Thx again for your help. The first two, I am very convinced that you have nailed with your usual eloquence. The third one, on the other hand... I remember it as very small, it has reddish-brownish legs, that I do not see in any of the pics of Ilema vaneeckei, which seems to be a Sundaland species not recorded from Thailand, and this record is from extreme Northern Thailand. Are you sure?