Arhopala Collection for ID

[Commander]

Since we are now fortunate enough to have an expert in IDs with us, i.e. Psyche (Seow TL), we should post whatever Arhopala here so that Seow can help us nail the IDs of these lookalikes.

Please state where you shot it, so that we can also narrow down locations and the species for future references.

So start posting your "brown lookalikes" here! :cheers:

[Glorious Begum]

I post first. Taken in Bukit Cahaya, upperside is blue. :redbounce

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/130285557.jpg

[Psyche]

Arhopala inornata inornata male

Most important clue; hindwing rounded & without green tornal scales.
Forewing : posdiscal spot 4(2nd lowest in pic) not dislocated.
Hindwing : Postdiscal spot in space 6 is almost under spot 7, and roughly between spot 5 and cellend bar; complete dislocation of the postdiscal band at vein 2 (marked by a small tooth at the margin).
TL Seow

PS: Btc, Lc, no need to upload the Curetis topside as it is quite impossible to confirm ID based on that.

[Glorious Begum]

Seow, noted and many thanks. :cheers:


Arhopala inornata inornata male

Most important clue; hindwing rounded & without green tornal scales.
Forewing : posdiscal spot 4(2nd lowest in pic) not dislocated.
Hindwing : Postdiscal spot in space 6 is almost under spot 7, and roughly between spot 5 and cellend bar; complete dislocation of the postdiscal band at vein 2 (marked by a small tooth at the margin).
TL Seow

PS: Btc, Lc, no need to upload the Curetis topside as it is quite impossible to confirm ID based on that.

[Cruiser]

Hi Seow, any ID suggestion for this one. Same spp but two different individual, size about 1/2" dia.

Thanks in advance,

[horace2264]

Seow, you might want to look at this past thread (Arhopala Bin) (http://www.butterflycircle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5010) which has quite a number of Arhopala shots awaiting ID suggestions. :)

[Psyche]

Hi Seow, any ID suggestion for this one, size about 1/2" dia.

Thanks in advance,

This is a toughie. Too many clues are missing from the underside of the forewing forcing one to check out the alternaatives. I have narrowed it down to A. metamuta, A. antimuta , A. muta, and A. moorei. Its dark colour and largish spots suggest A. moorei but the tornal green area dont match.


Seow, you might want to look at this past thread (Arhopala Bin) (http://www.butterflycircle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5010) which has quite a number of Arhopala shots awaiting ID suggestions. :)

Thanks, I have a look later.

[Peacock Royal]

Shot this in Central Catchment Area, Singapore.
I know it is quite worn out. Nevertheless, I hope Seow may be able to help.

[Psyche]

Hi Seow, any ID suggestion for this one. Same spp but two different individual, size about 1/2" dia.

Thanks in advance,

Arhopala wildeyana top-female, bottom-should be male

I finally managed to figured this one out. One of the great difficulty with Arhopala is that individual variation would render any textbook description inaccurate and what are perceived as stable features unreliable. In this case whether the postdiscal band on the forewing is whole, kinked, or dislocated is inmaterial. Another is the spot in space 6 on the hindwing; this may be fully or partially under spot 7, and likewise fully or partially astride the cellend and spot 5.
The most noticeable feature is that the spots are rather large for the butterfly. Postdiscal spots 4 & 5 are fully conjoined or almost so. The 3 discal spots are large with the lowest in space 1 quadrate. The submarginal spots on the hindwing are either dome-shaped or pyramidal. Closest to Fleming's L236B Un. In the text, A. wildeyana is stated to be not uncommon in Singapore.

TL Seow

[Psyche]

Shot this in Central Catchment Area, Singapore.
I know it is quite worn out. Nevertheless, I hope Seow may be able to help.

Arhopala agrata male

Hindwing postdiscal spot 7 directly on top spot of spot 6, and a lobed tornal spot may indicate the cleander group. However, there is no spot in space 10 ie just above the cellend bar. Also there appear to be a long blackish line that runs from the inner margin of the tornus across the upper margin of the green scaling. See C&P4 41/25. Topside indicates male.

I have realised that the tornal pattern is not unique and cannot be used for absolute identification. Thankfully, this one is readily IDed following C&P4's keys i.e. key 1, 7, 8, 95, 96, 100, 120, 124, 125 and thus A. agrata.

[Commander]

Thanks, TK. Looks like more attention has to be paid to these little 'brown jobs'. I'll send pics of some specimens that I did not have any confidence in ID'ing to you. All were captured during the 1997-2003 period in our nature reserves during the NParks surveys.

I had a specimen that I'd tentatively ID'ed as A. wildeyana - a very small specimen that corresponds to what Ben Jin found. It may be a better one for you to examine especially when there are uppersides to see.

Maybe we shall wait till 2011, and push the checklist past the 300 mark. :cheers:

[Peacock Royal]

Arhopala agrata male
Hindwing postdiscal spot 7 directly on top spot of spot 6, and a lobed tornal spot may indicate the cleander group. However, there is no spot in space 10 ie just above the cellend bar. Also there appear to be a long blackish line that runs from the inner margin of the tornus across the upper margin of the green scaling. See C&P4 41/25. Topside indicates male.
I have realised that the tornal pattern is not unique and cannot be used for absolute identification. Thankfully, this one is readily IDed following C&P4's keys i.e. key 1, 7, 8, 95, 96, 100, 120, 124, 125 and thus A. agrata.

Seow, thanks a lot - your detailed explanations give all of us here a lot more insights into identifying the species.
Wow, it definitely gives me a great motivation to venture into the CCA again.
A big thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[Psyche]

Thanks, TK. Looks like more attention has to be paid to these little 'brown jobs'. I'll send pics of some specimens that I did not have any confidence in ID'ing to you. All were captured during the 1997-2003 period in our nature reserves during the NParks surveys.

I had a specimen that I'd tentatively ID'ed as A. wildeyana - a very small specimen that corresponds to what Ben Jin found. It may be a better one for you to examine especially when there are uppersides to see.

Maybe we shall wait till 2011, and push the checklist past the 300 mark. :cheers:

It will be interesting to see other examples of A. wildeyana. Although A. wildeyana is so distinctive in its large rounded spots, the pics in C&P4 did not strike a chord as they looked quite different.

[Psyche]

Seow, thanks a lot - your detailed explanations give all of us here a lot more insights into identifying the species.
Wow, it definitely gives me a great motivation to venture into the CCA again.
A big thank you for sharing your knowledge.

This is belated..
..but you are welcome. All I can say is that a good photo is half the battle won. And Good Hunting.

TL Seow

[Commander]

Here's a shot for Seow to confirm. Should be distinctive enough for an ID? Shot in Pulau Langkawi.

[Commander]

This one shot in Singapore.

[Psyche]

Here's a shot for Seow to confirm. Should be distinctive enough for an ID? Shot in Pulau Langkawi.

Arhopala ijanensis female

Female ( Abdominal tip tapers to a point)
Keys 1, 7, 8, 9, 10, 16, 17.

TL Seow

[Commander]

Arhopala ijanensis female

Female ( Abdominal tip tapers to a point)
Keys 1, 7, 8, 9, 10, 16, 17.

TL Seow


Thanks for the quick ID. :cheers: Yes, this is a female. We shot it whilst it was trying to oviposit.

[Psyche]

This one shot in Singapore.

Arhopala major major male

Male (abdominal tip truncated)
Keys 1, 7, 8, 9, 23, (skip 24) 45, 55, 59, 63, 71, 72, skip 73 (borneo spp), 74, 75(A amphimuta) or 76 (A major).
In A amphimuta the two outer spots in space 7 and spot 6 are usually roughly the same size. InA. major the middle(discal) spot in space 7 is about 2/3 or less that of spot 6. However, some amphimuta may overlaps that of major in that the middle spot in space 7 is variable in size and may be relatively small.
The icing on the cake is that the upperside of this male shows the broad brown border of A. major.
This is an excellent pic of A. major to keep for reference.

[bluefin]

After going thru old archive shot during the year, manage to dig out quite a few "brown" ones. Most of these are taken in Central Catchment area. Would like to seek some help from our Arhopala expert to ID these. Apologies for the numerous images.


A1 [ NSPL ]
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5245/5282905749_fc4218af1a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46633426@N04/5282905749/)

A2 [ NSPL ]
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5089/5282905891_a52c15f3e6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46633426@N04/5282905891/)

A3 [ KB ]
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5129/5283507002_84dc8f7474_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46633426@N04/5283507002/)

A4 [ KB ]
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5125/5282906163_9ce2bffff4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46633426@N04/5282906163/)

A5 [ USR ]
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5169/5282906321_dd546bc2f9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46633426@N04/5282906321/)

[bluefin]

A6 [NSPL ]
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5210/5282906493_b93d62e020_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46633426@N04/5282906493/)

A7 [ NSPL ]
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5287/5283507554_f7654deea8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46633426@N04/5283507554/)

A8 [ NSPL ]
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5165/5282906719_1937e569f7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46633426@N04/5282906719/)

A9 [ NSPL ]
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5287/5283507742_3ee2e1cb40_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46633426@N04/5283507742/)

[Commander]

Nelson, can you remember where you shot them? Sometimes locations can also give us a clue to narrow down the species, even as Seow helps us ID them. For some of these Arhopalas my observation is that a number of them are very local in distribution.

[bluefin]

Nelson, can you remember where you shot them? Sometimes locations can also give us a clue to narrow down the species, even as Seow helps us ID them. For some of these Arhopalas my observation is that a number of them are very local in distribution.

Okay:) , will go back and try to get the locations.

[Psyche]

A6 Arhopala eumolphus maxwelli female
Keys 1, 7, 8, 95, 153, 154, 155, ( key 191 leads to A corinda & the aurea group which can be visually eliminated), 179, 181, 187, 189.
It is usually impossible to differentiate between A. eumolphus & A horsfieldi based on the underside. Thankfully this one possess 2 characters seen only in A eumolphus; i.e. forewing postdiscal spot 4 and spot 5 overlaps by less than half, and hindwing spot 6 overlaps both the cellend bar & spot 5.
:cheers:
TL Seow

[Psyche]

A7 Arhopala pseudomuta pseudomuta male
A8 Arhopala pseudomuta pseudomuta probably male

Keys 1, 7, 8, 95, 100, 101,103, 113, 115.


A9 Arhopala epimuta epiala male
Keys 1, 7, 8, 9, 45, 46, 50, 51.

[Psyche]

Also the following

A1 A pseudomuta

A2 A. eumolphus

A3 A. centaurus

A4 A. amphimuta probably-uncertain

A5 A. major

[bluefin]

Seow, Thank you so much for assisting in IDing these brownie flyers. :)
You took juz a few hours to ID them :what: . I would have taken days if not weeks, if not months and finally give up :mad2: to come to a conclusion about their ID. :embrass:

The location of the shots has been added. :cheers:

[Psyche]

No problem, Nelson, I am only disappointed that nothing new have turn up so far.
TL Seow

[bluefin]

I am only disappointed that nothing new have turn up so far.

Ditto here, hopefully something different will turn up soon. :cheers:

[Cruiser]

Seow, one more Arhopala spp for your ID pls. Shot taken in S'pore (upper side shot by Fed).

[Psyche]

Keys 1, 7, 8, 95 ,96 ,100, 120, 124, 126, 127/146
Here is one of the difficulties: key 127( medium size ,not prominent lobe ) or 146 ( large size, prominent lobe). Looking at the butt. the tornal lobe looked rather large, but choosing 146 leads to 147 (A. cleander) which is incorrect because A. cleander male have wider brown borders.
The logical choice is then 127, to 129, 133, 134, 135.
136( A. milleri) have the wing borders a thread, & spot 6 which overlaps the cellend bar.

It is good to have a size indication of the butterfly whether medium as in A. major or large as in A. centaurus.

This is a new record.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Glorious Begum]

I give up, tried and still cannot fully understand all these keys. Shame on me. Could someone circle or draw arrow pointing the keys to the picture for dummy like me to pick up easily. :embrass:

[Psyche]

I give up, tried and still cannot fully understand all these keys. Shame on me. Could someone circle or draw arrow pointing the keys to the picture for dummy like me to pick up easily. :embrass:

Sorry Lc,
I am of not much help since I don't know how to draw lines on image files, although it may be kacang putih stuff to most. Moreover, I only have a laptop with me.
However, I thought a few simple explanations will help you understand the keys.

At rest an Arhopala will display the following spots.

Forewing ; 4 uppermost spots of the postdiscal band. They are in space 4,5,6,& 9 , with spot 9 right at the costal margin. Additional spots on the costa will be in space 10, & 11 ,both above the cell. Band often broken at vein 4 just below spot 4.

Hindwing ; postdiscal band is just a string of spots; important ,uppermost three spots which are spot 5, 6, and 7, & cell-end bar(spot). Vein 2 can be traced from the tail upwards, & is where the pd band gets dislocated.

In echelon means in line & always refer to spots 5, 6, 7, & key 9 or 95. If you can draw a line thru their centres (in line) it is key 9; if spot 6 is widely out , it is key 95.

For convenience, I have use 'spot 4' instead of the cumbersome spot in space 4, etc. Hopes this help.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Glorious Begum]

One from today catch. Is it Arhopala corinda corestes ?


http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/131828980.jpg

[Psyche]

Well LC, lucky you. This seems to be one of the Arhopala that you can ID by carefully comparing the underside.

Using the key 1, 7, 8, 95, 153, 154,155, will only eliminate 2/3 of the species leaving another 30 odd spps to sift through. However the underside is quite distinctive in many ways.

The spots are deep-coloured and contrasted with the ground colour strongly by striae which tends to be silvery.

Forewing : No costal spots in space 10 or 11. ; postdiscal spot 9 distinctly paler than 4, 5, & 6.

Hindwing :Dorsal (inner margin ) 1/3 strongly darkened. ; Postdiscal band partially dislocated at vein 2 ( by tracing the tail upwards ). ; postdiscal spot 6 wide & overlaps the cellend bar.; the tornal green patch & black spots are also an exact match.

Thus, this is A. corinda corestes female.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Glorious Begum]

Thanks Seow for confirmation and highlighted all the keys. :cheers:


Well LC, lucky you. This seems to be one of the Arhopala that you can ID by carefully comparing the underside.

Using the key 1, 7, 8, 95, 153, 154,155, will only eliminate 2/3 of the species leaving another 30 odd spps to sift through. However the underside is quite distinctive in many ways.

The spots are deep-coloured and contrasted with the ground colour strongly by striae which tends to be silvery.

Forewing : No costal spots in space 10 or 11. ; postdiscal spot 9 distinctly paler than 4, 5, & 6.

Hindwing :Dorsal (inner margin ) 1/3 strongly darkened. ; Postdiscal band partially dislocated at vein 2 ( by tracing the tail upwards ). ; postdiscal spot 6 wide & overlaps the cellend bar.; the tornal green patch & black spots are also an exact match.

Thus, this is A. corinda corestes female.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Yano]

The weather beeing not friendly, I am forced to stay at home, so finally trying to identify the Arhopala photos (not so many) I've taken this year in Singapore.

Dear Seow, will you help ID the attached? The upperside was purple (not green).

Yano

[Psyche]

You have shot Arhopala delta which I don't think was taken before.

The key lines to follow in C&P4(Butterflies of the Malay Peninsula) if you have the book are Line 1, 7, 8, 9, 23, 45, 55, 59, 60, 62.

It had been rrcorded in Singapore though.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Yano]

Dear Seow,
Thank you so much for the ID.
Only this morning I noticed it did not look like any of the Singapore Arhopala photos and was waiting for your reply. I just checked the "Fleming" and notice there is an "S" mark under Arhopala delta indicating it was recorded in Singapore. I'm so excited to record it again!!
I think I will buy the C&P4 as a Christmas present to myself. :grin2:
Yano

[Psyche]

I think I will buy the C&P4 as a Christmas present to myself. :grin2:
Yano

A jolly good idea.

I did a check as I recalled an A. delta somewhere.
Federick did shot this back in Nov. 2007., last pic.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6046

A. delta (key line 62) & A. allata(key line 61) are closely similar, and if you were to compare your shot with Flemng L179(allata) and L188(delta) it would appeared to be allata especially with all the smaller spots and the faded appearance.
However, the forewing magin is rounded and in Federick's pic the postdiscal band is clearly dislocated at the lowest visible point (at vein 4).

TL Seow:cheers:

[Painted Jezebel]

It seems I would have got the last one (A. delta) correct, (that is what I got to when using the keys, but did not feel confident enough to say so). That makes a change!

Attached is one specimen that is giving me trouble.

It has the spot in 11, which suggests a member of the Alitaeus group. However, there are two things that worry me.
1)The forewing postdiscal band is much, much wider than any specimen from this group that I have seen before.
2) Forewing postdiscal spot 4 is not as far shifted distad from 5 & 6, as normal.

[Psyche]

The shift in postdiscal spot 4 is too little as its inner margin is not stepped with spot 5 and the pale marginal line is unbroken.

I did try both lines 101 and 120 as well as line 153.

The closest match is A. aurelia ignoring the spot in space 11. The darkly contrasted colouration and broad band seems to match.

There were a few aurelia IDs in the past that may turn out to be evansi.

TL Seow:cheers:
PS. Looking at A. aida the degree of shift distad of spot 4 is quite variable and can be quite small eg. pl. 41/14. Thus following line 101 it can only be A. aida despite the band being broad.
PS2. I forgot. A. havilandi also need to be considered.

[Psyche]

I did a check of the Arhopalas, and the spot in space 11 practically IDed it as a member of the alitaeus group as you indicated earlier.
Only a few other with distinctive markings, eg. democritus have this spot.

The members with a slatey glaze and stronger contrasted markings are A. aida, havilandi, alitaeus, & sintanga.Both havilandi & sintanga are confined to Borneo & southern Malaya. In any case they look quite different.
A. alitaeus is obviously different with its rounded spots.
A. aida from Ko Samui looks quite different too.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ArhopalaAidaAidaMFUpUnAC1.jpg

Two possible members of group in Yutaka website, A. atrax & A. alax are found well up north.
I am just at a loss what this should be at the moment.

TL Seow:cheers:
PS. A. atrax & alax do not seem to be in the alitaeus group.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ArhopalaAtraxMFUpUnAC1.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/monsoon_jyoti_gogoi/4288022972/

[Painted Jezebel]

I am just at a loss what this should be at the moment.

TL Seow:cheers:


So am I!!! It just does not seem to fit anything I can see in books, either from Sundaland or the North,

[Painted Jezebel]

I seem to have missed a couple taken in Nakhon Sri Thammarat province, Thailand, that I only have as Arhopala sp. on my site. Any help on ID would be much appreciated.

Hopefully I may have some more in the next week. Both Antonio and I are suffering badly from Islanditis, and need to get off our respective islands asap, so we are off to Khao Sok National Park for 3/4 days v. shortly.

[Psyche]

If I remembered the key correctly the 1st should be easy enough A. antimuta.
The 2nd is a member of the amphimuta group. Since it does'nt looks like amphimuta or major it should be one of the other 2.
Can't remember the key exactly, some about the tornal white dot.
Need to check the book.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Banded Yeoman]

Interesting.


I know I am no expert at all to say this,
But if I remember correctly, a. antimuta has 2 of the hindwing costa spots are not alined, but facing outwards?:hmmm:

[Psyche]

Interesting.


I know I am no expert at all to say this,
But if I remember correctly, a. antimuta has 2 of the hindwing costa spots are not alined, but facing outwards?:hmmm:

Not sure what you meant Jonanthan, but A. antimuta is readily ID'ed by a combination of three features.
1. The hindwing postdiscal spot in space 7 sits directly on top that in space 6 so that their inner margins are in line.
2 The hindwing is tailless.
3. There is a green tornal patch.
4. (Additional criterion required )Hindwing postdiscal band usually completedly dislocated at vein 2)

Have a look at pic 2. The postdiscal spot in space 7 is the one with a tear-line cutting across it. Notice it sits well to the inside of the spot in space 6 (the one below it). The inner margins are staggered & totally out of line.


Pic 2 is a difficult one. It boils down to whether the postdiscal band is considered fully dislocated (amphimuta & major ) or only partially so (moolaiana & norda) at vein 2. Individual variations mean this feature overlaps.
In A. major the lunulate spot in space 1b is narrow and J or L -shaped.
In A. amphimuta it is usually narrow & V-shaped.
In A. moolaiana & norda, they are broad & v-shaped.

This one is somewhat in between.
A. major can be ruled out.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Painted Jezebel]

Thank you. Of course iNo.1 is A. antimuta, I should have easily recognised it:embrass: . There are only two tailless Arhopala where the hindwing postdiscal spaces in 5,6 & 7 are not in echelon, and the other is A. inornata, which this is most obviously not.

I am in definite need of some R&R in the jungle, my brain is going!

[Psyche]

Jonanthan, I think I know what you meant.
The other way to describe A. antimuta is to state that the 3 outer spots in space 5, 6 & 7 are out of line, thats it, you cannot draw a line through the centres of these 3 spots. (pic 1)

In pic 2 a line can be drawn more or less through the centres of these 3 spots.

Les, I supposed the 'islanditis' is the itchy rash you described in another post.
Do you need a quick cure prescription ?

TL Seow:cheers:

[Painted Jezebel]

Islanditis is a mental problem caused by staying in a restricted area too long, in this case, a small island. The quick cure is to get off the island and do a bit of travelling. I have not been off the island since my return from Teman Negara, which is far, far too long. I normally try to leave every three months, which is just about OK.

The symptoms are a general malaise, and a lack of desire to do anything at all, including the planning of the cure!!!! (so it is self-perpetuating). It has taken a lot of will-power to make myself prepare for this short trip.

Regarding pic No.2, I had narrowed it down to those 3, but also had A. zylda in the frame, as I could not see any tooth at vein 2 of the hind wing. It just does not seem to fit any of them exactly, and my failure to get an upperside shot does not help.

[Psyche]

I did suspect it was this ennui thing but got confused when You mentioned a rash in the other thread.

I already did a check on the other possible suspects.
A. zylda have the spot in space 1b straight or slightly curved, so dislocation is partial at vein 2.
A kurzi have the band widely dislocated at vein 2.
The muta subgroup all have very poorly defined markings & the band distinctly dislocated.

A. mooialana seems to have the spot in space 1b a fat V or U ?always, so dislocation at vein 2 is clearly partial.

I think it comes down to A. amphimuta or A. norda.
It looks like A norda, plate66/4 rather than A. amphimuta plate66/1.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Painted Jezebel]

I did suspect it was this ennui thing but got confused when You mentioned a rash in the other thread.



You have a good memory. The rash was discussed in the Bee Forum, after I got stung, and it appears I am hypersensitive to the Hymenoptera in general.

I keep forgetting to look at the photogravure plates in C&P4. Yes, I think it is more likely to be A. norda. Thank you.

[Painted Jezebel]

Four Malaysian Arhopala which I have tentatively identified. I would be grateful for confirmation or otherwise.

1) Endau Rompin - A. athada?
2) Endau Rompin - A. epimuta?
3) Pulau Pinang - A. aurelia?
4) Pulau Pinang - A. elopura?

[Psyche]

1, 2, & 4 are correct.

3 is actually A. athada.
The tornal lobe is strongly projecting (eg. compared to 4)
There is variability in the placement of the hindwing spots.
Spot 5 is shifted inwards more here, so the gap between it & the cellend bar appeared narrow.

TL Seow:cheers:
An example with anarrow gap.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2bg069Jz45o/ToZlNgrJK_I/AAAAAAAAEyg/eIfO_HpbJjA/s400/DSC2472%2BVinous%2BOakblue.jpg

[Painted Jezebel]

Thank you. 3 out of 4 is not bad for me!

You will be pleased to learn that this is it for the Arhopala, save for specimens from Borneo and Cambodia,...... unless you would like to have a go!:)

[Psyche]

I could give the Bornean species a try. At least C&P4's key is usable.
As for the Cambodian spp., with about a dozen 'new' and possibly marked subspecies differences, I think I better not.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Painted Jezebel]

Only 3 Bornean ones, the rest are already happily ID'd.

Good luck, they are not in the best condition!!!! I seem to recall that the first and third were rather small.

[Psyche]

1 is A agesilaus.
Key line 55. Forewing spot 4 nicely in line.
Lne 56. Hindwing spot 6 dead centre between the 2 below.
Line 57. Forewing with a basal spot.

2. should be A aurelia.
Underside purple shaded (probably Bornean race not so slatey).
All others hair-brown (line 129)
Hindwing spot 6 large & overlapping.

3. should A. evansi.
A cleander group member.
The tornal spot seems large but this would leads to A. athada, so its out, & belongs to the alea subgroup.
A. evansi have a slatey pink wash and this over brown viewed at an angle probably create the purplish tone.
Hindwing spot 6 also matched the description.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Painted Jezebel]

Dear Seow, Thank you.

I was hoping that No. 1 belonged to the muta subgroup, but then, I am always hoping! I already have this sp. recorded.

I suspected No. 2 to be aurelia, but when in Borneo, one always has to ask.

No.3 is a bit of a suprise. To be perfectly honest, the photo is rubbish. I would not expect an ID from such a photo. It was small! Definitely an alea subgroup, but after that I get confused.

PS. I am off to Khao Sok National Park tomorrow morning with Antonio for four days. Please take a rest, depending on what we find, you may need it!!!!!:grin2:

[Cruiser]

Captured this Arhopala spp during yesterday's outing. Maybe Seow or others can help to ID it?

[Peacock Royal]

Captured this Arhopala spp during yesterday's outing. Maybe Seow or others can help to ID it?

Here is my shot

[horace2264]

Looks like the aberatted form of A. amphimuta I bred few years ago. :thinking:

[Psyche]

Looks like the aberatted form of A. amphimuta I bred few years ago. :thinking:

It is either A. amphimuta or major.

I am inclined to think it is A. major for the following reasons, but could be wrong.

The postdiscal spot in space 1b is usually a V with both arms roughly of equal length in amphimuta.
In major it is a L or J with one arm shorter.
A. major appeared to be much the commoner of the 2 spp.

TL Seow:cheers:

[Painted Jezebel]

This appears to be a 'common' ab, even I managed to photograph one (badly as usual) on my only visit to Singapore back in 2008.