The upperside certainly muddies the water for me, as the female R. manea is much duller than the female R. pheretima on the upperside. If this is R. manea, then I will have to stop ignoring all the 'pheretima' I've been seeing, and check each one as I am yet to confirm D. manea on Samui.

I like to think I'm wrong, as this could mean another +1 in due course!

Irrespective of this discussion, they are beautifully clear shots.

Les
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