflies. So, now I know you have "Secret Formulas" A - F. Finding forumla CS is difficult here too.

Any chance of buying a small, plastic bottle of your favorite formula? I'd be interested in giving it a try here.

William

bluefin
08-Jul-2011, 11:39 PM
The IDs are

1 Chersonesia rahria

2 Cepora iudith

3 Papilio memnon ( The endemic P. acheron have very little red)

4 Appias nero ( correction - S. panda )

5 Saletara panda female.


LC, if you intend to try rotten prawn, remember to bring along a couple of Pandan leaves in the car. This works like magic to remove all pervasive smell like durian, fishy odour etc from the car.

Khew, if it is not a secret ingredient, what is formula B ?

TL Seow:cheers:


Thanks Seow for assisting in the ID. :)

:cheers:

bluefin
08-Jul-2011, 11:55 PM
Last set of pictures. Apologies for some double postings but these Jewels are simply beautiful and some are +1s for me. ;P

:cheers:


Charaxes solon (Black Rajah)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5239/5915644068_58310a5d8f_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6034/5915108693_ef7124ce10_b.jpg


Polyura jalysus (Indian Yellow Nawab)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6020/5915108451_2d12e8d308_b.jpg


Polyura delphis (Jewel Nawab)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6054/5915109055_4d4863dd41_b.jpg


Bibasis sena (Orange-Tail Awl)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6051/5915138887_41e17debc4_b.jpg


Caleta elna elvira

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5151/5915640626_421458b6b9_b.jpg

bluefin
08-Jul-2011, 11:58 PM
The Last (R) One.....



Graphium empedovana

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6020/5915156727_a3e3a153b7_b.jpg

moloch
09-Jul-2011, 01:17 PM
Lovely shots, everyone. The trip was excellent and it was fun to meet up with other BC members. I learned much about how to attract butterflies and also better photo techniques. Hopefully, my photos will improve.

Painted Jezebel
09-Jul-2011, 01:47 PM
It was great meeting you, too, David. I do so hope that I did not give you my cold! Are you back in Australia yet?

Our current total is 123 species! Hopefully Rose will be pleased.

I know of at least 4 more species which were photographed, but not yet identified. They are:
1) A Danaid, possibly of Ideopsis genus. (No idea whose)
2) A long tailed Lycaenid, with red/orange hindwings that could be a Drupadia sp. (No idea whose)
3) A Morphinae sp, poss. Zeuxidia sp. (David, yours I think)
4) A Satyrid, either Mycalesis or Ypthima, I can't remember which, with large spots on the hindwing. (David, another of yours I think)

Glorious Begum
09-Jul-2011, 01:57 PM
Congrats to you. it is a very rare butt. :cheers:


The Last (R) One.....

Graphium empedovana

Glorious Begum
09-Jul-2011, 01:59 PM
Time & Sun also important. :cheers:


Lovely shots, everyone. The trip was excellent and it was fun to meet up with other BC members. I learned much about how to attract butterflies and also better photo techniques. Hopefully, my photos will improve.

Glorious Begum
09-Jul-2011, 02:00 PM
I won't be sending you any poops for sure. :bsmile: Others can be arranged. :cheers:


I was beginning to suspect that you were sorcerers or went to school with Harry Potter and knew the secrets to attracting butterflies. So, now I know you have "Secret Formulas" A - F. Finding forumla CS is difficult here too.

Any chance of buying a small, plastic bottle of your favorite formula? I'd be interested in giving it a try here.

William

moloch
09-Jul-2011, 05:38 PM
Les,
I stayed healthy and did not catch the cold. I hope that you have recovered from yours. Coughing and broken ribs are not a good combination!

My wife and I returned to KL this morning after a week at Fraser's Hill. It always is a top place for a visit. I will start a thread soon of the butterflies that I observed. I saw over a 100 species and photographed about 85 or so including a few that I think are uncommon or rare.

Here are a few more shots from Maliau. Please correct me if my identifications are not correct.

#1. Athyma pravara
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/Athymapravara1a.jpg



#2. Neptis ilira (thanks Seow)
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/sailor2.jpg


#3. Is this Athyma reta
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/Athymareta1.jpg


#4. Another shot of the gorgeous Silver Royal (Ancema blanka).
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/SilverRoyal3.jpg


#5. Ideopsis vulgaris (thanks, Les)
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/tiger1.jpg


#6. Ypthima fasciata (thanks, Seow)
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/Ythimina1.jpg


#7. Cirrochroa satellita
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/yeoman1.jpg


#8. Puddling butterflies that include the lovely Ixias pyrene undatus (thanks, Seow)
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/orange-tip1.jpg

moloch
09-Jul-2011, 05:45 PM
#9. I know that this is a common species but I like its colours. Orange Emigrant (Catopsilia scylla).
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/OrangeEmigrant1.jpg


#10. A flat that stopped briefly at the bait one day. Odontoptilum Pygela Pygela (The Banded Angle) (thanks, LC)
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/flat1.jpg


... that is all from me.

Painted Jezebel
09-Jul-2011, 06:15 PM
David, thanks for this. You have added two species that I was not aware of as well as providing two of the photos I was hoping to see. Did I get it wrong with the Morphinae underside photo?

It is Ideopsis vulgaris, but the ID of the Ypthima species still elludes me. Can anyone help?

Your Athyma species is actualy a Neptis sp. It looks very much like Neptis harita, but I am having trouble finding any records of it having been found on Borneo! Similar species, N. ilira and N. ormeroda are found in Borneo, but it does not look like them, to me. Maybe I have the wrong sources!

PS. Great I did not infect you, I was quite worried.

moloch
09-Jul-2011, 06:51 PM
Did I get it wrong with the Morphinae underside photo?
No, not me.

Here is another photo that I forgot to post. The butterfly, unfortunately, was tattered and I cannot recognize it.
Neorina lowii (thanks, Seow)
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/nymph1.jpg

Glorious Begum
09-Jul-2011, 09:54 PM
Post 128 #10 is Odontoptilum Pygela Pygela (The Banded Angle) :cheers:

Peacock Royal
09-Jul-2011, 10:03 PM
David, lovely shots from you too.:thumbsup:

You were at Fraser's Hill a few days early - I will be there from Monday 11 July afternoon to 14 July morning @ Singapore House - mostly work and discussion but I will find time to shoot.

At the moment I have an empty room (for two people). You can return there if you want :bsmile:

Let me know soon if anyone wants to stay at Singapore House.

moloch
09-Jul-2011, 10:36 PM
Post 128 #10 is Odontoptilum Pygela Pygela (The Banded Angle) :cheers:

Thanks, LC.




David, lovely shots from you too.:thumbsup:

You were at Fraser's Hill a few days early - I will be there from Monday 11 July afternoon to 14 July morning @ Singapore House - mostly work and discussion but I will find time to shoot.

At the moment I have an empty room (for two people). You can return there if you want :bsmile:
Thanks, Federick. It is too bad that our visits did not overlap. That would have been fun. I would love to return but have to wait until next year.

Psyche
10-Jul-2011, 12:11 AM
The Neptis is N. omeroda . Note postdiscal spot in space 2 quadrate.

Athyma reta is correct.

The Ypthima is Y. fasciata following the key, though the spots are rather large. Saleint features; 2 strong inner bands; all spots are more or less in line. (in others like horsfieldi, upper 2 spots well out of line with the rest.). Female here. Gender difference ?
Two other Ypthima in Borneo.
Y. abnormis; Sarawak ; no clue. ?valid taxon.
Y. hanburyi; Sabah ; hindwing underside almost spotless.

Ixias pyrene undatus, since there is only one spp.

Post 130

This should be Neorina lowii since there is no other spp with a similar juxstaposition of those white spots.

TL Seow:cheers:

moloch
10-Jul-2011, 09:58 AM
Thanks very much, Seow, for the identifications.

moloch
10-Jul-2011, 10:13 AM
Les,

Did you record this species? These are lousy shots but I think the butterfly to be Hypolimnas anomala. Is that correct?
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/crow1.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/crow2.jpg


Mycalesis horsfieldi. (thanks, Seow)
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/moloch05/Malaysia/MaliauBasinJune2011/bushbrown2.jpg

Painted Jezebel
10-Jul-2011, 01:56 PM
Thanks, David. No, these were not on the list. This is why I will be shortly sending you all a provisional list for each of you to add those species I am not aware of.:police: :)

Mind you, I am not too sure of which Mycalesis sp. this is at the moment:embrass: .

Psyche
10-Jul-2011, 05:17 PM
The Bushbrown is M. perseoides.
The indentation is similar to perseus,but more gradually deepens, & the spots in space 1b, 2 & 3 are in line.

On rechecking, M. perseoides is not found in Borneo, so this is M. horsfieldi.
Note in horsfieldi the spots in space 1b, 2 & 3 are almost perfectly in line. In perseoides it is slightly out of line, while in perseus it is distinctly out of line.
(Note: there are 2 spots in space 1b; it is sufficient to see the alignment of the upper spot with the spots in space 2 & 3)

TL Seow:cheers:

Painted Jezebel
12-Jul-2011, 10:37 AM
I have, today, emailed all members of our party the provisional list for checking/amendments. If you do not receive it, please email me, and I'll send it again.

Painted Jezebel
12-Jul-2011, 05:15 PM
Can anyone enlighten me as to the current standing of the Kallima specimen, as shown in post #47.

I have seen both Kallima limborgii buxtoni and Kallima buxtoni used. Which is currently in vogue?

Psyche
13-Jul-2011, 12:25 AM
Moore describe Kallima buxtoni in 1879 from Sumatra not Borneo.

Funet's entry was taken from 'Butterflies of the Oriental Region' by D'Abrera published in 1986. ( BOR )

C&P4 1992 supercedes that & it list K. limborgi as distributed from Burma to Neomalaya ( Sumatra, Malaya, Borneo ).

In many instances, Sumatra & Borneo shares the same subspecies that is different from Malaya, eg. P. aristolochiae, P. nephelus.

I would stick to K. limborgi buxtoni unless there is recent news.

TL Seow:cheers:

Painted Jezebel
13-Jul-2011, 08:31 AM
Thanks fror the clarification, Seow. Funet was not the only source I had quoting L. buxtoni. There were a few photos on the net with the species name, and looking at those, I could not see any real reason for it being a separate species.

I am happy to have the entry as K. limborgii buxtoni.

Psyche
15-Jul-2011, 01:10 AM
Most of the alternate sites have their references either from Funet or D'Abrera's book. The images are also suspect.

The Yutaka website also provide indirect proof that the Sumatran/Bornean taxon buxtoni belongs to limborgii.

Subspecies amplirufa have been dropped and the whole mainland population from South Myanmar to Malaya is K. limborgii limborgii.

If there is no other subspp. then the name would have been K. limborgii only. ( That's if buxtoni is elevated to full species.)

For example, in the case of Mycalesis perseoides perseoides( as in C&P4) this had been changed to Mycalesis perseoides since Yutaka considered there is no subspecies.

TL Seow:cheers:

bluefin
18-Jul-2011, 10:16 PM
A couple of record shots pending ID. :hmmm:
Les, I believe some of these are not in the list. :)


#1 Anthene lycaenina
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6140/5946716815_47d0644acd_b.jpg

#2 Iambrix stellifer
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6131/5946718271_16d5dc280d_b.jpg

#3 Papilio memnon form anura
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6023/5947272610_c4d8bf9bf7_b.jpg

#4 Ideopsis vulgaris
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6003/5950526334_8a0ec3e4aa_b.jpg

#5 Euthalia aconthea
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6025/5946719935_7ab3859b2e_b.jpg

#6 Mycalesis marginata
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6146/5950527894_f154eb38f8_b.jpg

bluefin
18-Jul-2011, 10:46 PM
#7 Pirdana distanti
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6012/5950528430_18477be9e6_b.jpg

#8 Dophla evelina
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6024/5949969029_7579b10b16_b.jpg

#9 Vagrans egista
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6135/5950527050_e437055000_b.jpg

#10 Nacaduba berenice
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6131/5950567128_7b51d4814d_b.jpg

Glorious Begum
18-Jul-2011, 10:52 PM
Now only you start posting :nunu:

bluefin
18-Jul-2011, 11:36 PM
Now only you start posting :nunu:

Nw than got free time to go thru the rest of the pic, :hammer:
:bsmile: :bsmile: :bsmile:

Psyche
19-Jul-2011, 02:05 AM
1 Anthene lycaenina.

2 Iambrix stellifer. ( No other match, only 2 Iambrix species )

3 P. memnon form anura.

4 Ideopsis vulgaris. (hindwing marking & no brand rule out Tirumala; forewing cellend spot rule out Parantica.)

5 E. aconthea.

6 Mycalesis marginata. ( large spot in space 2 )(correction M. orseis )

7 Pirdana distanti (large orange patch concentrated at tornus; greenish colouration still noticeable. )

8 Dophla evelina.

9 Vagrans egista.

10 Nacaduba berenice. ( spots not darkened, forewing submarginal spots in space 4 & 5 pointed. )

TL Seow:cheers:

Painted Jezebel
19-Jul-2011, 10:14 AM
Great, Nelson. Thanks. 3 species not on my list. Any more to come?

Psyche
20-Jul-2011, 12:51 AM
Les, in Yutaka's website Vagrans sinha is now used for all races from India to Sulawesi.
V. egista(type location: Ambon ) is now reserved for the races from the Moluccas eastwards.
Even this reputable website on Sulawesi butterflies use V. sinha.
http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/butterflies/neotropica/sulawesi/checklist.html

TL Seow:cheers:

bluefin
20-Jul-2011, 02:42 AM
1 Anthene lycaenina.

2 Iambrix stellifer. ( No other match, only 2 Iambrix species )

3 P. memnon form anura.

4 Ideopsis vulgaris. (hindwing marking & no brand rule out Tirumala; forewing cellend spot rule out Parantica.)

5 E. aconthea.

6 Mycalesis marginata. ( large spot in space 2 )

7 Pirdana distanti (large orange patch concentrated at tornus; greenish colouration still noticeable. )

8 Dophla evelina.

9 Vagrans egista.

10 Nacaduba berenice. ( spots not darkened, forewing submarginal spots in space 4 & 5 pointed. )

TL Seow:cheers:

Seow, many thanks again for assisting in the ID. :cheers:



Great, Nelson. Thanks. 3 species not on my list. Any more to come?

That's all I have Les. :grin2:

Painted Jezebel
20-Jul-2011, 09:29 AM
Seow, sorry, but I need to query your identification of Mycalesis marginata. There is a photo here (http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/chinfahshin/satyrinae/marginata.html) which looks very different. I had the specimen as Mycalesis orseis borneensis.

Psyche
20-Jul-2011, 12:23 PM
Seow, sorry, but I need to query your identification of Mycalesis marginata. There is a photo here (http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/chinfahshin/satyrinae/marginata.html) which looks very different. I had the specimen as Mycalesis orseis borneensis.

No problem Les. An oopsie here.

I thought it doesn't quite look like anything here, and it fit the key in C&P4.
(At the back of my mind I did see a resemblance to M. orseis, but I did not followup.)
I would normally recheck by searching for images on the net, but this one have slipped thru the crack. (too preoccupied.)

BTW I could'nt access your link. However, found another.
http://hitaki-ikimono.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2011/06/36-e83b.html

TL Seow:cheers:

Painted Jezebel
20-Jul-2011, 04:42 PM
BTW I could'nt access your link.

TL Seow:cheers:

Strange, it works for me. Try this or copy and paste it: http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/chinfahshin/satyrinae/marginata.html .

Psyche
20-Jul-2011, 05:34 PM
Strange, it works for me. Try this or copy and paste it: http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/chinfahshin/satyrinae/marginata.html .

Its actually not your link.

Something is blocking connection to the website from my side.

Glorious Begum
20-Jul-2011, 06:04 PM
Its actually not your link.

Something is blocking connection to the website from my side.

It could be your system security that block the pop up. It should appear on the top sub bar. You can temporary disable it.

Psyche
20-Jul-2011, 10:36 PM
It could be your system security that block the pop up. It should appear on the top sub bar. You can temporary disable it.

Thanks LC, it is not the security. I am using Maxis. I have tried accessing earlier with another computer on another server Telekom without success.
I have no problem with the website before.
I am guessing it is something to do with the religious materials on the website.

TL Seow:cheers:

Glorious Begum
20-Jul-2011, 10:42 PM
Thanks LC, it is not the security. I am using Maxis. I have tried accessing earlier with another computer on another server Telekom without success.
I have no problem with the website before.
I am guessing it is something to do with the religious materials on the website.

TL Seow:cheers:

You are right. Malaysia Boleh. :cheers:

Glorious Begum
23-Jul-2011, 10:56 AM
Seow, need your help on this ID. Is this Faunis gracilis ?

Psyche
23-Jul-2011, 02:21 PM
Seow, need your help on this ID. Is this Faunis gracilis ?

Yes. The male of Faunis stomphax is similar with eywspots but is blackish brown.

TL Seow:cheers:

Glorious Begum
23-Jul-2011, 08:00 PM
Thanks Seow :cheers:


Yes. The male of Faunis stomphax is similar with eywspots but is blackish brown.

TL Seow:cheers:

Psyche
05-Aug-2011, 03:19 PM
An oopsie to correct, David.

Your post 127 on page 13 have a Neptis which should be N. ilira and not N. omeroda.

TL Seow:cheers:

moloch
05-Aug-2011, 06:26 PM
Thanks, Seow. I made the change to the text.