Post 11.
You got them right.
1. C. furcztz.
The black area in space 1a is large & comes close to the margin
The large spot in space 1b is angled inwards.
2. C. bejaminii japonica.
The black area in space 1a is small & does not come near the margin.
The spot in space 1b is not angled in.
The tail is particularly short.
Evans state of C. benjaminii & furcata, the two black spots in space 2 (which is partially orange) are placed centrally ie roughly equal distance from vein 2 below & vein 3 above.
In C. stigmata the two spots are nearer vein 3 above & in C. xanthopogon they are nearer vein 2 below.
Can be hard to judge.
Upperside male C. benjaminii mostly green; C. stigmata & furcata, basally green;C. xanthopogon mostly brown.
TL Seow: Cheers.
I have just read through Evans' description of Pedesta & realised there are some confusion between P. panda & pandita.
Pedesta panda; FW spot in space 3 (spot 3) small & well-separated from the cellspot. Spot 2 is close to the cellspot.
Spots yellow.
Note FW subapical spots large & in line. Antennal tip orange without a white dot.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...5919ed5f-2.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...5919ed5f-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...98ae8596-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...98ae8596-2.jpg
MisIDed.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...2bd23ca2-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...2bd23ca2-2.jpg
Pedesta pandita. FW spot 2 well-separated from the cellspot. Likewise so would spot 3.
Darker brown above & spots pale yellowish.
Note FW subapical spots smaller & tapering. Antennal tip orange with a white dot.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...00375cb7-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...00375cb7-2.jpg
Variant with spot 2 & 3 not overlapping.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...53f557fe-2.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...53f557fe-1.jpg
Correction: Both examples of P. pandita are actually Thoressa hyrie.
The large subapical spots & antennal tip orange , without a white dot ID'ed this as Pandita panda. Correction: Conclusion in error.
TL Seow: Cheers.
Last edited by Psyche; 25-Apr-2021 at 04:16 PM.
Many thanks for looking into it, sir. So, Pedesta pandita, both male and female, have white dot on antennae? This means most of the IDs on ifoundbutterflies are incorrect and P. panda possibly extends further west from Nagaland, up to Nepal.
Sajan KC
It seems P. panda is the commoner species & P. pandita is the much rarer.
The correct images of both species are based on the UpF spots arrangement & there is no ambiguity between the two species , ie. the spot arrangement is distinct for each species.
The spots are also distinctly yellow in P. panda.
All correct images are male & the antennal colour of the female can only be inferred at.
Pedesta is very closely related to Halpe which also show similar antennal tip colour.
Species like Halpe zema, zola & ormenes have the antennal tip orange with a white dot in both sexes.
H. zema.
Male.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...8ff2a400ad.jpg
Female.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...19d92fff-3.jpg
Halpe ormenes female on the right. Singapore.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...Bene%20Tay.jpg
Most species without the white dot.
H. hindu male.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...110aeaa5-1.jpg
Female.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...Saji_ad984.jpg
TL Seow: Cheers.
PS. Need to check out possible confusion of P. pandita & Thoressa hyrie.
Last edited by Psyche; 25-Apr-2021 at 03:51 PM. Reason: PS
Correction.
All examples of P. pandita in which the antenna tip have a white dot at the base are Thoressa hyrie.
These are Thoressa hyrie.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...00375cb7-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...00375cb7-2.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...53f557fe-2.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...53f557fe-1.jpg
Pedesta pandita ;FW spot 2 & 3 broadly overlapping & well separated from the cellspot. Subapical spots large & in line.
Antennal tip orange without a white dot.
Correct image of Pedesta pandita.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...ekar_aa653.jpg
http://www.butterflycircle.com/attac...chmentid=26918
Based on its overall brownish shading it is likely to be P. pandita.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...unte_an485.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedesta_pandita
The main doubt is the more gradual antennal club.
TL Seow: Cheers.
That's a great digging, sir! That's why I was wondering why Pedesta pandita had a male brand. I do agree that my species is P. pandita. Thank you so much again!
Sajan KC