ID need scrutiny...

[Saffron]

Hello Seow sir,
I hope everything is going well and you are healthy and fine as always.
Just wanted to know is there any chance of the following species to be J. caeruleus? Or is it Jamides elpis??

The reason behind my suspect is,
1. FW lowest basal striae seems hangs free. (not sure up to what extent).
2. Does the white striae grey shaded and sullied as you always refer?

IMG_20200917_172908.jpg

Your suggestions and advice needed.

Thank you.

[Saffron]

I realized later that the UNH basal striae are not aligned. So, perhaps Jamides elpis.
Still I need your suggestions and advice.

[Psyche]

Jamides elpis pseudelpis. Male.

There is much confusion with the two species because of individual variations.
In India DSF forms cause further confusion.


Jamides elpis pseudelpis.
Male pale whitish blue on the HW, deeper blue on the FW with black border a thread.
Underisde with the bands not contrasting with the ground colour.
UnF postdiscal band ,last stria attached to inner end, rarely may be free hanging as in J. caeruleus.
HW with the 2nd stria in space 7 typically nearer to the 2nd stria in the cell, variable.
Male Thailand.
https://www.neutron.phys.ethz.ch/Lep...AZ11-0116R.jpg
https://www.neutron.phys.ethz.ch/Lep...AZ11-0116V.jpg
India.
http://www.flutters.org/home/photoga...icture&id=1630
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...97cf3608-2.jpg
Female Singapore.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr..._bN-tFhMEvzIvw

[Psyche]

Jamides caeruleus caeruleus.
Male HE medium blue, deeper on the FW with a slightly thicker black border.
Underise darker , the bands often darker , contrasting with the ground colour.
UnF postdiscal band last stria hangs free.
HW 2nd white stria in space 7 nearer that 3rd stria in the cell.
Male P. Malaysia.
https://www.neutron.phys.ethz.ch/Lep...AZ11-0378R.jpg
https://www.neutron.phys.ethz.ch/Lep...AZ11-0378V.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/still-air/32942723016
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xUGk2t8Gb...C_0705-001.JPG
Singapore male & female.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rzo8wjfyC..._male_02_c.jpg
https://www.butterflycircle.com/chec...race%20Tan.jpg

Borneo.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...sMFUpUnAC1.jpg


J. caeruleus in India.
The markings are irregular suggesting a DSF.
FW postdiscal last stria hangs free.
HW 2nd stria in space 7 much nearer the 3rd stria in the cell.
UpH blue much deeper tha in J. elpis male.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...92e50d91-1.jpg
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...92e50d91-2.jpg

Compare with typical male J. elpis in India in the same state.
https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/me...97cf3608-2.jpg


TL Seow: Cheers.