Many thanks for looking into it, sir. So, Pedesta pandita, both male and female, have white dot on antennae? This means most of the IDs on ifoundbutterflies are incorrect and P. panda possibly extends further west from Nagaland, up to Nepal.
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Many thanks for looking into it, sir. So, Pedesta pandita, both male and female, have white dot on antennae? This means most of the IDs on ifoundbutterflies are incorrect and P. panda possibly extends further west from Nagaland, up to Nepal.
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It seems P. panda is the commoner species & P. pandita is the much rarer.Originally Posted by Nawab
The correct images of both species are based on the UpF spots arrangement & there is no ambiguity between the two species , ie. the spot arrangement is distinct for each species.
The spots are also distinctly yellow in P. panda.
All correct images are male & the antennal colour of the female can only be inferred at.
Pedesta is very closely related to Halpe which also show similar antennal tip colour.
Species like Halpe zema, zola & ormenes have the antennal tip orange with a white dot in both sexes.
H. zema.
Male.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...8ff2a400ad.jpg
Female.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...19d92fff-3.jpg
Halpe ormenes female on the right. Singapore.
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...Bene%20Tay.jpg
Most species without the white dot.
H. hindu male.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...110aeaa5-1.jpg
Female.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...Saji_ad984.jpg
TL Seow: Cheers.
PS. Need to check out possible confusion of P. pandita & Thoressa hyrie.
Last edited by Psyche; 25-Apr-2021 at 03:51 PM. Reason: PS
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Correction.
All examples of P. pandita in which the antenna tip have a white dot at the base are Thoressa hyrie.
These are Thoressa hyrie.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...00375cb7-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...00375cb7-2.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...53f557fe-2.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...53f557fe-1.jpg
Pedesta pandita ;FW spot 2 & 3 broadly overlapping & well separated from the cellspot. Subapical spots large & in line.
Antennal tip orange without a white dot.
Correct image of Pedesta pandita.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...ekar_aa653.jpg
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http://www.butterflycircle.com/attac...chmentid=26918
Based on its overall brownish shading it is likely to be P. pandita.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...unte_an485.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedesta_pandita
The main doubt is the more gradual antennal club.
TL Seow: Cheers.
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That's a great digging, sir! That's why I was wondering why Pedesta pandita had a male brand. I do agree that my species is P. pandita. Thank you so much again!
Sajan KC
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You are right about the male brand.
All Pedesta species have none.
Everybody make errors.
Even many museum lodged specimens are misidentified.
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