ID request - Penang - April 5, 2024

[Psyche]

#1 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/205401482
Likely Pyroneura helena.

The picture quality is very poor & the colour balance is off.

P. helena have a large rectangular hyaline spot in HW space 4-5, surrounded by dark bars.
FW margin with the orange continuous along the margin.
No other species quite match these.
See fieldshot at the bottom.
https://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92000001.html
Also.
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...eura-helena-2/


#2 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/205394578

Isma bononia.
The UnH has a series of hyaline spots edged in black making a meandering pattern.
The hyaline spots can be difficult to discern.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/29688360
https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterflies/isma-bononia/

Two species are very similar.

Isma bononia Underside is olive .
Isma bononoides underside is ferruginous -rusty-brown.