Doubtful IDs from Nepal

[Nawab]

Sir, could you tell me about Caltoris confusa? Can it have HW spots?

[Psyche]

Sir, could you tell me about Caltoris confusa? Can it have HW spots?

Caltoris confusa.
Similar to C. bromus but,
1, Darker & often with reduced markings, ie. upper cellspot & spot 3 may be absent; FW spot 2 & 3 narrower ( tend to be quadrate in C. bromus )
2. UnF without a spot/pale area in space 1b.
UpF male without a spot in space 1b .(Note C. bromus male occasionally have a space 1b spot UpF.)
3. UnH without spot ; overlaid with ochreous scalings; impossible to differentiate from bromus or sirius.

There is an example from China in the article below. fig 19-20.
https://www.zobodat.at/pdf/Atalanta_42_0193-0200.pdf
Compare also with C. bromus female , fig 15, 16.
And C. bromus male fig 49 to 52.


TL Seow: Cheers.

[Nawab]

Thank you, sir. Could you look at this Rapala? I guess one of R. rectivitta or R. nissa.
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[Psyche]

Should be correct as the female Rapala nissa.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...pale_aq353.jpg


TL Seow: Cheers.
There is no description of the female R. rectivitta.
R. rectivitta is said to have straighter bands.
Possibly bands are always brown & cilia dark brown.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp...ala-rectivitta

[Nawab]

This Spindasis syama peguanus seems to be different than others I've seen. The FW marginal line is broken and post discal lines re joined. Could it be someting else?

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[Psyche]

S. syama have a FW cellbar which is club-shaped & a HW sub-basal band broken into 3 spots.

2, other species with these features are S. elwesi & zhengweilei.

In S. zhengweilei the head of the club may be detached & the bands are narrow, with wide spacing of the ground colour.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp...is-zhengweilie


It is quite similar to S. elwesi.
Evans described this Un pale yellow with broader bands, the male UpF blue shot ,often with orange markings.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lyc4/82865001.html
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp...indasis-elwesi

Several features suggest this might be S. elwesi.
The HW marginal (or submarginal) line is broken into spots.
THe UpF twin postdiscal bands converge more.
The bands are rather broad.

However it easily may be a form of S. syama without seeing the upperside.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/sp...pindasis-syama


TL Seow: Cheers.

[Nawab]

Thank you, sir. Evans, 1932 says broader black bands, the bands aren't very black. The submarginal spots and the converged postdiscal bands are indeed confusing. No UpF shots taken. The place had many S. syama but two of these forms were seen on same location along with some S. lohita.