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					Hi Dr Seow, 
 
Which Telicota sp. are these? Are they both T. besta? 
1. 
Besta Palm Dart (4).jpg  
 
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Telicota sp. 2.jpeg 
				 
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
				 
			
			
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					They are both Telicota besta  male. 
 
Do not be confused by the colour in photos as much depends on the white balance. 
 
Here is a review. 
 
T. colon  male :FW spots staggered, ie not in line; spots 4 & 5 often distorted. 
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iRfNeV5wQ...t-LemonTea.jpg  
 
 
T. augias   male; Always a uniform deep orange including face; FW spots 4 & 5 equal; HW veins not dark-dusted. 
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Hp7OPF_eJ6...as-augias).jpg  
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6riT3uzrel...ias_male_1.jpg  
 
 
T. linna  male: FW spots 4 & 5 equal; HW veins not darken ;ground colour dusky; Face & lower abdomen pale. 
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-79Gj7N-1G...TL_male_01.jpg  
https://alchetron.com/cdn/telicota-6...resize-750.jpg  
 
 
T. besta  male; FW spots 4 & 5 equal; HW veins strongly raised & may be lightly darken; only face paler. 
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EcRIOq2iv...t_male_-04.jpg  
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UaQyq4Qv0D...B_adult_01.jpg  
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LFTJK1e_eF...C_0409-001.JPG  
 
 
T. bambusae  .I am unsure if this occur in Singapore. 
Continental specise but feed on common grasses such as rice, bamboo, maize & sugar cane. 
Small species FW 15mm, compare with T besta  17-20mm. 
FW spots 4 & 5 equal .FW short & spots wide; HW veins not darken.face paler. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/maanay/50385196348  
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...B_DSC_3871.jpg  
 
 
 
 
TL Seow: Cheers.
				 
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	 
	
	 
 
	
	
		
		
		
		
			  
		 
		
				
				
		
			
				
			
			
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					Hi Dr Seow, 
 
Would require some help with the IDs. 
 
1. Telicota besta? 
aaaa.jpeg  
 
2. Is it possible to ID with just the upper wing shot? Did not get a chance to shoot the undersides. Size wise, it was quite large, definitely larger than the typical Pelopidas. Could it be Pelopidas assamensis? 
great swift....jpeg 
				 
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
			
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					Post 4. 
 
1. Female Telicota besta  . Note longer bodyshape. 
 
 
2. Pelopidas conjunctus . ? female. 
 
 
P. mathias   FW 16-18mm.;FW spots whitish. 
Subapical spots usually not in an arc. 
Female with extra small upper spot in space 1b just below spot 2. 
FW cellspots small; a line drawn thru them moves close or cut the large lower triangular spot in space 1b. 
Female. 
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f8ydI8r9_...perside_01.jpg  
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eYsLtkDVM...perside_02.jpg  
 
 
P. agna  Larger FW 17-20mm. FW spots whitish. 
Subapical spots usually not in an arc. 
Female with extra upper space 1b spot. 
FW cellspot small; a line drawn thru them moves away from the larger lower space 1b spot. 
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check..._female_02.jpg  
 
 
Pelopidas conjunctus . Large FW 21- 23mm. FW spots yellowish; HW spots whitish. 
FW subapical spots in an arc. 
Female without the extra small upper space 1b spot. 
Male without a brand but with a space 1b spot. 
Male & female. 
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FvDO3Lfw_...lt_Khew_03.jpg  
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p3O1nQxBf...lt_Khew_01.jpg  
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Qmzp-Y5H8...mesChia_01.jpg  
 
 
Pelopidas assamensis   Very large .FW 23 - 27mm. 
All spots white, the FW ones large & prominent. 
Male without a brand but with a space 1b spot. 
Antennae with broad white band. 
https://www.nparks.gov.sg/florafaunaweb/fauna/1/1/1104  
 
 
 
 
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					Hi Dr Seow, 
 
Require some help with these IDs. Thank you! 
 
1. Caltoris cormasa? 
Cormasa.jpeg  
 
2. Caltoris cormasa? 
cormasa 2.jpeg  
 
3. Caltoris philippina? 
c.philipina.jpg  
 
4. Cephrenes sp. 
Cephrenes sp.jpeg  
Cephrenes sp open.jpeg  
 
5. Potanthus omaha? 
P. omaha.jpeg 
				 
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
			
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					POst 7. 
1 Female Caltoris cormasa. 
2 Male C. cormasa.  
 
Note reddish tone ;FW subapical spots tend to be small, & often three. 
 
 
 
3. Polytremis lubricans . Male. 
There is too much blue rendering the colour unusual. 
UnH is r4ahter coarsely scaled & the spots may not be apparent. 
FW spots distinctly yellow, in male upper cellspot often triangular. 
 
Males. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/155010380@N05/43383536271  
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...hee%20Beng.jpg  
Cambodia. 
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...1919/large.jpg 
				 
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	 
	
	 
 
	
	
		
		
		
		
			  
		 
		
				
				
		
			
				
					4 Female Telicota linna.  
 
UnH veins across band not dark dusted. Ground colour dusky. 
The underparts are also more strongly pale in this species. 
Male. 
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-79Gj7N-1G...TL_male_01.jpg  
Female. 
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-e_7pWdo7X..._female_03.jpg  
 
 
Cephrenes acalle. 
UnH veins strongly black & bands edged with sharp spots; Female often purplish. 
Male. 
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rX8XkLl3Z...Dart-FedHo.jpg  
 
Females. 
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...ace_02.jpg.jpg  
Thailand. 
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...nes-acalle.jpg 
				 
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	 
	
	 
 
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
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					5. Potanthus omaha   male. 
The black line at abdominal end is thicker than usual. 
 
Females of most species usually have some dark shading at abdominal end dorsally. 
 
 
 
P. omaha'  HW band veins dark dusted above & below. ground lightly dark. 
Male 
http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...obby%20Mun.jpg  
Female  
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...433/large.jpeg  
 
 
P. ganda ; deeper orange; HW band veins not dark dusted or barely so ,both surface. 
Male. 
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1337/...ac5c42d89d.jpg  
Female. 
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...Y7OFM&usqp=CAU  
 
 
 
P. confucius  ;  Spots broadly overlapping ;Veins across band not dark dusted on both surface. 
Male upperside have a continuous FW band without being interrupted by dark veins. 
Males. 
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-B2W0fVicLA...-confucius.jpg  
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9032/large.jpg  
Compare with the appearance of P.omaha.  
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9009/large.jpg  
And that of P. ganda.  
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama.../original.jpeg  
 
 
Potanthus juno.   Very rare .Abdominal end may be lightly bande. 
Typicall with two subapical spots, spot 8 absent, sometimes vestigial. Spot 5 often smaller than spot 4. 
UnH upper end of band often rounded. 
Male Thailand 
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...o-1080x675.jpg  
 
Singapore. 
Male. 
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eLxO6Cqrl-...it%2BBrown.jpg  
Females  
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WroJpPq0U...Dart-KohCH.jpg  
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...949/large.jpeg  
 
 
The other species P. trachala, mingo, & serina  have a distinct black band at abdominal end. 
 
 
TL Seow: Cheers.
				 
			 
			
		 
			
			
			
				
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