Post 2.
Female Euthalia monina.
In FW space 1b, near the base are two small spots, one flat.
Tanaecia only have a single large spot in the same place.
TL Seow: Cheers.
Post 2.
Female Euthalia monina.
In FW space 1b, near the base are two small spots, one flat.
Tanaecia only have a single large spot in the same place.
TL Seow: Cheers.
Hi Dr Seow,
I went to look through my Tanaecia photos and maybe you could double check them, see if anything is different.
1. This one should be a typical example of T. pelea
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/141865471
2. This one the HW arrows seem different from the typical T. pelea, shot last year April at Rifle Range Link. The photo size is too large to upload here so here's the iNaturalist link
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/149131919
Jian Kai
Post 4.
Both are typical Tanaecia pelea.
Of the similar species only Tanaecia munda is recorded in the past.
The arrowheads in T palguna & munda are set nearer the outer margin than the inner border.
The males of T. palguna & munda have a more tapered HW & stouter built, ie like a male Euthalia.
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim2/720960001.html
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim2/720950010.html
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim2/720940020.html
Since only T. munda is recorded from Singapore, it is best to concentrate on this species.
The HW have more white & the arrowheads are sharper.
https://singapore.biodiversity.onlin...doptera-000485
Male female T. pelea.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/119214231
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/129776840
Male & female T. palguna.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/140354343
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/137945298
?MaleT. munda.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/122783738
TL Seow: Cheers.
Last edited by Psyche; 24-Jul-2023 at 01:41 AM.
Post 6.
This is still a female T. pelea.
Note in particular each of the white spots have the inner borders narrowly tapered.
These females T. palguna & T. munda have been DNA barcoded.
The inner borders of the FW white spots are broadly rounded.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile...unda-right.jpg
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/...fig2_351466256
TL Seow: Cheers.
Correction
These females T. palguna & T. munda have been DNA barcoded.
The inner borders of the FW white spots are broadly rounded.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile...unda-right.jpg
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/...fig2_351466256
It is regrettable that the specimen of the female T. palguna shown in the research article is actually a female Euthalia monina.
Note the double small spots in FW space 1b sub-basally.
TL Seow; Cheers.
REViSION.
Having look & compare with the female T. munda in the corrigenda of C&P5, this could possibly be a female T. munda.
https://www.mothsofborneo.com/Corrig...Nov12_2021.pdf
This female is identical to the female T. munda in the Corrigenda of C&P5.
https://a4.pbase.com/o6/25/686825/1/...aia_female.jpg
Typical male & female T. pelea. HW arrowheads tend to be midway or nearer the inner border of the marginal zone.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nRUv8knvc...count-BenY.jpg
Males.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HPyCZXC32...unt-LokePF.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ThTh5VhSK...ederick_03.jpg
Females.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bTGnw3X0J...ichaelKhor.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jDws3eQQ3...count-AntW.jpg
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim2/720960001.html
T. munda HW arrowheads always nearer outer margin in the male, midway in the female; HW more white.
Singapore male. HW tapers to the tornus.
https://singapore.biodiversity.onlin...0485?imageId=1
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim2/720940020.html
Note; Needs a male to confirm the presence of this species.
TL Seow: Cheers.
Last edited by Psyche; 24-Jul-2023 at 11:27 AM.
Many thanks, Dr Seow for the added insights to the distinguishing features of both sexes of T. munda.
We need to work harder and probably spend more time in Ubin in our search for T. munda.![]()
Horace
This observation is interesting in that the FW arrowheads ,rendered in white are separated from the series of postdiscal spots to the inside.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/137292791
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...783/large.jpeg
In all the three other similar species in P. Malaysia the white area to the inside of the arrowheads are not separated as distinct spots.
T. pelea male.
https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...253/large.jpeg
T. palguna male.
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ia-palguna.jpg
T. munda male.
https://singapore.biodiversity.onlin...0485?imageId=1
T. aruna male.
https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ia-aruna-1.jpg
http://yutaka.it-n.jp/lim2/720930001.html
Tanaecia is very variable & the subspecies from nearby islands eg Sumatra ,Borneo are very confusingly different.
This looks almost certain to be T. aruna but one can not rule out a form of T. pelea say from Borneo, an escapee from a butterfly farm.
Better pix will help to confirm the ID.
TL Seow: CHeers.
Last edited by Psyche; 15-Mar-2023 at 06:45 PM.