Doubtful IDs from Nepal

[Nawab]

Post 13.
P. guttata ;Usually 2 cellspot, often upper one absent, also may not any cellspot.
HW almost always with a spot 6.

Thank you, sir. C. bromus is new to Nepal. I'm confused about P. guttata, I thought it almost never had HW spot 6 while you said "almost always with a spot 6."

[Psyche]

Thank you, sir. C. bromus is new to Nepal. I'm confused about P. guttata, I thought it almost never had HW spot 6 while you said "almost always with a spot 6."

Oops. You are right P. guttata almost never with a HW spot 6.

That means 1 & 2 could be either P. guttata with a HW spot 6 (very rare) or P. bada with cellspots ( one or two).

The aapearance with the FW spots widely spaced is that of P. bada .
Although there is no mention of P. bada with two cellspot it is always possible as an aberration.

P. guttata with two cellspots ,the lower one almost obsolete, spots close together, ; HW without spot 6.
https://v3.boldsystems.org/pics/HSPE...1276428550.JPG
https://v3.boldsystems.org/pics/HSPE...1276428576.JPG



TL Seow: Cheers.
PS examples of Parnara with cellspots in Maharastra ,Karnateka, S. India where only P. bada is known
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...7c7ba7bd-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...c7ba097a-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...ca70cada-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...e0043bd1-4.jpg

P. ganga range extend to Gujarat & Madhya Pradesh.

[Nawab]

Sir, could you tell me about Caltoris confusa? Can it have HW spots?

[Psyche]

Sir, could you tell me about Caltoris confusa? Can it have HW spots?

Caltoris confusa.
Similar to C. bromus but,
1, Darker & often with reduced markings, ie. upper cellspot & spot 3 may be absent; FW spot 2 & 3 narrower ( tend to be quadrate in C. bromus )
2. UnF without a spot/pale area in space 1b.
UpF male without a spot in space 1b .(Note C. bromus male occasionally have a space 1b spot UpF.)
3. UnH without spot ; overlaid with ochreous scalings; impossible to differentiate from bromus or sirius.

There is an example from China in the article below. fig 19-20.
https://www.zobodat.at/pdf/Atalanta_42_0193-0200.pdf
Compare also with C. bromus female , fig 15, 16.
And C. bromus male fig 49 to 52.


TL Seow: Cheers.

[Nawab]

Thank you, sir. Could you look at this Rapala? I guess one of R. rectivitta or R. nissa.
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[Psyche]

Should be correct as the female Rapala nissa.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...pale_aq353.jpg


TL Seow: Cheers.
There is no description of the female R. rectivitta.
R. rectivitta is said to have straighter bands.
Possibly bands are always brown & cilia dark brown.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp...ala-rectivitta

[Nawab]

This Spindasis syama peguanus seems to be different than others I've seen. The FW marginal line is broken and post discal lines re joined. Could it be someting else?

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