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    Post 20.

    I think it is Ypthima baldus.
    I may be wrong.

    In the past I followed the key as stated & only IDed as baldus those with HW spot 6 much smaller than spot 5 & spots 2 & 3 large & conjoined.

    Howevr many valid examples of Y. baldus have smaller spots.
    Y. baldus baldus from India.
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...4b139708-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...0f559928-1.jpg
    https://www.ifoundbutterflies.org/si...fb2bf8e1-1.jpg

    These two are undoubted Y. horsfieldii humei.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...9989/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...7077/large.jpg


    TL Seow: Cheers.
    PS. Examples of Y. horsfieldii horsfieldii from Java.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...657/large.jpeg
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/6045975
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...3991/large.jpg

    PS 2. To meet the criteria for Y. baldus newboldi ie. large conjoined spots 2 & 3, and spot 5 much larger than spot 6, only one specimen from Yala ( lower left) will match.
    The rest should be Y. horsfieldii humei.
    This does not seem right.
    http://yutaka.it-n.jp/sat/41000010.html
    Last edited by Psyche; 19-Aug-2022 at 05:42 PM.

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    Hi Dr Seow,

    Found this Abisara sp. in my school, is it Abisara geza? The HW doesn't have the vein dislocation but the tonal spots are very rounded. Thank you!

    photo1662988653 (1).jpeg
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    Jian Kai

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    Post 22.

    Male Abisara geza.

    Male is IDed by the rounded margin at HW vein 4, while female have a pointed 'tail'.
    Both species varies in the dislocation at vein 4.

    A. saturata. Tornal black spots pointed, teardrop shape.HW discal line usually not dislocated at vein 4.

    Male ;FW with two parallel pale postdiscal bands not enhanced white & one submarginal white line.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...8-21-26-PM.jpg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...-----sunny.jpg

    Female with the inner of the two white submarginal lines merging with the white oblique band.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...8-20-35-PM.jpg
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_yzw2AzY2d...ata-female.jpg
    https://static.inaturalist.org/photo...7311/large.jpg



    A. geza; HW twin tornal dlack spots rounded. ; HW discal line usually dislocated at vein 4.

    Male with twin parallel postdiscal bands enhanced whitish, & two submarginal white lines .
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_yzw2AzY2d...kausambi-7.jpg
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_yzw2AzY2d...-kausambi4.jpg

    Female with the FW inner white line largely clear of the oblique white band. Female rare.
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...dult_CJ_01.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...387/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...819/large.jpeg
    http://www.butterflycircle.com/check...ederick_02.jpg


    TL Seow: Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 13-Sep-2022 at 06:14 AM.

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    Thank you Dr Seow!
    Jian Kai

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    Hi Dr Seow,

    Just a couple of ID requests. Thank you!

    1. Pantoporia sp. Additional iNaturalist link: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/141239367
    Pantoporia.jpeg

    2. Potanthus sp.
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    Jian Kai

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    Post 25.

    1. Probably Pantoporia sandaka female.

    You can see the abdomen is bulging & the FW foot of the postdiscal band is short.

    Although the grey band is wide suggesting P. hordonia, the orange submarginal band is enhanced at the apex as in most P. sandaka.
    It is no dofferent from this female.
    https://singapore.biodiversity.onlin...doptera-000472

    More typical Male & female P. sandaka from Singapore ie with narrow grey band.
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rzo8wjfyC...erick_02_c.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...3648/large.jpg

    Typical males & females P. hordonia P.Malaysia.
    Males
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6TIVtGI_o...u/DSC_0229.JPG
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...939/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...3531/large.jpg
    Females.
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...5450/large.JPG
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...4148/large.jpg

    You need to shoot a male from the same place.



    2. Female Potanthus serina.
    Abdominal end with a black band (less clear in the female)
    FW spot 5 smaller than spot 4; HW ground brown dusted ;band with a small spot 6 on inner edge.
    FW spot 8 may be small.
    Females .
    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/19967403
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...980/large.jpeg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...0289/large.jpg
    https://inaturalist-open-data.s3.ama...8116/large.jpg


    TL Seow; Cheers.
    Last edited by Psyche; 07-Nov-2022 at 08:53 AM.

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    Thank you Dr Seow!
    Jian Kai

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