Congkak

[Glorious Begum]

I went to Sungai Congkak Recreational Forest with a few macro friends today. It is located need Kampung Kuala Pansoon (Need Ulu langat).
Very less butt today could be due to the crowd exspecially holiday.

Here are a few of it.

#1 : Amathuxidia amythaon dilucida (Koh-I-Noor)

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/132544827/original.jpg


#2 : Terinos terpander robertsia (Royal Assyrian)

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/132545239/original.jpg


#3 : Symbrenthia hypatia chersonesia (too bad that I didn't get the underside shot)

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/132544828/original.jpg

#4 : A skipper, need help on its ID. Is it Isma protoclea obscura ?

shot (i).
http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/132544829/original.jpg

shot (ii)
http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/132544830/original.jpg


#5 : Koruthaialos sindu sindu

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/132544867/original.jpg


#6 : A moth, no ID yet.

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/132544868/original.jpg

[Archduke]

shot II of the skipper makes it look very proud.
nice shot of the RA too!

[Psyche]

I always wonder how Amathuxidia amythaon ended with the name Koh-I-noor. Koh-I-noor meaning ' Mountain of Light' was a fabulous diamond once placed by the Emperor Shah Jehan on his Peacock Throne. How a blue banded butterfly can be compared to a hugh shimmering diamond is beyond me.

LC, it looks like the skipper is a male Isma iapis, but there are some nagging doubts.
Both I. iapis & I. protoclea males have long tornal cilia which is not visible here, but may be the portion folded under.
Also from the corner of the big quadrate spot is a line like a male stigma mark but could be an artefact.

Do you have other pics that shows the whole forewing and especially the tornal portion of the hindwing from above ?

These would greatly assist the ID.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Painted Jezebel]

LC, your moth looks very much like Anisoneura aluco, Noctuidae.

[Glorious Begum]

I always wonder how Amathuxidia amythaon ended with the name Koh-I-noor. Koh-I-noor meaning ' Mountain of Light' was a fabulous diamond once placed by the Emperor Shah Jehan on his Peacock Throne. How a blue banded butterfly can be compared to a hugh shimmering diamond is beyond me.

LC, it looks like the skipper is a male Isma iapis, but there are some nagging doubts.
Both I. iapis & I. protoclea males have long tornal cilia which is not visible here, but may be the portion folded under.
Also from the corner of the big quadrate spot is a line like a male stigma mark but could be an artefact.

Do you have other pics that shows the whole forewing and especially the tornal portion of the hindwing from above ?

These would greatly assist the ID.

TL Seow:cheers:

Thanks for the explanation of Koh-I-Noor. I had no clue why they used that strange common name. :bsmile:

Apology, I don't have any shot showing the skipper whole forewing. :-(


LC, your moth looks very much like Anisoneura aluco, Noctuidae.

Thanks Les

[Glorious Begum]

One interesting observation here related to big butts like Palms and above Koh-I-Noor. Many times, there are tiny wasps hanging on their wings. Probably those waps are waiting for them to lay eggs but this Koh-I-Noor is a male. :confused:

[WillFolsom]

TL Seow raised an interesting question about use of a butterfly by a member of the Chinese dynasty. Some years ago I purchased a replica of butterflies on a silk tie from the Smithsonian Museum. It was a pattern found during the Ming dynasty. I believe the Aztech peoples in Mexico used butterfly images in some of their buildings and possibly the Mayans. I don't recall butterflies in Egyptian or Classical Greek art. It would be fun to exchange comments from those who know more about this admittedly arcane subject. William

[orionmystery]

Very nice series LC.

The last moth has great camouflage!

Hehe..that's why i am always reluctant to go to parks during weekends and PHs. The crowds drive me crazy. It's like going to the malls!:omg:

[Psyche]

Apology, I don't have any shot showing the skipper whole forewing. :-(



A pity. Still, there are enough clues to suggest the ID is correct.

1. In shot (i) the 2nd or Mid leg is the one sticking out in front ( and to the right ). The 1st or basal part ( horizontal ) which is full of bristly hairs is the femur (thigh). The 2nd part which is vertical is the tibia ( shin ), & it can be seen to be studded with spines along the shaft besides the usual large ones at the end.
This effectively excludes Caltoris (esp C. bromus), Polytremis, Borbo, & Parnara.

2. Baoris spp. are larger and darker brown.

3. Pelopidas spp. all have spots on the hindwing underside except P. flavus which this individual is not.

Only Isma is left in contention. In shot (ii), from the pale cilial margin at the tornal part of the hindwing, there is indication that the cilial margin in the part folded in is twice as wide as that in the visible part.
The ochreous stippling/shading of the underside suggest the correct ID is Isma iapis.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Glorious Begum]

Thanks Seow for such a detail analysis and explanation. :cheers:


A pity. Still, there are enough clues to suggest the ID is correct.

1. In shot (i) the 2nd or Mid leg is the one sticking out in front ( and to the right ). The 1st or basal part ( horizontal ) which is full of bristly hairs is the femur (thigh). The 2nd part which is vertical is the tibia ( shin ), & it can be seen to be studded with spines along the shaft besides the usual large ones at the end.
This effectively excludes Caltoris (esp C. bromus), Polytremis, Borbo, & Parnara.

2. Baoris spp. are larger and darker brown.

3. Pelopidas spp. all have spots on the hindwing underside except P. flavus which this individual is not.

Only Isma is left in contention. In shot (ii), from the pale cilial margin at the tornal part of the hindwing, there is indication that the cilial margin in the part folded in is twice as wide as that in the visible part.
The ochreous stippling/shading of the underside suggest the correct ID is Isma iapis.

TL Seow:cheers: