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    Default Taman Negara Malaysia butterflies ID request

    Hi Dr Seow,

    Appreciate if you could help me look through the following photos and shed light on some of the species.

    Thank you!

    1) Initially thought it was Paralaxita damajanti but after seeing abit of the upperside of HW, I am not sure if it is Paralaxita orphna female instead?

    DSC_0117.jpgDSC_0150.jpg

    2) Pyroneura helena?

    DSC_0985.jpg

    3) Ypthima fasciata?

    DSC_0016.jpg

    4)Koruthaialos rubecula?

    DSC_0623.jpg

    5) Koruthaialos rubecula?

    DSC_0654.jpg

    6)Idmon obliquans?

    DSC_0038.jpg

    7)Nacaduba sp.; unfortunately no upperside shot but just a little peak at the colour on the FW.

    DSC_0515.jpgDSC_0584.jpg

    8) Allotinus sp.; unfortunately no upperside shot too.

    DSC_0939.jpg

    9) Allotinus sp.

    DSC_0992.jpg
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    Oh dont know why left out on an attached image.

    That should be Celaenorrhinus aurivittatus?

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    1. Male Paralaxita damajanti.Correction: Female. UpH darker

    P orphna.
    FW & HW rounded .
    HW with one marginal white band.
    HW sub-basal black band broad & largely unbroken (except barely by vein sometimes.)
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/rio/8a280010.html
    Male Endau-Rompin.
    http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_i...alaocoon.v.jpg
    Female Taman Negara. FW apex more orange than P. damajanti female.
    https://live.staticflickr.com/7464/1...faf8f37d_b.jpg
    Female Thailand.
    https://64.media.tumblr.com/ae815459...539cd501ee.jpg

    P.telesia.
    FW margin straight ;HW margin angular.
    HW with 2 whitish marginal bands.
    HW basal black band flanked by pale bands; sub-basal band broken into 4 black spots.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/rio/8a270010.html
    Male. Negri Sembilan. Note HW sub-basal black band broken into several spots.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...1003/large.jpg
    Male.Thailand.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ta-telesia.jpg

    P. damajanti
    FW margin straigh; HW margin less angular.
    HW with 2 whitish marginak bands ;in female outer white band obscure.
    HW sub-basal band broad (as in orphne)but upper end separated as a narrower spot.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/rio/8a260001.html
    Male Cameron Highlands.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/187499...3/49979600942/
    Male Endau-Rompin.
    http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_i...amajanti.v.jpg
    Male Raub, Pahang.
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-R-U0-RaKFB...0/DSC_0232.JPG
    Female Raub, Pahang. Note HW outer white marginal band suffused reddish.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OK_B6LeGH...0/DSC_5333.JPG
    Last edited by Psyche; 23-Aug-2022 at 06:44 PM.

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    2. Pyroneura natuna.

    Pyroneura natuna & helena are very similar & some authors do not separate the two.

    P. helena FW space 5 with a hyaline spot at the end of the opalescent streak.
    HW veins yellow.
    This would be somethimg like in P. latoia.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/Butterfl...oneura-latoia/

    P. natuna' FW without a hyaline spot in space 5.
    HW veins orange-yellow.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-X8pPedavnS...0/DSC_0212.JPG
    http://nlliew66butterflies.blogspot....uhstorfer.html

    Additional notes.
    P. helena range Sumatra, Malaya & Borneo.
    P. natuna Borneo (including Natuna) Malaya & S. Thailand.

    Under Eliot these would be Pyroneura natuna, not P. helena.
    Note records from Thailand state either as P. helena natuna or just P. natuna.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/92000001.html
    Last edited by Psyche; 23-Aug-2022 at 02:58 PM.

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    3. Ypthima fasciata.
    HW with two parallel dark fasciae; a third runs along the ocelli.


    4, & 5.
    Koruthaialos rubecula
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    Note long pointed palpus 3rd segment between the antennae.



    K. sindu.
    Palpi 3rd segment very short & stubby;
    FW orange outer margin notched ; band typically reaching costa.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6RkAaBJ000...alos+sindu.jpg
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91530001.html


    K. rubecula.
    Palpi 3rd segment long & pointed.
    FW orange band outer margin rugular, not notched, upper end not reaching costa.
    https://www.thaibutterflies.com/wp-c...s-rubecula.jpg
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91510001.html



    6. Idmon obliquans.
    FW orange is parallel to margin.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/91500001.html

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    7. Probably Nacaduba sanaya.

    Of ht 4line blues without prominent dark striae within the bands.
    N. hermus is recognised by the metallic scaling on the black spot.
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oYUpNLP4n...0/DSC_2636.JPG
    N. subperusia have the HW submarginal spots & the postdiscal band almost touching.
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CCzm1ZlQsQ...rusia+lysa.jpg

    N. sanaya have the HW submarginal& postdiscal spots well separated & FW band typically dislocated.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mURYzP4rh...0/DSC_4923.JPG
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XEY63bA0J...aya+elioti.jpg

    A fourth, N. pendleburyi usually have the HW submarginal & postdiscal spots widely separated & FW band intact.

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    9 & 9.
    Allotinus horsfieldi

    Two similar species have HW postdiscal spot 6 under & slightly inside of spot 7.

    A. horsfieldi have buff ground & ochreous brown markings.
    Male & femakle.
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...ermagnus-2.jpg
    https://thaibutterflies.com/wp-conte...-permagnus.jpg

    The rarer A. leogoron ahve a white groud & dark grey markings.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...555/large.jpeg



    10. The more southerly orange band species C. cameroni is now considered a separate species.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90550010.html
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/hes/90550001.html


    TL Seow: Cheers.

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    Hi Dr Seow,

    Seeking your assistance to confirm the following IDs.

    Thank you!

    1. Eurema andersonii?

    DSC_0874.jpg

    2. Mycalesis horsfieldi?

    DSC_0741.jpg

    3. Mycalesis perseus?

    DSC_0848.jpg

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    Post 8.

    1. Looks to be Eurema lacteola male.
    You may have a shot that shows the FW black border clearer.
    EUREM.png

    E. andersoni. FW one cellspot. HW postdiscal spot 7 a wavy streak.
    Inner margin of FW black border in space 2 & 3 is parallel to margin & aligned with the apex. M 1.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...drick%20Ho.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...0Khew%20sk.jpg

    E. lacteola ;FW one cellspot. HW postdiscal spot a wavy streak.
    Inner margin of FW black border in space 2 & 3 slant towards the costa. M 2.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...6/original.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...4/original.jpg

    E. hecabe ; FW two cellspots ( sometimes one is missing). HW postdiscal spot 7 a blot.
    FW black border's inner margin in space 2 & 3 slant towards costa (same as in lacteola). M 3.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rzo8wjfyC...lt_khew_01.jpg

    (Possibly E. lacteola is still extant in Singapore. male greenish yellow, female greenish white.)


    2. Mycalesis horsfieldi ;even rows of eyespots on both wings. white striae around eyespots not enhanced.
    https://www.jamiun.com/mycalesis-hor...na-bush-brown/


    3. Mycalesis perseus; HW lower four HW spots well out of line; upper five arranged in a semicircle.
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yzw2AzY2d...ush-brown1.jpg


    TL Seow: Cheers.
    PS.
    This observation is certain to be Eurema lacteola.
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/98261999
    Last edited by Psyche; 07-Sep-2022 at 08:43 PM.

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